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1 hour ago, JourneyMan said:

Sanders is probably the only candidate who stands a realistic chance vs Trump. I'm curious to see who he picks as running mate. 

 

I can't see any other jokestars from the left taking on the orange man. Yang was an exception but he dropped out since he didn't have enough followers. 

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On 2/13/2020 at 10:47 PM, coffee_rules said:

When Bernie’s on ticket all of Hindus will vote for Trump, he’s an untouchable 

Don't count on it.  Fear of the radical Christian right may transcend fear of paying 15% more tax.  Plus the software types take pride in their "progressivism."  Things I've heard from progressive desis:

 

  • I support gay rights (but my child can never be "abnormal" like that).
  • White people are racist (but I will not put my child in School X because there are too many black/Hispanic kids)
  • White people are so ignorant and disrespectful of our culture (what is there in their culture? Ours is so ancient.)
  • Bernie Sanders speaks for common men like me and will take on corporations! (oh crap, I left my iPhone XII in the Mercedes, I need it to sell 5000 Amazon shares now ... doh din mein dugna!)
  • Chal ... woh organic-waala Scotch pilaa.

... okay, I made up the last one :-).

 

 

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1 hour ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said:

Don't count on it.  Fear of the radical Christian right may transcend fear of paying 15% more tax.  Plus the software types take pride in their "progressivism."  Things I've heard from progressive desis:

 

  • I support gay rights (but my child can never be "abnormal" like that).
  • White people are racist (but I will not put my child in School X because there are too many black/Hispanic kids)
  • White people are so ignorant and disrespectful of our culture (what is there in their culture? Ours is so ancient.)
  • Bernie Sanders speaks for common men like me and will take on corporations! (oh crap, I left my iPhone XII in the Mercedes, I need it to sell 5000 Amazon shares now ... doh din mein dugna!)
  • Chal ... woh organic-waala Scotch pilaa.

... okay, I made up the last one :-).

 

 

Yes, you are right , OCI Hindus are as dumb as you have highlighted. I see them spout the same talking points as you listed

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2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Yes, you are right , OCI Hindus are as dumb as you have highlighted. I see them spout the same talking points as you listed

BTW, my vote goes to Amy Klobuchar.  Sensible, dignified, understated, has middle-of-the-road pragmatic policies, has science-based views on things I know a little about (food and ag policy), accomplished Senator.  A boring policy-nerd most of the time, but has been abrasive when necessary in the debates.  

 

Steady, pragmatic, scientific approach is what the nation needs.  We can do with less rhetoric, more unity.  Glad to see her hanging on.   

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2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Yes, you are right , OCI Hindus are as dumb as you have highlighted. I see them spout the same talking points as you listed

Mod Bhakts will all vote for Trump. If the economy stays strong with a surging stock market and low unemployment, no one will be able to displace Trump. If Congress could not impeach him, what’s a few Democratic candidates? As much I despise him (certainly not vote for him), I have to give him props for creating an atmosphere of fear among Republican politicians and a rabid fan base.

 

However, of all the candidates, Bernie will give him the most competition since he is also running on a populist platform and has a rabid fan base.

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4 hours ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said:

Don't count on it.  Fear of the radical Christian right may transcend fear of paying 15% more tax.  Plus the software types take pride in their "progressivism."  Things I've heard from progressive desis:

 

  • I support gay rights (but my child can never be "abnormal" like that).
  • White people are racist (but I will not put my child in School X because there are too many black/Hispanic kids)
  • White people are so ignorant and disrespectful of our culture (what is there in their culture? Ours is so ancient.)
  • Bernie Sanders speaks for common men like me and will take on corporations! (oh crap, I left my iPhone XII in the Mercedes, I need it to sell 5000 Amazon shares now ... doh din mein dugna!)
  • Chal ... woh organic-waala Scotch pilaa.

... okay, I made up the last one :-).

 

 

POTW

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1 hour ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said:

BTW, my vote goes to Amy Klobuchar.  Sensible, dignified, understated, has middle-of-the-road pragmatic policies, has science-based views on things I know a little about (food and ag policy), accomplished Senator.  A boring policy-nerd most of the time, but has been abrasive when necessary in the debates.  

 

Steady, pragmatic, scientific approach is what the nation needs.  We can do with less rhetoric, more unity.  Glad to see her hanging on.   

You don’t understand that the Democratic Party is at a cross-roads. The progressive wing won’t let centrist candidates on the ballot and if they are nominated, they will just stay at home or even worse, they will vote for trump to spite the democratic establishment. 

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2 hours ago, FischerTal said:

You don’t understand that the Democratic Party is at a cross-roads. The progressive wing won’t let centrist candidates on the ballot and if they are nominated, they will just stay at home or even worse, they will vote for trump to spite the democratic establishment. 

