putrevus Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, sandeep said: Does Colin DeGrandhomme make the NZ team better or worse in kiwi conditions? In one post you talk about not pigeon-holing players, and in another you go on a typical rant against a guy you detest. The irony. Do Kiwis have better options than Colin DeGrandhomme .They have spinner and wk who can score big hundreds.Their captain can bowl if needed do we have such options? I don't detest Pandya, I just don't think he is good enough and he drags this test team down.India is better off batsmen in no6 than Pandya as that lengthens Indian batting line up. India top order does not bowl and if they play Saha their tails starts after no5.Pandya is a luxury for this team it does not need.Indian bowling does not need reinforcement, its batting needs reinforcement.I would rather go into a test with Vihari at no6 than Pandya at no6. Link to comment
maniac Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Colin de Grandhomme plays for his team because there are probably 150 people playing cricket in Newzealand in total( see breakdown below). False equivalence with Pandya who probably has a combination of as many specialist batsmen and bowlers ahead of him in tests. Must for LOIs though 6*15 first class teams 15 international squad 20 women 15 group-age cricketers Link to comment
sandeep Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 43 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Good u reminded me of CDGH did pretty well in this test....runs n wkts both....for all the flak he gets A test avg of 40 and bowling avg of 29 is damn good Some folks are either unable or unwilling to see potential. They'd rather stick to their pre-conceived notions of armchair expertise, even when they are bizarrely self-contradictory. Link to comment
sandeep Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 47 minutes ago, zen said: Pandya won us a test in Eng! And also sent a certain Professor into vanvaas (exile). Maybe he's resting in a hammock somewhere! Ankit_sharma03 and zen 1 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, maniac said: Colin de Grandhomme plays for his team because there are probably 150 people playing cricket in Newzealand in total( see breakdown below). No he plays coz every team needs a 5th bowling option without compromising on batting, just a stupid word to throw around- bits n pieces but take teams planning and it plays a huge role. As i said cricket aint played on paper Aus has marcus n head....before they had marsh WI- holder Pak also sohail n ifthikar Eng- stokes, curren Nz- CDGH Living in an old notion that some cricketer can work and some will never....CDGH now has better bowling n batting avg then world best all rounder stokes in test cricket for all the fun u made of him. And ur saying he plays coz of lack of options. u think NZ wnt even have a single batsman in domestic to play at 6 . Matalab team balance gaya tel lene Edited November 26, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
maniac Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: No he plays coz every team needs a 5th bowling option without compromising on batting, just a stupid word to throw around- bits n pieces but take teams planning and it plays a huge role. As i said cricket aint played on paper Aus has marcus n head....before they had marsh WI- holder Pak also sohail n ifthikar Eng- stokes, curren Nz- CDGH Living in an old notion that some cricketer can work and some will never....CDGH now has better bowling n batting avg then world best all rounder stokes in test cricket for all the fun u made of him. And ur saying he plays coz of lack of options. u think NZ wnt even have a single batsman in domestic to play at 6 . Matalab team balance gaya tel lene Exactly Mitch Marsh was a flop and Proper batsmen with some ability to roll arm over like Lanschanchwmehrne and Head are successful. Thanks for making my point Edited November 26, 2019 by maniac putrevus 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, maniac said: Exactly Mitch Marsh was a flop and Proper batsmen with some ability to roll arm over like Lanschanchwmehrne and Head are successful. Thanks for making my point yet aus had to play him for 32 test due to need till they found 2 players who cud roll over their arm....india have only found 1 in vihari two atleast can make up more overs then one part timer And with avg of 40 with bat and 29 with bowl CDGH isnt successful, holder isnt successful ?? Hasnt specialist batsman failed that one all rounder failure is seen big but 10 specliast failures are ignored Edited November 26, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
velu Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 yuzi chahal Limitations:- Cant bat . Cant Field. Cant bowl. Positives:- His embarrassed smile after getting hit for a six will melt even the hardest stones AuxiliA 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, velu said: yuzi chahal Limitations:- Cant bat . Cant Field. Cant bowl. Positives:- His embarrassed smile after getting hit for a six will melt even the hardest stones @Stan AF bro do your thing Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Yeah right Pandya won the test , if Pandya did not play and guy like Vihari played, those five wickets he took would have been taken by Indian fast bowlers like they did in many tests. But those close losses could have turned into wins if guy like Vihari was playing instead of Pandya.This Indian team needs six batsmen away in SENA more than they need any bits and pieces player. Stuart Binny won India an odi match with best figures does it make Binny a must for odis and Clarke has 6fer would Australia kept him in test team if stunk with bat. This teams needs extra batsmen more than they need a guy like Pandya in test matches.Irony is most people who want Pandya in the team are the same ones who want Vihari in the team for home season. