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Good 2nd step! IIRC children need to learn at least 6 years in their MTs to maximize the benefits, so that is good. 

 

Last year the Centre started the process of having textbooks, including higher ed textbooks IIRC, translated into Indian languages.  

 

We will see what step 3 of this process is!

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On 8/2/2020 at 12:39 AM, sarchasm said:

True dat. TN is such a success story that in delhi NCR, after the bengalis, it's the tamils - even more than biharis - who dominate the domestic bai scene. Come to railway tracks crossing Lajpat Nagar II and observe the success story in action, masses of slummy tamils living and shitting in open.

Such a poor, bitter post. As if the rest of India is so highly educated  and no other community lives in slums . The 2 language policy is the way forward for India no matter what anyone thinks

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Also people talking about Kannada medium, Tamil medium schools in bangalore need to remember that these schools offered very poor quality education. Literally anyone who understood  the advantage of instruction in english would bend over backwards to put their kids in English medium convent schools like a josephs, cottons, FAPS, Baldwin's and their ilk(oldest schools in blore) until the 80's and subsequently the various other icse, CBSe and international schools where english is pretty much the dominant language spoken among students. How do you think this city has such a high number of speakers of english at least as a second language ?

 

English as a first language and the state language/Hindi as the second language as per preference . Go ahead with this idea and it will only increase the gap between the English speaking elite and those who learn in their mother tongues. Of course, it will be the elite that would actually support this as it would simply continue to give them a privileged status while damning the regional language speakers with no chance of upward social mobility 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Also people talking about Kannada medium, Tamil medium schools in bangalore need to remember that these schools offered very poor quality education. Literally anyone who understood  the advantage of instruction in english would bend over backwards to put their kids in English medium convent schools like a josephs, cottons, FAPS, Baldwin's and their ilk(oldest schools in blore) until the 80's and subsequently the various other icse, CBSe and international schools where english is pretty much the dominant language spoken among students. How do you think this city has such a high number of speakers of english at least as a second language ?

 

English as a first language and the state language/Hindi as the second language as per preference . Go ahead with this idea and it will only increase the gap between the English speaking elite and those who learn in their mother tongues. Of course, it will be the elite that would actually support this as it would simply continue to give them a privileged status while damning the regional language speakers with no chance of upward social mobility 

 

 

 

There are/were quality Kannada medium schools. We are talking about Primary education till 5th at least. We don’t need  kids in wombs learning English. If it is encouraged, there a no harm done.

 

Regarding languages, we need a national link language. Hindi is the defacto link Lang which could be encouraged and not enforced 

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Some of the schemes introduced by the Tamil Nadu government in school education are

Girls education

Mid-day Meal Scheme with Egg

Distribution of free textbooks

Distribution of free uniforms

Distribution of free bus pass

50K for a girl.child during the marriage if the girl completes 12th std.

Free Sanitary napkin for girls

Free Bicycle

Free Sandals

Nutrition Mix

School bag

Tamil nadu has more number of Govt schools providing free education.

Free education for first graduate in the family

 

Some of the above reg Girls education is good, except the marriage one, but funding all these costs

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36 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

There are/were quality Kannada medium schools. We are talking about Primary education till 5th at least. We don’t need  kids in wombs learning English. If it is encouraged, there a no harm done.

 

Regarding languages, we need a national link language. Hindi is the defacto link Lang which could be encouraged and not enforced 

If the quality Kannada medium schools were actually as good as you say, then the Kannada speaking elite from south Bangalore would not have put their kids in English medium schools in the decades after independence like they did.  Kids actually learn their mother tongue first considering they don't join kindergarten till the age of 4. Thats when they pick up the English language. What is the point of instruction in mother tongue or Hindi till the age of 11 only to then switch over to another language? They are better off learning a language that they will pursue their higher education in, give them better chances of employment in the workforce and generally make them competent in building business/personal relations if they were to travel abroad for higher education  etc. There is not a single advantage that a regional language has over English . The utility of English cannot be matched no matter how much one whinges about it being a foreign imposition, un-Indian etc.

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On 8/1/2020 at 11:28 AM, Stan AF said:

TN struck gold with its 2 language policy of Tamil and English in the 60's itself. Thank you C.N Annadurai. Tamil for us and English with rest of the world.

 

TN should stick with its 2 language policy. We don't need a 3rd language. Asking kids to learn 3 languages is a goddamn waste of time and puts unnecessary pressure on young kids thereby resulting in dropouts. Besides there are many more crucial life skills to be learnt instead of an unnecessary 3rd language.

 

Another policy that rest of the indian states to emulate.

Exactly. There is no reason for a third language when there is already too many subjects the students have to read. Also children study programming languages now :shock:. Wow too much pressure on children

On 8/3/2020 at 5:23 PM, Nikhil_cric said:

Such a poor, bitter post. As if the rest of India is so highly educated  and no other community lives in slums . The 2 language policy is the way forward for India no matter what anyone thinks

Don't mind this fool. He never posts like a mentally healthy person. His posts are full of vile filthy language that makes this recent post of his somewhat clean. Also, I never hear about Tamils in Delhi apart from central govt workers and they don't live in slums. Majority of Tamils don't know Hindi. So it takes some worth like a high paying job to move to Delhi and deal with a place like Delhi which is known for its social aggressiveness. Delhi is also notorious for its rapes :no:

Most of the migration is from populated areas in UP and Bihar to major cities like Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, Bengaluru and even smaller towns in the South and not the other way around. I don't know what this guy is smoking. His posts carry a negative vibe and some people who reply to him get caught up in it and waste their time.

Infact I would wager that most of South Indians in Delhi are either working in central govt or related industries. Those who were born there and settled there wouldn't be that different from your average Delhiite. I know a relative and a coworker from Delhi who was telugu. Both of them are more comfortable with Hindi and English and cannot speak in their native tongues more than what an American desi can.

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