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57 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

1. UP has less people coming from abroad than Pakistan.

2. You must do cost-benefit analysis. How much more people of UP had to suffer - in terms of livelihood (for many it is life n death), freedom, mental health. There's no doubt in my mind that Pakistan did fantastically well. 

 


You are free to make up your mind but seems like for all the data driven and strategic talk, you seem to ignore all the data. 
 

International arrivals doesn’t matter. In fact it easier to manage them that since incoming passengers can be tracked compared to  community transmission through unchecked movement of people. 

 

I have friends from Lahore, Rawalpindi and Sindh. And all of them have said effectively it has been lock down. In fact, police are beating them up just like India. They have started opening two days back when Asad Umar announced new SOPs. For your reference. Some of them were going to mosque for Ramazan. 
 

 


https://youtu.be/JyJgX2-u45Y


 

https://youtu.be/BmFulD7wibA

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37 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:


You are free to make up your mind but seems like for all the data driven and strategic talk, you seem to ignore all the data. 
 

International arrivals doesn’t matter. In fact it easier to manage them that since incoming passengers can be tracked compared to  community transmission through unchecked movement of people. 

 

I have friends from Lahore, Rawalpindi and Sindh. And all of them have said effectively it has been lock down. In fact, police are beating them up just like India. They have started opening two days back when Asad Umar announced new SOPs. For your reference. Some of them were going to mosque for Ramazan. 
 

 


https://youtu.be/JyJgX2-u45Y


 

https://youtu.be/BmFulD7wibA

1. If nothing matters for you then look at Ghana (22 deaths with 3 cr. People, already opened lockdown 25 days back) and curse your govt. 

2. Here are google trends for offices, parks, residence, stations etc  occupancy during lockdown:

 

Pakistan:

https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobility/2020-05-02_PK_Mobility_Report_en.pdf

 

India:

https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobility/2020-05-02_IN_Mobility_Report_en.pdf

 

Just open the above links , you will find that pak has significantly higher occupancy in offices stations parks retail etc. Than India.

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Posted
13 hours ago, someone said:

That's  a flawed thinking. Full Lockdown by Modi is one of the best decisions taken in modern India. From 500 cases to now 70K. Lockdown was never meant to kill the virus, but putting a "limit" to the damage.

 

Our people with one community specifically have failed us as a country. We are a larger country than Pakistan, and the spread has been wide. That's been the main issue. It's a total failure of people co-operation.

Yup and can’t compare to Pakistani. Their pm is a coward. He basically left those students in wuhan stranded. What a gutless pm!!

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On 5/10/2020 at 12:28 PM, velu said:

 

add WB as well ..  bongs are fairly literate when compared to bihar/up 

Those bongs are delusional and their own worst energy. Most of the sickulars are bongs. They think they’re so smart.

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If not for the single source creeps, India would have been the country that best handled this crisis. And we would have opened up much before. 

Posted
21 hours ago, randomGuy said:

Unfortunately our western neighbour has done a better job with lockdowns while trying to sustain livelihoods, a humane approach. Less deaths so far. If tests matter, they have done more than us per capita. Don't know if true but they claim even newyork is following smart lockdown approach seeing Imran.

Can't believe numbers coming from Pak. How do we know the dead are being tested if they died of corona ?

How do we know deaths are not being passed of as natural or from other illnesses?

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18 hours ago, randomGuy said:

No it is not...you could say test per death or test per positive case are more important criteria...there as well Pakistan doing great...it is doing great at keeping livelihoods open as well..

 

Truly fantastic job following evidence based , practicable approach best applicable to their own country.

India was second behind Germany in tests per 1000 deaths.

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1 hour ago, beetle said:

Can't believe numbers coming from Pak. How do we know the dead are being tested if they died of corona ?

How do we know deaths are not being passed of as natural or from other illnesses?

We know from comparing with Singapore , Qatar etc...where cases are humongous but deaths are minuscule in number. For ex. Cases would be 5000-10000 per 10 lac population and deaths would be only 3-5 per 10 lac population.

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3 hours ago, Laaloo said:

Yup and can’t compare to Pakistani. Their pm is a coward. He basically left those students in wuhan stranded. What a gutless pm!!

Pakistans strategy proved Excellent in saving livelihoods as well as lives. We can discuss about stranded students and cowardice elsewhere.

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4 hours ago, Laaloo said:

Yup and can’t compare to Pakistani. Their pm is a coward. He basically left those students in wuhan stranded. What a gutless pm!!

Lets not be too hard on them.

In India lot of people can't go to old sick parents ,can't conduct last rites etc because of lockdown.

People with influence and money can get their way through but most others are helpless. 

 

Unless you are rich influential person or a migrant worker.....you have no rights right now. People in the country are no different from those pak students.

 

This lockdown business should have been sorted out by now . Two months is enough time .Can't take away people's basic rights to be with the people they love like this for so long.Nor can the govt take away peoples right to work for so long.

 

We are not china...but right now it feels like we live in china.

 

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5 hours ago, randomGuy said:

Pakistans strategy proved Excellent in saving livelihoods as well as lives. We can discuss about stranded students and cowardice elsewhere.

Do you have any source to proof deharis were getting their livelihoods during covid ,as far as I know though Imran kept shouting no lockdown but most of the Pakistani states were in lockdown. Do you think India would have done better without lockdown, I don't think so just after slight relaxation in past   2 weeks number has shoot up like anything.

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On 5/13/2020 at 4:04 PM, beetle said:

Lets not be too hard on them.

In India lot of people can't go to old sick parents ,can't conduct last rites etc because of lockdown.

People with influence and money can get their way through but most others are helpless. 

 

Unless you are rich influential person or a migrant worker.....you have no rights right now. People in the country are no different from those pak students.

 

This lockdown business should have been sorted out by now . Two months is enough time .Can't take away people's basic rights to be with the people they love like this for so long.Nor can the govt take away peoples right to work for so long.

 

We are not china...but right now it feels like we live in china.

 

If educated people like yourself think like that, the country is doomed. Lockdown cannot cure the Covid virus, but put a limit to the damage.

 

And don't look at the migrant crisis as one-sided, many understand, accept and have managed it. It's just unfortunate that with a large country, even 10% population is a huge number.

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On 5/13/2020 at 5:42 PM, raki05 said:

Do you have any source to proof deharis were getting their livelihoods during covid ,as far as I know though Imran kept shouting no lockdown but most of the Pakistani states were in lockdown. Do you think India would have done better without lockdown, I don't think so just after slight relaxation in past   2 weeks number has shoot up like anything.

There is no exponential rise in cases. It is increasing at rate of 5-6% . When we are at 60k cases , daily cases were 3k now we are at 100 k and we have 5k cases.

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3 hours ago, Singh bling said:

There is no exponential rise in cases. It is increasing at rate of 5-6% . When we are at 60k cases , daily cases were 3k now we are at 100 k and we have 5k cases.

3k started coming when slight  relaxation has been given from 2nd lockdown onwards.

Posted
14 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

Priyanka outfoxed Yogi on bus issue . Event chirag paswan is criticising Yogi for not taking buses.

She is being criticized by Kaangressi MLA from Rae Bareli. Needless to say the MLA got suspended.

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