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, putrevus said: Yeah right Pandya won the test , if Pandya did not play and guy like Vihari played, those five wickets he took would have been taken by Indian fast bowlers like they did in many tests. He took 5 wkts in a span of 5-6 overs which is why game turned so drastically surely other wud have taken but they didnt at that speed which was reality . Pandya came to bowl in 20th and destroyed opp in span of 5 overs....if those bowlers had to they wud have done that till 20th over he came n did it in 5 overs Quote But those close losses could have turned into wins if guy like Vihari was playing instead of Pandya.This Indian team needs six batsmen away in SENA more than they need any bits and pieces player. So why did we loose last test where vihari played??? Vihari didnt score a single 50 in Aus where we won Quote Stuart Binny won India an odi match with best figures does it make Binny a must for odis and Clarke has 6fer would Australia kept him in test team if stunk with bat. Binny won a damp pitch where both team were struggling to even score 100 runs Clarke got on a rank turner where both teams were struggling In this game our team made 300+ runs in both innings , pandya made runs . Clearly ur lack of understanding of conditions is bizarre comparing a good pitch to 2 unplayable ones Quote This teams needs extra batsmen more than they need a guy like Pandya in test matches.Irony is most people who want Pandya in the team are the same ones who want Vihari in the team for home season. where is it written that if u want pandya u cant vihari I think most of us wud be ok if pandya doesnt play in India coz in India jadeja n ashwin become full all rounder and fats bowler get much rest coz spinner bowl max over unlike overseas where its exact opp. Vihari bowling is much more valuable in India u clearly dont understand the diff between condition Edited November 26, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: He took 5 wkts in a span of 5-6 overs which is why game turned so drastically surely other wud have taken but they didnt at that speed which was reality . Pandya came to bowl in 20th and destroyed opp in span of 5 overs....if those bowlers had to they wud have done that till 20th over he came n did it in 5 overs So why did we loose last test where vihari played??? Vihari didnt score a single 50 in Aus where we won Binny won a damp pitch where both team were struggling to even score 100 runs Clarke got on a rank turner where both teams were struggling In this game our team made 300+ runs in both innings , pandya made runs . Clearly ur lack of understanding of conditions is bizarre comparing a good pitch to 2 unplayable ones where is it written that if u want pandya u cant vihari I think most of us wud be ok if pandya doesnt play in India coz in India jadeja n ashwin become full all rounder and fats bowler get much rest coz spinner bowl max over unlike overseas where its exact opp. Vihari bowling is much more valuable in India u clearly dont understand the diff between condition Don't want to repeat myself . Link to comment
zen Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 23 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: He took 5 wkts in a span of 5-6 overs which is why game turned so drastically surely other wud have taken but they didnt at that speed which was reality . Pandya came to bowl in 20th and destroyed opp in span of 5 overs....if those bowlers had to they wud have done that till 20th over he came n did it in 5 overs Whenever Pandya has got the relatively hard ball, he has done well Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
velu Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 53 minutes ago, maniac said: @Stan AF bro do your thing he declared jihad against me .. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, velu said: yuzi chahal Cant bowl. ODI- 50 matches 85 wkts, avg of 26 In t20 avg of 21 , 34 games 50 wkts and this guy cant bowl Link to comment
velu Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: ODI- 50 matches 85 wkts, avg of 26 In t20 avg of 21 , 34 games 50 wkts and this guy cant bowl Ryan ten Doeschate - batting average 67 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, velu said: Ryan ten Doeschate - batting average 67 he was a good batsman problem was his team wasnt good enough to play which wasnt his fault. That guy his value around world in franchise cricket Link to comment
velu Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: he was a good batsman problem was his team wasnt good enough to play which wasnt his fault. That guy his value around world in franchise cricket arrey bhai .. meant that stats are misleading .. yuzi is a mental midget .. if i am not wrong you yourself agreed and then complimented him saying that he is still a good bowler to clean up the tail Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, velu said: arrey bhai .. meant that stats are misleading .. yuzi is a mental midget .. if i am not wrong you yourself agreed and then complimented him saying that he is still a good bowler to clean up the tail i dnt call anyone mental midget....its unfair . I use to not rate him highly but he has improved a lot and has done really well. Despite lacking other skill and having competition from so many leggie he still has been able to keep his place Link to comment
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