Young upcoming fast bowlers thread.

[rkt.india]

Zip depends a lot on the pitches as well. Broad has done zilch in India. Anderson has been decent coz he has been able get reverse at around 85 mph.

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

Zip depends a lot on the pitches as well.

 

I try to see which pacer gets some zip on slower tracks.

[rkt.india]

12 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

I try to see which pacer gets some zip on slower tracks.

Like Firozshah kotla, haven't seen any pacers getting zip there in recent years. I am talking about that kind of a surface. Most Indian pitches are slow but there are some ultra sluggish pitches.

Edited November 26, 2019 by rkt.india

[express bowling]

KAMLESH  NAGARKOTI

 

Genuine pace ... super skiddy ... bowls great lines ... most athletic run-up I have ever seen from India.

 

 

He has the potential to run through sides in tests in Asia and in ODIs because of his super-skiddiness at 145 k+ with accuracy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.icc-cricket.com/video/613010

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.icc-cricket.com/video/596142

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2019 by express bowling

[express bowling]

7 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Like Firozshah kotla, haven't seen any pacers getting zip there in recent years. I am talking about that kind of a surface. Most Indian pitches are slow but there are some ultra sluggish pitches.

 

Zippiness of a bowler can be identified on a normal track in India these days. Neither too fast nor too sluggish.  Overall on the slower side compared to SENA tracks.

[Suhaan]

2 hours ago, maniac said:

I really fear we are going to come crashing down soon. While there are talented pacers out there there is no transition or backup plan.

 

Siraj and Saini should have been playing against Bangladesh and even WI. 
 

I guess it’s a double edged sword, I mean Ishant and Umesh deserved to get their averages up and everyone deserves a good stats padding. 
 

However Bumrah could have been rested for one test in WI and Shami could have been rested a couple of games here and there.

Absolutely,we have been crying this for so long now

[gakgupta]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

True  !

 

I too look for atleast 3 factors regarding zip and bounce.

 

1)   Zip off the deck ... for all lengths ... good, fuller, short of a length and short.

 

2)  Ability to get the ball to rear up from just short of a length.

 

3)  Having a good bouncer ... with zip, steep bounce and direction.

 

 

Bumrah and Shami have all 3 qualities.

 

Umesh has developed points 1 and 3 in 2019 ... hence this success.  Point 2 is still not there most of the time.

 

Saini has 1 and 3.  But, even within 1, he usually lacks zip off his fuller balls.

 

Prasidh has 1 and 2.  Not sure about 3.

 

Avesh has all 3 points.

 

 

 

 

 

Mavi probably has all 3 qualities mentioned in bold above.

 

Nagarkoti has 1 and 3.

 

 

 

Khaleel has points 2 and 3.  

 

Point 1 is there too but he often lacks zip off his fullish deliveries.

 

 

 

Only off his good length balls. That too, not consistently.

 

If you are talking about zip...there is none better than Siraj

[express bowling]

8 minutes ago, gakgupta said:

If you are talking about zip...there is none better than Siraj

 

When he is releasing the ball well, Siraj gets good zip at all lengths.

 

On some days, he does not release the ball that well.

 

He has a good bouncer and good short of a length rising ball too.

[gakgupta]

12 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

When he is releasing the ball well, Siraj gets good zip at all lengths.

 

On some days, he does not release the ball that well.

 

He has a good bouncer and good short of a length rising ball too.

yes...

once he gets the consistency on the zip...he becomes serious threat to many of the batting line-ups

[rkt.india]

He is 15 years 8 month old officially.

[Suhaan]

 

[Mosher]

Good yorkers by Safvan

 

 

 

[New guy]

35 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Good yorkers by Safvan

 

 

 

Cringy music and sped up camera

[rkt.india]

6 minutes ago, New guy said:

Cringy music and sped up camera

Doesn't seem speed up. 

[Vk1]

Eagerly waiting to see nagarkotti bowl 

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Doesn't seem sped up. 

 

Agree.

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

Pace aur height to hai, batting bhi kar leta hai

Need to see more of him

 

 

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, sarchasm said:

When the bowler is running towards the camera, it'd make them look faster than their true speed. Even in old videos of Thomson and Lillee this effect fools many.

 

Very true. 

 

And the Thomson, Lillee examples come to my mind as well.

[rkt.india]

 

 

[express bowling]

9 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

 

 

 

 

I have always liked Kartik Tyagi's bowling.

 

He has a nice run up ... strong action ... and bends his back substantially.