Very true. And then the Dems wonder why they are in such disarray. Unfortunately there is no room for moderation on either side.  

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On 2/16/2020 at 4:02 AM, JourneyMan said:

Doubt it, their politics are too different. 

Democratic party thrives on gay community support, that probably is their main agenda, everything else is secondary. How can a young man with no experience, other than a not very successful mayor of a village is so high in their polls. 

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10 hours ago, First class said:

Democratic party thrives on gay community support, that probably is their main agenda, everything else is secondary. How can a young man with no experience, other than a not very successful mayor of a village is so high in their polls. 

Sanders is running for universal healthcare, cancellation of student loans, establishing a minimum wage and introducing a wealth tax.

 

Buttigieg stands for none of these. He is a centrist while Sanders is staunchly to the left and therefore even further away from Buttigieg than the average Republican. 

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On 2/15/2020 at 11:51 AM, Param Mastishk Pheeka said:

Don't count on it.  Fear of the radical Christian right may transcend fear of paying 15% more tax.  Plus the software types take pride in their "progressivism."  Things I've heard from progressive desis:

 

  • I support gay rights (but my child can never be "abnormal" like that).
  • White people are racist (but I will not put my child in School X because there are too many black/Hispanic kids)
  • White people are so ignorant and disrespectful of our culture (what is there in their culture? Ours is so ancient.)
  • Bernie Sanders speaks for common men like me and will take on corporations! (oh crap, I left my iPhone XII in the Mercedes, I need it to sell 5000 Amazon shares now ... doh din mein dugna!)
  • Chal ... woh organic-waala Scotch pilaa.

... okay, I made up the last one :-).

 

 

LOL, brown people are some of the worst racist c*nts I have encountered in life. Talks as if they are the victim in each and every scenerio, behind closed doors, comes out all the white people this, black people that. This village this, that village that ... bunch of two face c*nts

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7 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Buhuhahahahhahahahahahah 

Some crazies have infiltrated the "woko haram" - that Somali brother-marrying chick, this Pak-American dude, and a few others.  Like anything else, their moment isn't going to last in the hyper-sped up social media cycle.  There is no need to over-react or get overly concerned.  Extremists on either side of the spectrum may get their temporary moment in the sun, but are bound to self-destruct - its inevitable. 

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37 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Some crazies have infiltrated the "woko haram" - that Somali brother-marrying chick, this Pak-American dude, and a few others.  Like anything else, their moment isn't going to last in the hyper-sped up social media cycle.  There is no need to over-react or get overly concerned.  Extremists on either side of the spectrum may get their temporary moment in the sun, but are bound to self-destruct - its inevitable. 

Yeah the somali looking chick and the cute latina chik lulz us has its own share ..woko haram hehe nice name

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1 hour ago, sandeep said:

Some crazies have infiltrated the "woko haram" - that Somali brother-marrying chick, this Pak-American dude, and a few others.  Like anything else, their moment isn't going to last in the hyper-sped up social media cycle.  There is no need to over-react or get overly concerned.  Extremists on either side of the spectrum may get their temporary moment in the sun, but are bound to self-destruct - its inevitable. 

:-)!!  But, the extremist on the other side - Naarangi babu - had 4 years and likely to have 4 more.      

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16 minutes ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said:

:-)!!  But, the extremist on the other side - Naarangi babu - had 4 years and likely to have 4 more.      

If Dubya got 4 more years due to external threat, this moron^1000 could well get the same.  


But please, don't make me think of that right now.  I'm depressed enough as it is.

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4 minutes ago, sandeep said:

If Dubya got 4 more years due to external threat, this moron^1000 could well get the same.  


But please, don't make me think of that right now.  I'm depressed enough as it is.

I have seen TRUMP Jr 2024 bumper stickers.  8 yrs of Naarangi, 8 yrs of Junior, 8 yrs of Sister Ivanka, and then add in the possibility of Jared K, and I have no hope of seeing sanity in the USA in my lifetime.  How's that for depressing?

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5 minutes ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said:

I have seen TRUMP Jr 2024 bumper stickers.  8 yrs of Naarangi, 8 yrs of Junior, 8 yrs of Sister Ivanka, and then add in the possibility of Jared K, and I have no hope of seeing sanity in the USA in my lifetime.  How's that for depressing?

Dynasty politics mein aapka swagat hai.

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1 hour ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said:

I have seen TRUMP Jr 2024 bumper stickers.  8 yrs of Naarangi, 8 yrs of Junior, 8 yrs of Sister Ivanka, and then add in the possibility of Jared K, and I have no hope of seeing sanity in the USA in my lifetime.  How's that for depressing?

