Saha 0 Pant 7, who should play?

[Gollum]

Saha hasn't played since BD series, that is reason enough to play Pant ahead. 

 

Pant isn't a poor keeper like is being portrayed by some. Sure he can and must improve but some are giving the impression that he is Parthiv 2.0. Not at all the case, just because Saha is a wonderful glovesman, that shouldn't cloud our judgement about the southpaw. 

Edited February 15, 2020 by Gollum

[New guy]

So Saha also kept in the practice match. Which means it's still 50 50

[Cricket_Fan]

2 hours ago, New guy said:

Yes Saha is maybe our best all time keeper. Yet we preferred MSD over him in tests. In SENA we need the extra batting help, particularly because they often prefer to play with 5 bowlers 

Not exactly. Aussies preferred Pain over Wade even though he was an inferior batsman but better keeper.In Tests, you need a specialist keeper.

[vishalvirsingh]

11 hours ago, Vilander said:

guys as long as Saha can keep he should play. The guy attempts catches and reaches those that other international level keepers just look at slips attempting, its not even a contest. 

yep Saha is definitely a way better keeper than MSD too..and lets be true , though we expect rishabh to be a game changer in batting and all that big talk..but his performance hardly backs him. secondly i think even samson is a better keeper than rishabh and may be bharat could also keep better.

 

only keeper who is as good as rishabh is KL RAHUL where as KL is a much better batsman. I dont see bright days for Rishabh unless he improves his BATTING and Keeping. 

he goes for his shots , some times from the first ball, which is not a wise thing to do.

[Cricket_Fan]

27 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

Wasn't the same with Paine. He was entrusted with captaincy after that Cape Town debacle. CA trusted him as the man who could rebuild the faith of the fans in the team. Plus, Wade was pretty dire himself with the bat till last season when he cashed it big time. It wasn't his keeping skills alone that kept him ahead of Wade.

Pain was selected the keeper even before the ball tampering incident happened. And his batting stats were worse than the worst of Wade. His keeping skills is what kept him in the team.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Pant isnt parthiv patel as ppl are making out to be. 

Dhoni wasnt great with stumps when he started , pant is a lil better then dhoni was at start as keeper 

 

And in the end most importantly if u wanna win the games u need match winners and pant is a match winner on his day . If u worry about dropping catches lets start with the captain himself who drops a lot fo em 

[Rasgulla]

6 hours ago, New guy said:

Laxman has 0 100s in his entire career in england. Sehwag, dravid hhave 1 100 in Australia in their entire career. Of course they never played on pattas in SENA despite playing for so long

 

The excuses seem more and more pathetic 

Sachin has 0 at lords. Your excuses seems even more pathetic 

[NameGoesHere]

3 hours ago, New guy said:

Yes Saha is maybe our best all time keeper. Yet we preferred MSD over him in tests. In SENA we need the extra batting help, particularly because they often prefer to play with 5 bowlers 

Yeah good point.  Respect your opinion but disagree.  
Let’s now see what Bewda and kaptaan decide.  

[NameGoesHere]

23 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

who ever keeps tomm when NZ-XI will bat will be the answer 

Basis this current game with their NZ A, and how the wicket seems to have behaved, that seems about right.  

[diehardpacer]

I think Pant had taken around 18 catches in Aus series which is a record.Pants only problems overseas were the Bumrah's balls coming at an angle & swinging heavily.Yes,Pant has problems in India against spinners.But Dhoni was no where near Pant's levels.In all overseas tours,he rarely used to dive for catches.

Pant should be given chances overseas atleast .

[Cricket_Fan]

7 hours ago, sarchasm said:

I am aware of that. The point is, if Cape Town had not happened, then it's likely Wade would have kept wickets for Aus during the Ashes if not the home series against us. Besides, both of them are mid 30s journeymen unlike Pant who is in a different space and worth investing and nurturing. The whole comparison with Paine/Wade situation is a nonstarter.

Lol. Why would they change to Wade after the Capetown series if they didnt see him fit for the Test series against SA, one of their toughest ever? And their age is irrelevant as the discussion is about better keeping vs batting. No team in the world would go for an inferior keeper for his batting in an important Test series. And Pant’s batting isn’t that great against swing and seam bowling either. He struggled in England when the ball moved and his century came on a flat road where every other struggling batsman like Cook and Rahul made merry.

we need Saha’s superior keeping to get into the Test Championship finals. There is enough time after that to nurture Pant or any other keeper.

Edited February 15, 2020 by Cricket_Fan

[Cricket_Fan]

7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Pant isnt parthiv patel as ppl are making out to be. 

Dhoni wasnt great with stumps when he started , pant is a lil better then dhoni was at start as keeper 

 

And in the end most importantly if u wanna win the games u need match winners and pant is a match winner on his day . If u worry about dropping catches lets start with the captain himself who drops a lot fo em 

How many international  matches did he win by his performance yet? 

[Ankit_sharma03]

13 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

How many international  matches did he win by his performance yet? 

He hasnt even played enough games till now and one player alone cant win u games.....he can put u in winning positions. 

Dont expect results so soon....player hai maggi nahin. 

Do u doubt his match winning abilities ?

[Cricket_Fan]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

He hasnt even played enough games till now and one player alone cant win u games.....he can put u in winning positions. 

Dont expect results so soon....player hai maggi nahin. 

Do u doubt his match winning abilities ?

Yes. I don’t buy into the hype.

Edited February 15, 2020 by Cricket_Fan

[Ankit_sharma03]

24 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

Yes. I don’t buy into the hype.

Hmmm will remeber to tag u when he does it 

[vvvslaxman]

Saha is definitely a better keeper. Is he a massive upgrade over Pant? That is debatable. You probably will see more byes with Pant. But Saha's batting doesn't inspire any confidence. Atleast pant can crack a 50 when things can go his way. 

[zen]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Issue is that when Saha was new, some of these guys would have been like "why Saha" .... same process is repeated with every new youngster (unless the youngster is someone like a Tendulkar) .... anytime, the status-quo is challenged, some folks feel uncomfortable 

Edited February 15, 2020 by zen

[Ankit_sharma03]

18 minutes ago, zen said:

Issue is that when Saha was new, some of these guys would have been like "why Saha" .... same process is repeated with every new youngster (unless the youngster is someone like a Tendulkar) .... anytime, the status-quo is challenged, some folks feel uncomfortable 

play him 2 games then also they ll say "why Saha" 

[Straight Drive]

Saha is undobtdely best option if we are looking just keeping quality. Whereas if team management wants the better batsman, undoubtedly Pant is the better.

[Gollum]

Unfair to target Pant again and again, is there something we are missing? Right selection today. Saha will always be a keeping great and role model in his own right, but horses for courses here. 

 

Edited February 21, 2020 by Gollum