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Lil Early to Say but this England side are showing Flashes of the Dominant Australian side


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One thing this english team is above that Aussie team is their bowlers are more than capable bats.They can bat upto #11 even without guys like Stokes in the playing 11.

 

Tom and Sam curran can bat. Rashid can bat. David willey hit a 50 against us in 2018. Liam Plunkett can bat. The only bowler who can't bat like the rest would be Mark wood.

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20 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

One thing this english team is above that Aussie team is their bowlers are more than capable bats.They can bat upto #11 even without guys like Stokes in the playing 11.

 

Tom and Sam curran can bat. Rashid can bat. David willey hit a 50 against us in 2018. Liam Plunkett can bat. The only bowler who can't bat like the rest would be Mark wood.

Archer can bat to, capable to play game changing cameos.

This is what helps them to even achieve 250 most days when its a collapse and archer n wood are bowlers who can win u games. Not to forget woakes n rashid who keeps chipping away with wkts and then stokes who make things happen. Root is also there as a golden arm for them. 

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8 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

while we seem to do well in ICC tourneys only when the pitches are conducive to spin even if moderately, this English team can play exceedingly well in all the other conditons except on slow wickets. 

i want to see this full fledged side play on subcontinental wkts with wood n archer

last time they were in India their attack wasnt great 

 

willey , woakes, ball on indian wkts wasnt an ideal attack . 

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1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

i want to see this full fledged side play on subcontinental wkts with wood n archer

last time they were in India their attack wasnt great 

 

willey , woakes, ball on indian wkts wasnt an ideal attack . 

they will win each and every match if they play their best eleven on pattas..  ofcourse things like dew might spoil their party

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Just now, Vk1 said:

they will win each and every match if they play their best eleven on pattas..  ofcourse things like dew might spoil their party

you cant win each n every game against indian side in their home, it ll be a close contest and if pitches turn we have advantage ..if its like wankhade well its anyones game

 

In SL they can win each n every game

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1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

you cant win each n every game against indian side in their home, it ll be a close contest and if pitches turn we have advantage ..if its like wankhade well its anyones game

 

In SL they can win each n every game

even in India I expect them to clean sweep us if they play their best 11 and on absoulte flat tracks.. they have become a freakish side on such flat pitches.. 

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3 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

even in India I expect them to clean sweep us if they play their best 11 and on absoulte flat tracks.. they have become a freakish side on such flat pitches.. 

In India they cant clean sweep, clean sweep is very very tough in ODi specially when opp has rohit, kohli, Bumrah, dhawan playing in their own backyard. Our middle order is in much much better shape now and Rahul plays archer damn well...infact all our batsman play archer well...woakes aint getting much swing in India 

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1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

In India they cant clean sweep, clean sweep is very very tough in ODi specially when opp has rohit, kohli, Bumrah, dhawan playing in their own backyard. Our middle order is in much much better shape now and Rahul plays archer damn well...infact all our batsman play archer well...woakes aint getting much swing in India 

They came close last time..  Almost chased 380+ in 2nd ODI 2017. Morgan played a blinder.  Smashed us in 3rd game. 

With this bowling line up & that batting line..  Full strength english team can clean sweep us. 

We got clean sweeped by NZ recently so we ain't infallible 

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2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

They came close last time..  Almost chased 380+ in 2nd ODI 2017. Morgan played a blinder.  Smashed us in 3rd game. 

With this bowling line up & that batting line..  Full strength english team can clean sweep us. 

We got clean sweeped by NZ recently so we ain't infallible 

NZ clean sweeped us in their home

here we are talking about in India.......i dnt think thats happening 

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10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

NZ clean sweeped us in their home

here we are talking about in India.......i dnt think thats happening 

I know..  Just saying its not that far fetched.  WI nearly beat us on flat tracks last time.  

Indian tracks,  fast outfields are just too much favourable to this English batting lineup.  English bowling was too poor in 2017 & still they were close to beat us in first two games.. Won in 3rd.  Now with much much better lineup they are more than enough to beat India. 

Not saying India can't do the same but England have more than a chance.  Indian spinners are key to beat them...  If they are out of form then we got no chance. 

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24 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

In India they cant clean sweep, clean sweep is very very tough in ODi specially when opp has rohit, kohli, Bumrah, dhawan playing in their own backyard. Our middle order is in much much better shape now and Rahul plays archer damn well...infact all our batsman play archer well...woakes aint getting much swing in India 

they have become an even better side since their previous visit.. ours is a confused team good enough to beat all the othersides but not Eng

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People need to understand even we can chase whatever they post against us, bilaterals are no pressure thing,we can chase 350 against this very attack,

Problem lies when we post totals in flat tracks we tend to get confused and become super circumspect in search of anchoring innings (top3)which is dangerous ploy against ,hypersonic lineup like England

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16 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

they have become an even better side since their previous visit.. ours is a confused team good enough to beat all the othersides but not Eng

confused ?? in what regd

Post iyer, rahul our middle order is so better now and once hardik plays along them it ll be much better, addition of saini also has made bowling better 

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Top team has some extra advantage 

 

SA use to make a diff of 20-25 runs in field 

Aus, WI had the bowling to win despite scoring sub par totals

England depth is giving them an advantage of 40 runs 

 

India needs to find its extra advantage....if they dont have the depth that england has no need to copy them . Work on our strength ....may be using bumrah , saini and spinners to choke opposition in middle overs. Also start looking for 2 aggresive batsman as 2 slots shud be open now

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15 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

confused ?? in what regd

Post iyer, rahul our middle order is so better now and once hardik plays along them it ll be much better, addition of saini also has made bowling better 

20 overs of our spinners will be a problem.. middle order is still unsettled and HPandya rarely lasts for couple of months.. I like Iyer a lot but he is still raw..  Pant should hopefully do well going forward... all these may not be a problem against other sides but can become glaring against this Eng side..  

Main thing is their intimidating batting unit.. can score anything from any situation and can choke opponents just with that score. * all these on absoulte flat tracks

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