Not going to happen, no party has held the exec more than 2 terms since 1933 or WWII, Bush Sr after REagan being exception. Also Trump Jr, IvNka are not electable.  

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On 2/18/2020 at 5:34 PM, Zero_Unit said:

LOL, brown people are some of the worst racist c*nts I have encountered in life. Talks as if they are the victim in each and every scenerio, behind closed doors, comes out all the white people this, black people that. This village this, that village that ... bunch of two face c*nts

 

On 2/15/2020 at 11:51 AM, Param Mastishk Pheeka said:

Don't count on it.  Fear of the radical Christian right may transcend fear of paying 15% more tax.  Plus the software types take pride in their "progressivism."  Things I've heard from progressive desis:

 

  • I support gay rights (but my child can never be "abnormal" like that).
  • White people are racist (but I will not put my child in School X because there are too many black/Hispanic kids)
  • White people are so ignorant and disrespectful of our culture (what is there in their culture? Ours is so ancient.)
  • Bernie Sanders speaks for common men like me and will take on corporations! (oh crap, I left my iPhone XII in the Mercedes, I need it to sell 5000 Amazon shares now ... doh din mein dugna!)
  • Chal ... woh organic-waala Scotch pilaa.

... okay, I made up the last one :-).

 

 

 

Are these FOBs or ABCDs?

 

If they're FOBs, I wouldn't be so critical, they're just trying to "fit in". (and failing miserably)

 

From what i have seen, most ABCDs are apolitical, and the ones that vote usually vote democrat.

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Anyone knows Biden's record on padosi land ? Although I found Obama presidency as reasonable all things considered with pluses & minuses, the fact that his admin used to give a billion plus a year as assistance to padosiland was quite a sore point from an Indian pov. 

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1 hour ago, Clarke said:

Anyone knows Biden's record on padosi land ? Although I found Obama presidency as reasonable all things considered with pluses & minuses, the fact that his admin used to give a billion plus a year as assistance to padosiland was quite a sore point from an Indian pov. 

Nobody is as good as Trump is regarding differential treatment to Pak vs India. He is blunt with Pak and has cut a lot of cream. Plus the posturing with India/Modi will lead to something substantial in the 2nd term. Biden at the best will be Obama 2.0. More carrots to Pak and indifference to India. Obama was a hit in India and for liberals, hailed as a win for liberalism by all libtards.

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2013 article

Why India Loves Joe Biden

Biden will be received warmly in Delhi next week, given his long-standing support for India on critical issues.

 
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Last month’s U.S.-India strategic dialogue in New Delhi was widely viewed as a failure. As Ambassador T.P. Sreenivasan, a former Indian diplomat, put it, “The India-US Strategic dialogue, by all accounts, accomplished little…. Both sides said in private that the dialogue made no difference to the relationship, which had reached a plateau, with no prospects for breaking news.”

In retrospective, one of the most important outcomes of the strategic dialogue may have been Secretary of State John Kerry announcing that Vice President Joseph Biden would be visiting India in July, ahead of Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s expected visit to Washington this fall.

Biden and his wife, Jill Biden, will arrive in Delhi on Monday and stay in the country through Thursday, before heading off to Singapore. In India, the couple will meet with officials from both the government and opposition party, and will visit Mumbai where the vice president is expected to deliver a speech to the Bombay Stock Exchange. Overall, the trip is expected to focus heavily on increasing economic ties with India, with energy and climate, defense, and regional issues also expected to be on the agenda.

In a background briefing on the trip today, a White House official also said Vice President Biden will “set out an ambitious vision for the U.S.-India relationship, looking not just at the months ahead or the years ahead, but the decades ahead.”

If all this sounds a lot more expansive than Kerry’s visit to Delhi last month, that’s because it is. And for good reason: whereas India remains suspicious of Kerry, viewing him as a stooge for Pakistan, Delhi loves Joe Biden. After Obama selected Biden as his running mate in 2008, some Indian newspapers ran the story under the headline “Obama picks India friend Biden as running mate.”

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And indeed what a friend Biden has been to India, particularly during hard times on critical issues, first and foremost, nuclear issues.

Nothing better encapsulates this than then Senator Biden’s reaction to India’s nuclear tests in May 1998. Immediately after the nuclear tests, even before Pakistan had responded with its own, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee—of which Biden was then the ranking member—held a hearing on Delhi’s decision.

The hearing not surprising served as a forum for Senator after Senator to disparage India for its decision to test nuclear weapons. Biden was not immune to this entirely, stating the seriousness of the situation and opining that the “tests are sure to alter fundamentally the U.S.-India  relationship which had begun to blossom in recent years after a lengthy  chill.”

