rkt.india Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 7 hours ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said: Even if we do bring them bowlers who can bat, ICFers will then complain that our bowling is crap and we need specialist bowlers. But those English players make it to the team in bowling first. Batting is just bonus. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Need to groom Darshan Nalkande and Abhimanyu Singh Rajput. Who is abhimanyu singh rajput ? Link to comment
Stan AF Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 One thing this english team is above that Aussie team is their bowlers are more than capable bats.They can bat upto #11 even without guys like Stokes in the playing 11. Tom and Sam curran can bat. Rashid can bat. David willey hit a 50 against us in 2018. Liam Plunkett can bat. The only bowler who can't bat like the rest would be Mark wood. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, Stan AF said: One thing this english team is above that Aussie team is their bowlers are more than capable bats.They can bat upto #11 even without guys like Stokes in the playing 11. Tom and Sam curran can bat. Rashid can bat. David willey hit a 50 against us in 2018. Liam Plunkett can bat. The only bowler who can't bat like the rest would be Mark wood. Archer can bat to, capable to play game changing cameos. This is what helps them to even achieve 250 most days when its a collapse and archer n wood are bowlers who can win u games. Not to forget woakes n rashid who keeps chipping away with wkts and then stokes who make things happen. Root is also there as a golden arm for them. Link to comment
Stan AF Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Yea, you have to get all 10 wickets and bowl em out cheaply to win against them. Just a top order collapse alone won't cut it. Their batting depth is a huge problem for opposition. Link to comment
Vk1 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 while we seem to do well in ICC tourneys only when the pitches are conducive to spin even if moderately, this English team can play exceedingly well in all the other conditons except on slow wickets. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Vk1 said: while we seem to do well in ICC tourneys only when the pitches are conducive to spin even if moderately, this English team can play exceedingly well in all the other conditons except on slow wickets. i want to see this full fledged side play on subcontinental wkts with wood n archer last time they were in India their attack wasnt great willey , woakes, ball on indian wkts wasnt an ideal attack . Link to comment
Suhaan Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Need reserves for Archer,Wood They can't play everytime Good batting is always easier to maintain than good bowling, This is their Golden Age and their upcoming players are oozing with confidence no doubt that Link to comment
Vk1 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: i want to see this full fledged side play on subcontinental wkts with wood n archer last time they were in India their attack wasnt great willey , woakes, ball on indian wkts wasnt an ideal attack . they will win each and every match if they play their best eleven on pattas.. ofcourse things like dew might spoil their party Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Vk1 said: they will win each and every match if they play their best eleven on pattas.. ofcourse things like dew might spoil their party you cant win each n every game against indian side in their home, it ll be a close contest and if pitches turn we have advantage ..if its like wankhade well its anyones game In SL they can win each n every game Link to comment
Vk1 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: you cant win each n every game against indian side in their home, it ll be a close contest and if pitches turn we have advantage ..if its like wankhade well its anyones game In SL they can win each n every game even in India I expect them to clean sweep us if they play their best 11 and on absoulte flat tracks.. they have become a freakish side on such flat pitches.. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Vk1 said: even in India I expect them to clean sweep us if they play their best 11 and on absoulte flat tracks.. they have become a freakish side on such flat pitches.. In India they cant clean sweep, clean sweep is very very tough in ODi specially when opp has rohit, kohli, Bumrah, dhawan playing in their own backyard. Our middle order is in much much better shape now and Rahul plays archer damn well...infact all our batsman play archer well...woakes aint getting much swing in India Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: In India they cant clean sweep, clean sweep is very very tough in ODi specially when opp has rohit, kohli, Bumrah, dhawan playing in their own backyard. Our middle order is in much much better shape now and Rahul plays archer damn well...infact all our batsman play archer well...woakes aint getting much swing in India They came close last time.. Almost chased 380+ in 2nd ODI 2017. Morgan played a blinder. Smashed us in 3rd game. With this bowling line up & that batting line.. Full strength english team can clean sweep us. We got clean sweeped by NZ recently so we ain't infallible Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: They came close last time.. Almost chased 380+ in 2nd ODI 2017. Morgan played a blinder. Smashed us in 3rd game. With this bowling line up & that batting line.. Full strength english team can clean sweep us. We got clean sweeped by NZ recently so we ain't infallible NZ clean sweeped us in their home here we are talking about in India.......i dnt think thats happening Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: NZ clean sweeped us in their home here we are talking about in India.......i dnt think thats happening I know.. Just saying its not that far fetched. WI nearly beat us on flat tracks last time. Indian tracks, fast outfields are just too much favourable to this English batting lineup. English bowling was too poor in 2017 & still they were close to beat us in first two games.. Won in 3rd. Now with much much better lineup they are more than enough to beat India. Not saying India can't do the same but England have more than a chance. Indian spinners are key to beat them... If they are out of form then we got no chance. Link to comment
Vk1 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: In India they cant clean sweep, clean sweep is very very tough in ODi specially when opp has rohit, kohli, Bumrah, dhawan playing in their own backyard. Our middle order is in much much better shape now and Rahul plays archer damn well...infact all our batsman play archer well...woakes aint getting much swing in India they have become an even better side since their previous visit.. ours is a confused team good enough to beat all the othersides but not Eng Edited September 16, 2020 by Vk1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 People need to understand even we can chase whatever they post against us, bilaterals are no pressure thing,we can chase 350 against this very attack, Problem lies when we post totals in flat tracks we tend to get confused and become super circumspect in search of anchoring innings (top3)which is dangerous ploy against ,hypersonic lineup like England Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Vk1 said: they have become an even better side since their previous visit.. ours is a confused team good enough to beat all the othersides but not Eng confused ?? in what regd Post iyer, rahul our middle order is so better now and once hardik plays along them it ll be much better, addition of saini also has made bowling better Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Top team has some extra advantage SA use to make a diff of 20-25 runs in field Aus, WI had the bowling to win despite scoring sub par totals England depth is giving them an advantage of 40 runs India needs to find its extra advantage....if they dont have the depth that england has no need to copy them . Work on our strength ....may be using bumrah , saini and spinners to choke opposition in middle overs. Also start looking for 2 aggresive batsman as 2 slots shud be open now Link to comment
Vk1 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: confused ?? in what regd Post iyer, rahul our middle order is so better now and once hardik plays along them it ll be much better, addition of saini also has made bowling better 20 overs of our spinners will be a problem.. middle order is still unsettled and HPandya rarely lasts for couple of months.. I like Iyer a lot but he is still raw.. Pant should hopefully do well going forward... all these may not be a problem against other sides but can become glaring against this Eng side.. Main thing is their intimidating batting unit.. can score anything from any situation and can choke opponents just with that score. * all these on absoulte flat tracks Edited September 16, 2020 by Vk1 Link to comment
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