Pakistan's new 16 yr old fast bowler Naseem Shah

[putrevus]

21 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Injury can happen to anyone. Zak bowling 135 got injured on first day first session of the game doesn't mean he was useless. A 20 year quick getting injured is nothing and not happened for the first time. Cummins stayed out of the game for 7 years due to injury. Genuine quick bowling is toughest thing in cricket. Will never some genuine fast bowlers injury.

He was not injured, nobody said Naseem was injured thats why he did not bowl more than 4 overs. Anyone can get injured especially fast bowler that was not my point.Waqar was asked why he did not bowl more than 4 overs and Bowler Naseem Shah managed, not injured: Waqar Younis.

 

That is the stupidest thing I have have ever heard , you don't manage work load in a test match. Due to that extra burden other bowlers in the team are at risk of getting injured.What is the rush in getting the youngster in when he is clearly not ready to handle the workload.

 

Aussies were wrong too by giving Cummins debut so young.They and Cummins paid for it.Cummins was injured and Shah simply couldn't handle the load.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/cricket/history-says-pat-cummins-not-ready-for-test-cricket/news-story/6fd417b720fb98540f1997969521919d?sv=8a711eff7c0625352f7d6d6b2aa116ec

 

These fast bowlers are like gold, they need to be treated properly.

[the don]

He was the fastest both on average and top speed in a match that featured Starc and Cummins.
He was much quicker than Starc who is probably considered the fastest in the world atm . Expect him to bowl even quicker in the next game as he gets used to the hard grounds.
Pakistan now has 5 young 90 mph plus bowlers . Hopefully a good coach can turn 3-4 of them into world class bowlers .
Would be interesting to see between Hasnain , Naseem and Haris rauf who turns out to be the uickest in a couple of years time/
 

[rkt.india]

12 hours ago, the don said:

He was the fastest both on average and top speed in a match that featured Starc and Cummins.
He was much quicker than Starc who is probably considered the fastest in the world atm . Expect him to bowl even quicker in the next game as he gets used to the hard grounds.
Pakistan now has 5 young 90 mph plus bowlers . Hopefully a good coach can turn 3-4 of them into world class bowlers .
Would be interesting to see between Hasnain , Naseem and Haris rauf who turns out to be the uickest in a couple of years time/
 

Which 5?

[Franco Vazquez]

More people are talking about his age than bowling and that's not a good thing

[First class]

On 11/26/2019 at 12:11 AM, rkt.india said:

Which 5?

Naseem, Musa, Hussain, Harris are all 90 plus bowlers, Afridi is around 88 on average but bowls 90 plus in between.

[Suhaan]

38 minutes ago, First class said:

Naseem, Musa, Hussain, Harris are all 90 plus bowlers, Afridi is around 88 on average but bowls 90 plus in between.

I think Harris is not even playing domestics,he seems a genuine  'only'4 over spell bowler,played all his past cricket with tennis ball

[Ankit_sharma03]

42 minutes ago, First class said:

Naseem, Musa, Hussain, Harris are all 90 plus bowlers, Afridi is around 88 on average but bowls 90 plus in between.

who is harris ?

[Norman]

44 minutes ago, First class said:

Naseem, Musa, Hussain, Harris are all 90 plus bowlers, Afridi is around 88 on average but bowls 90 plus in between.

Last time I saw Hasnain bowl , he was huffing and puffing around 135 kph in the T20 series against Australia. Shaheen is not 88 either. He's more an 85-86 on a regular basis. 

 

Only genuine quick in that list is Naseem. Guy looked quite fast at the Gabba. By the way who on earth is Harris ? 

Edited November 28, 2019 by Norman

[the don]

Hasnain is very fast but his action is inconsistent. 

He has clocked upwards of 150 quite a few times already. 

151 in Psl. 155 in CPl. 153 in England. The kid can be as quick as anyone. Once he is consistent with his action he will be consistently express along with Naseem and Rauf. 

Naseem. Hasnain and rauf are all super fast. Musa is pretty quick as well. Clocked 148 kph in the t20. Akif is another one to watch. Clocked 146 kph straight out of tape ball cricket. Thst incredible for someone who had no prior hard ball experience. He should be  hitting 90 mph consistently in a year or so. 