Yet a few paragraphs into his opening statement, Biden began to signal his concern was more about avoiding a complete souring of U.S.-India relations when he characterized the decision to test nukes as one made by “a weak, minority government in India [which] has thrown good international citizenship by the wayside for the narrow calculations of domestic political advantage.”

More astonishing, he later added:

“Mr. Chairman, in spite of our justifiable outrage at this moment, I think it is important to keep in mind our long-term strategic interests. We also need to make distinctions. Despite its grave miscalculation this week, India is not a rogue state. It is not a Libya, a North Korea, or an Iraq. It is the world's largest democracy and it is a country with which we share much in common. It is a country with which we should have good relations. But these tests will make a better relationship much more difficult. India should pay a steep price for its irresponsible acts, lest we encourage others to follow the Indian example. But a nation of India's size, importance, and stature cannot be isolated forever. We will have to engage India. India can hasten that, but only if it undoes some of the damage it has done. It can do that by signing the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty and the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty immediately and without conditions.”

It’s hard to understate how much this differed with the prevailing sentiment in the DC at the time. While many were calling for draconian sanctions against India as a way to pressure it to give up its nuclear arsenal, Biden was effectively calling for the U.S. to immediately legitimize the arsenal.

And he wasn’t shy in defending his view. In July 1998, a mere two months after the tests, Senator Biden gave a speech to the Carnegie Endowment's Non-Proliferation Project in which he called on President Clinton to abandon his “one-size-fits-all” non-proliferation policy. Instead, Biden suggested, the administration should negotiate packages with India and Pakistan in which the countries agreed to join various non-proliferation schemes (while keeping their nuclear weapons) and in return the U.S. would lift its sanctions against them. During the speech Biden also called on the U.S. to end its “benign neglect” of South Asia.

 

Biden was nothing if not persistent. In August 2001, for instance, Senator Biden—now chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee—wrote a letter to President George W. Bush calling on the new administration to unilaterally drop U.S. sanctions against India.

“Today, the economic sanctions against India serve to stigmatize rather than stabilize,'' Biden wrote, adding that he was hopeful that if the U.S. lifted the sanctions: “India will respond with reciprocal acts of goodwill in nonproliferation and other arenas.” He also offered to work closely with President Bush to help advance U.S.-India ties.

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Although the 9/11 terrorist attacks the following month would temporarily refocus U.S. attention away from India, ultimately Biden would be able to make good on his promise to help. Specifically, when President Bush and Prime Minister Singh began the long, arduous task of concluding a civilian nuclear deal, Senator Biden served as a critical ally in the Senate, and even traveled to India (with then-Senators Chuck Hagel and John Kerry) in earlier 2008, before the U.S. Congress had put its stamp of approval on the deal. At each and every juncture, then, Biden was an unabashed proponent of the deal, and certainly was critical to its success.  

Thus, from days after India’s nuclear test to the civilian deal nearly a decade later, Biden was intimately involved in bringing Delhi into the nuclear fold. And while most observers saw Bush’s handling of the U.S.-India relationship as one of his crowning foreign policy achievements, Biden criticized the outgoing administration for not doing enough to engage India. Then, as vice president-elect, he traveled to Pakistan to demand that it help India bring the culprits to justice, and was one of the first U.S. officials to greet Prime Minister Singh when he arrived in Washington in the fall of 2009.

While this will be Biden first trip to India as vice president, rest assured he’ll be well received, and likely to advance U.S.-India relations in important ways.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Manny_Pacquiao said:

 

 

Are these FOBs or ABCDs?

 

If they're FOBs, I wouldn't be so critical, they're just trying to "fit in". (and failing miserably)

 

From what i have seen, most ABCDs are apolitical, and the ones that vote usually vote democrat.

Both parties. Fobs are mostly like that but there are plenty of ABCD's aswell with similar mentality. PLENTY!

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21 hours ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said:

My life is like a Dynasty sandwich:

 

Early life in India - Indira Rajiv

In the middle - PVNR (who I think was a good PM), then Clinton, GWB, Obama

My late life - Don Don Jr Ivanka Jared? Ugh!!

 

 

GWB fits in  like a nice treat in the middle, kind of  like an extra helping in your dynasty sandwich

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7 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Nobody is as good as Trump is regarding differential treatment to Pak vs India. He is blunt with Pak and has cut a lot of cream. Plus the posturing with India/Modi will lead to something substantial in the 2nd term. Biden at the best will be Obama 2.0. More carrots to Pak and indifference to India. Obama was a hit in India and for liberals, hailed as a win for liberalism by all libtards.

Well the gravy train certainly should be ruled out with US withdrawal from Afghanistan. Both GWB Obama took a safer approach with Pak rather than bully them. I can't say what Trump would have done but decisions like moving out of the Paris climate agreement should be a deal breaker even for the padosi hating Indians in terms of supporting Trump.

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