Muloghonto Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: People said the same things about Modi back in 2013. If India has to survive as a Hindu rashtra, people like Yogi need to be inspired. 50 minutes ago, mishra said: After VP Singh experience, I always worry about someone with surname "Singh" sitting as top seat of India. I honestly dont want any so called "kshatriya" to take top position in Democracy as I believe their inherent upbringing and dharma of being a ruler and ambition to power at any cost will cloud their judgement. My view is different. My view is, road to Dilli goes through UP and yogi is the wall of UP. if UP isn't a safe bet for bjp even after 2 terms of yogi, it means UP won't be safe for bjp in another generation and thus yogi is vital to retain UP. NO UP = coalition govt of power compromise and no major hinduvta item moves forward. Bjp can survive at centre without yogi but bjp won't survive without UP. And I don't think yogi can be replaced in UP. So yogi must remain in UP is my view. ravishingravi, singhvivek141, mishra and 1 other 4
coffee_rules Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 hours ago, Muloghonto said: My view is different. My view is, road to Dilli goes through UP and yogi is the wall of UP. if UP isn't a safe bet for bjp even after 2 terms of yogi, it means UP won't be safe for bjp in another generation and thus yogi is vital to retain UP. NO UP = coalition govt of power compromise and no major hinduvta item moves forward. Bjp can survive at centre without yogi but bjp won't survive without UP. And I don't think yogi can be replaced in UP. So yogi must remain in UP is my view. Never thought it that way, Yes, we need UP , but might miss losing India without a leader like Modi following him in 2029. That's like missing the forest for the trees. Hopefully, with de-limitation of LS seats, we might be less dependent on big states like UP and other states like TN/WB having less in comparison.
Muloghonto Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Never thought it that way, Yes, we need UP , but might miss losing India without a leader like Modi following him in 2029. That's like missing the forest for the trees. Hopefully, with de-limitation of LS seats, we might be less dependent on big states like UP and other states like TN/WB having less in comparison. Well I dunno what delimitation will do, so my pov is with current LS numbers. UP is the beating heart of India and it's so huge that it'd be world's 4th or 5th most populous nation if it were a country. UP is also ram janambhoomi and krishn janambhumi and the core of Hinduism territorial as Vaishnav is the most expansionist of the current Hindu denominations. So UP isn't just an electoral must, it's also a civilizational must to turn it into a Hinduvta bastion like Gujarat. Now as a overseas bong I am obviously not well familiar with UP politics but it seems to me the bjp option in UP is 'yogi or bust'. So yogi staying in UP is a must. I believe if worst comes to worst, india is better off with a Modi light at centre with Aditya Nath in UP than Aditya nath at center and an adityanath lite in UP. I may be wrong but it's just my two cents. AuxiliA, singhvivek141 and ravishingravi 1 2
singhvivek141 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 12 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Well I dunno what delimitation will do, so my pov is with current LS numbers. UP is the beating heart of India and it's so huge that it'd be world's 4th or 5th most populous nation if it were a country. UP is also ram janambhoomi and krishn janambhumi and the core of Hinduism territorial as Vaishnav is the most expansionist of the current Hindu denominations. So UP isn't just an electoral must, it's also a civilizational must to turn it into a Hinduvta bastion like Gujarat. Now as a overseas bong I am obviously not well familiar with UP politics but it seems to me the bjp option in UP is 'yogi or bust'. So yogi staying in UP is a must. I believe if worst comes to worst, india is better off with a Modi light at centre with Aditya Nath in UP than Aditya nath at center and an adityanath lite in UP. I may be wrong but it's just my two cents. Problem is Modi can't continue after 2029, he will become too old and we might face another situation where someone in cricket stays for too long that they end up being a villian. Yogi & Hemanta are in league of their own with decision making and administration...other BJP CM's like Mohan Yadav, Fadnavis etc are good as well but don't have aura like the above two. If BJP moves Yogi from UP, they need someone to backfill. My guess is Yogi might already be working on that and someone from Math or from Hindu Yuva Vahini may rise in an year or two as a second in command for Yogi once UP elections are over. coffee_rules and Muloghonto 2
bharathh Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said: Problem is Modi can't continue after 2029, he will become too old and we might face another situation where someone in cricket stays for too long that they end up being a villian. Yogi & Hemanta are in league of their own with decision making and administration...other BJP CM's like Mohan Yadav, Fadnavis etc are good as well but don't have aura like the above two. If BJP moves Yogi from UP, they need someone to backfill. My guess is Yogi might already be working on that and someone from Math or from Hindu Yuva Vahini may rise in an year or two as a second in command for Yogi once UP elections are over. As much as I admire Yogi - he is still needed for UP. We need someone as strong as him for UP and need someone like him for Bihar and the other BIMARU states. IMO, I would prefer someone like Himanta Biswas for PM. I would love for Jaishankar to become PM - but he doesn't have the mass appeal. ravishingravi 1
mishra Posted January 15 Posted January 15 (edited) On 1/13/2025 at 3:17 PM, Muloghonto said: My view is different. My view is, road to Dilli goes through UP and yogi is the wall of UP. if UP isn't a safe bet for bjp even after 2 terms of yogi, it means UP won't be safe for bjp in another generation and thus yogi is vital to retain UP. NO UP = coalition govt of power compromise and no major hinduvta item moves forward. Bjp can survive at centre without yogi but bjp won't survive without UP. And I don't think yogi can be replaced in UP. So yogi must remain in UP is my view. You are absolutely right, Non UPites have no idea how UP was before Yogi. Policemen used to look itherway while sime goon and his men partied in frornt of Assembly house placing alcohol bottles on bonnet of their Jeep. Netflix series Mirzapur’s Munna Bhaiya x10. Even Dawwood wouldn’t have survived in his homeland Azamgarh. However RSS needs to find alternative to Yogi if they want him in centre. But I wouldn’t trust Yogi with PMship. I know @coffee_rules have different opinion but he shows all signs of a Yogi Kshatriya Not sure he will survive with West and Mid east as PM of India because it’s different ball game altogether Edited January 15 by mishra Muloghonto 1
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