 

 

Edited November 28, 2019 by the don

[the don]

2 hours ago, Suhaan said:

I think Harris is not even playing domestics,he seems a genuine  'only'4 over spell bowler,played all his past cricket with tennis ball

He is playing the domestic season. 

He is very skillful.

He is a complete bowler than hasnain and musa currently. 

[maniac]

35 minutes ago, the don said:

Hasnain is very fast but his action is inconsistent. 

He has clocked upwards of 150 quite a few times already. 

151 in Psl. 155 in CPl. 153 in England. The kid can be as quick as anyone. Once he is consistent with his action he will be consistently express along with Naseem and Rauf. 

Naseem. Hasnain and rauf are all super fast. Musa is pretty quick as well. Clocked 148 kph in the t20. Akif is another one to watch. Clocked 146 kph straight out of tape ball cricket. Thst incredible for someone who had no prior hard ball experience. He should be  hitting 90 mph consistently in a year or so. 

 

 

Can he last an entire test match? Especially in conditions were opposition is batting for 2 days just for fun

[the don]

4 minutes ago, maniac said:

Can he last an entire test match? Especially in conditions were opposition is batting for 2 days just for fun

Doubt any of the guys bar Musa have the fitness yet. 

All are a work in progress. 

Naseem will be fine in the long run.. 

[First class]

Harris Rauf  is more mature, physically, he is 24 , tall and strong. He is playing 4 day FC matches this season and has been doing fine. He has pace but still has to learn fast bowling skills. Forget about FC cricket, until last year he hardy played any decent club cricket 

[FischerTal]

Pakistani cricket fans be like- baaki sab gaya bhaad mein, ball phaast honi chahiye 

[Franco Vazquez]

Sad to see him turn into another age fraud.

[express bowling]

On 11/28/2019 at 7:36 PM, First class said:

Naseem, Musa, Hussain, Harris are all 90 plus bowlers

 

Naseem is super impressive both in terms of speed as well as quality. But needs more FC experience.

 

Musa ... we will see in this test.

 

Hasnain is just s T20 quick bowler as of now. 

 

Haris  ... from what I hear, he is just starting his career and has hardly played anything. Too early to judge. Moreover, he is officially 24 years old, so who knows what his actual age is.

 

 

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, Afridi is around 88 on average but bowls 90 plus in between.

 

No.

 

There have been many tests and ODIs where Afridi has hardly touched 140 kph or 87 mph.  

 

Remember him averaging around 132 mph or  82 mph in SA.

 

He can bowl quicker in some matches or some spells though ... like he did in 1 spell in the 1st test vs Australia.

 

His strengths are bounce and height.

Edited November 30, 2019 by express bowling

[Vk1]

Pak is unable to bring out young performing fast bowlers..  lot of hype with minimal results.. is Aamir the last true talented champ bowler that they had ?

[Vijy]

22 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Naseem is super impressive both in terms of speed as well as quality. But needs more FC experience.

 

Musa ... we will see in this test.

 

Hasnain is just s T20 quick bowler as of now. 

 

Haris  ... from what I hear, he is just starting his career and has hardly played anything. Too early to judge. Moreover, he is officially 24 years old, so who knows what his actual age is.

 

 

 

No.

 

There have been many tests and ODIs where Afridi has hardly touched 140 kph or 87 mph.  

 

Remember him averaging around 132 mph or  82 mph in SA.

 

He can bowl quicker in some matches or some spells though ... like he did in 1 spell in the 1st test vs Australia.

 

His strength is bounce and height.

naseem and shaheen are both impressive, albeit in different ways. mustafa.. er.. musa.. is not that impressive so far.

[First class]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

naseem and shaheen are both impressive, albeit in different ways. mustafa.. er.. musa.. is not that impressive so far.

Musa would not make it to the first eleven of my club team in Lahore. Test caps are cheap in Pakistan cricket lately. 

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, First class said:

Musa would not make it to the first eleven of my club team in Lahore. Test caps are cheap in Pakistan cricket lately. 

I heard that all one needs is to comb misbah's beard properly, sing him a lullaby (or love ballad) and thereby get a test cap. must be how ifthikhar ahmed got another cap.