BHU students stage protest against appointment of Muslim professor In Sanskrit faculty

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, sandeep said:

Murthi pooja is not relevant to study of language.  He teaches the language.  If you don't know, then don't make blanket claims or justifications.  

Fair enough if he such boundaries and teaches it as a language which O had already said.. But, he will be explaining Ramayana to kids as part of a course, it is not just as a language. 

[rangeelaraja]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

As if academic study of a language, is the same thing as religious practice and ceremonies of the faithful.  

 

All you are doing is making a good demonstration of your bigotry.  

 

Sanskrit is not an any other language you perennially ignorant creature. It is inextricably linked to Sanatan Dharma. ALL  ancient Sanatan Dharma scriptures and vedas including the Bhagavat Gita have originally been written in Sanskrit.  It is the language of Sanatan Dharma.

 

How outrageous is it that someone who is follower of a religion that calls all non-muslims as non-believers is appointed to teach a language that is THE backbone of Sanatan Dharma/ Hinduism.

 

Never mind, it takes a bit of intelligence to comprehend this...

 

[rangeelaraja]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

Bhai tu jaaatej taari potaani g*and barabbar maari rahyo che, hasuu to aavej ne.

@sandeep

Bhai tari G*aand ma garam karelo lambo lokhand no sadiyo je nakhyo se, ene pela kaadh etle thodi budhhi aave akal matha. 

Edited November 21, 2019 by rangeelaraja

[Alam_dar]

3 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

 If you don't want Hindus to be fundamentalists, go tell othets to not call us kaffirs

Let me make it clear that:

 

1. Islam considers Hindus to be kaffirs, while Hinduism considers Muslims to be un-pure. 

 

2. All religions consider only themselves to be true, while rest all of the religions to be false and lies. 

 

[sandeep]

2 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

Sanskrit is not an any other language you perennially ignorant creature. It is inextricably linked to Sanatan Dharma. ALL  ancient Sanatan Dharma scriptures and vedas including the Bhagavat Gita have originally been written in Sanskrit.  It is the language of Sanatan Dharma.

 

How outrageous is it that someone who is follower of a religion that calls all non-muslims as non-believers is appointed to teach a language that is THE backbone of Sanatan Dharma/ Hinduism.

 

Never mind, it takes a bit of intelligence to comprehend this...

 

Raja baby, I have forgotten more Sanskrit than you will ever learn in this lifetime.  Please do not lecture me on what Sanskrit is.  

[sandeep]

2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Fair enough if he such boundaries and teaches it as a language which O had already said.. But, he will be explaining Ramayana to kids as part of a course, it is not just as a language. 

A language is just that - language.  This is not a class on theology.  Any student and devotee of Saraswati would or ought to know - Gnaana is enriched by diversity, not by hoarding.  

 

This sort of exclusionary attitude does not light the way of learning.  

[rangeelaraja]

47 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Raja baby, I have forgotten more Sanskrit than you will ever learn in this lifetime.  Please do not lecture me on what Sanskrit is.  

Sandy Boy, are you saying Sanskrit has no religious roots ?

[sandeep]

17 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

Sandy Boy, are you saying Sanskrit has no religious roots ?

Do you even understand what nonsense you are spouting?  Silly, ignorant bigot.

Edited November 21, 2019 by sandeep

[rangeelaraja]

47 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Do you even understand what nonsense you are spouting?  Silly, ignorant bigot.

 

Mr. Utterly arrogant jhaahil. The first texts with Sanskrit language were Rigvedas - which is one of the most sacred and revered Hindu texts.

 

Are you still saying Sanskrit the language has nothing to do with Hinduism ? 

 

In which language are most of the Hindu Mantras ? Spanish ??

 

Ignorant piece of tripe

Edited November 21, 2019 by rangeelaraja

[Gollum]

9 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

@Gollum

 

Sanskrit has deep roots in vedic sanatan dharma. You want someone whose religion considers such a religion as pagan to teach sanskrit just because he has mastery over the language ?

 

This is just like allowing a devout muslim to be a caretaker of a hindu temple, including cleaning the murthis.

Almost all our languages have deep roots in dharma, most of the great Tamil and Telugu literature have our dharma as focus point. But the patrons of those languages have always been more open minded, hence they are alive while Sanskrit is dead and buried. If that prof practices bigotry in his lessons sure go ahead and fire him, but why judge before he is given the opportunity to prove himself. 

 

I know devout Muslims who take care of temples, I respect them. In Bengal lot of the Durga Puja decorations including sculptures are done by Muslims, we greatly admire them and that also brings the communities closer. 

[Gollum]

 @rangeelaraja @coffee_rules @maniac

Check this guy's family history guys, he is more Hindu than most Hindus. Runs gaushalas, composes and sings bhajans in temples, father-son both graduates in Sanskrit, father teaches young Muslim kids the language in his hometown etc. Not that all of this matters much here (legit selection process, this should never have been a controversy) but there are many Muslims willing to identify with Indic roots. This is an encouraging development, what's the point in humiliating such people? Employ him, after that if he doesn't conform to expected standards take a call. But why deny him the opportunity when he has qualified via a legit process? No need to make parallels with Wendy or Pollock, don't have to assume worst case scenarios all the time. 

Edited November 21, 2019 by Gollum

[Gollum]

Hurt by BHU students protests, Sanskrit Prof Firoz Khan leaves Varanasi

 

BHU के प्रोफेसर फिरोज खान के समर्थन में उतरे संत, विरोध को बताया गलत

 

Firoz Khan’s appointment totally by the book: BHU V-C

 

राम-कृष्ण के भजन गाते हैं फिरोज के पिता, बेटी का नाम लक्ष्मी, फिर BHU में विरोध क्यों?

[rangeelaraja]

28 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Hurt by BHU students protests, Sanskrit Prof Firoz Khan leaves Varanasi

 

BHU के प्रोफेसर फिरोज खान के समर्थन में उतरे संत, विरोध को बताया गलत

 

Firoz Khan’s appointment totally by the book: BHU V-C

 

राम-कृष्ण के भजन गाते हैं फिरोज के पिता, बेटी का नाम लक्ष्मी, फिर BHU में विरोध क्यों?

 

 

Wow..I regret the remarks I made. This guy is indeed more Hindu than Hindus. What has happened is a shame. But it is also a fact that such open minded Muslims are a very very rare breed. He seems to be the rarest of the rare.

 

 

[Mariyam]

The Hindu right seems to be an awfully confused bunch.

Some sections of the Hindu right insist that any Indian who resides in India, irrespective of his/her religious background is a 'Hindu'. Others will protest against a Muslim professor who has the right credentials to teach the Sanskrit language. 

 

Not too long ago Nawazuddin Siddiqui was barred by members of the Shiv Sena from partaking in the Ram Leela. A few years later he was approached to portray Bal Thackeray.

 

Utterly confused lot.

[LordPrabhzy]

So so sad the professor is thinking of leaving Varanasi. If the history of his family is true, he has a Muslim done so much for the Hindu religion and culture.

 

We keep saying Sanskrit is the backbone of all languages.. our own modernised youth don’t care about it but when we have a learned man who knows the language and willing to teach and promote it, a section of pointless radicals have an issue with it.

The RSS should petition the university and use influence to force them to expel these trouble makers and bring back the professor so students who are genuinely interested in learning the language are taught by someone most qualified for the job regardless of their religion. That is the definition of India. 

Edited November 21, 2019 by LordPrabhzy

[Gollum]

1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

Not too long ago Nawazuddin Siddiqui was barred by members of the Shiv Sena from partaking in the Ram Leela. 

That was pathetic as well but I think he had some sexual harassment complaint against him then so maybe benefit of doubt goes to organizers who succumbed to goons, probably they wanted to avoid controversy. I am not sure, don't remember the details, I condemn their bigotry there but this is even more inexcusable. Don't call them confused, call them b@stards. 

Edited November 21, 2019 by Gollum

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

The Hindu right seems to be an awfully confused bunch.

Some sections of the Hindu right insist that any Indian who resides in India, irrespective of his/her religious background is a 'Hindu'. Others will protest against a Muslim professor who has the right credentials to teach the Sanskrit language. 

 

Not too long ago Nawazuddin Siddiqui was barred by members of the Shiv Sena from partaking in the Ram Leela. A few years later he was approached to portray Bal Thackeray.

 

Utterly confused lot.

Same with seculars. Confused lot. They oppose the Hindutva ideology of cultural nationalism of a Hindu culture and call them equivalent to Nazis, but are now fighting for one peaceful to be a Hindu culturally.

[sergio04]

This issue is not about teaching Sanskrit, this is about dept "Dharm Vigyan", which prepares students for the role of Purohit and other important aspects of Hindu religion and also helps them evaluate importance of various processes. Sanskrit is a non issue here.

 

[Alam_dar]

10 minutes ago, sergio04 said:

This issue is not about teaching Sanskrit, this is about dept "Dharm Vigyan", which prepares students for the role of Purohit and other important aspects of Hindu religion and also helps them evaluate importance of various processes. Sanskrit is a non issue here.

It is Islamic country like Pakistan which are using the schools and colleges and universities to teach/brainwash Religion of Islam. 

 

In a Secular Country, the is no place to teach the "Dharam Vigyan" in the universities. If some one want to learn the Dharam Vigyan, then he has to go to the private religious schools. 

 

[Alam_dar]

8 hours ago, Mariyam said:

The Hindu right seems to be an awfully confused bunch.

Some sections of the Hindu right insist that any Indian who resides in India, irrespective of his/her religious background is a 'Hindu'. Others will protest against a Muslim professor who has the right credentials to teach the Sanskrit language. 

In my opinion Hindu right was never confused. 

 

But they were only using the cultural "Excuse" to impose the Hindu Dharam Values upon the others. 

 

It is not the Hindu Right which is confused, but these are the OTHERS who have been made confused by the Hindu Right by using these tactics. In other words, Hindu Right is making fool of these Others. The ultimate goal of the Right Hindu is "absolute superiority", while others will stay maximum as 2nd class citizens (if not on the level of Dalits of the past). 

 

If these Right Wing Students were making the place "Clean", then it shows what teachings of  Dharam taught them about the Others. Off course the reformists today will deny presence of any such teachings in the the Dharam (... just like the moderate Muslims who also deny presence of hate speeches in the Quran and Sunnah).