Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 At this point only mayank looks ahead rest now he shud make it a 600+ season samson Shaw Gill all have not helped their case , its worrying coz beating dhawan was the benchmark who is a below avg t20 player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Drive Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Player / Avg / Strike Rate Gill / 39.28 / 116.52 Padikkal / 32.88 / 122 Shaw / 22 / 147 None of the two openers have a proper combination of a good average and strike rate ratio even at IPL level. n T20i against international bowlers and international fielders it will be more tough. Gill just kills the momentum and does nto has T20i approach. It is seen in way he bats as well as his strike rate. Padikkal too looks to stress more on amking 50's for himself but at cost of killing momentum. Also, he gets tired even after running for some time. Stamina is an issue with him. Shaw is a liability on the filed and he gets out on single digit scores far too often. 0, 0, 4,19, 42, 66, 2, 64,50, 0, 4, 2, 5. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 11 hours ago, coffee_rules said: 5 lives That is part of game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Doesnt matter he can score 1000 runs but if he keeps faling at international t20 cricket , that has been the story of every year He can keep playing IPL and be bradman but unless he improves in international t20 these are meaningless runs . Last year u showed me stat and yet that guy ended up loosing his place to Rahul His only advantage now is others are doing enough but thats not an achievement thats andho men kanna raja Only thing that matters is 90 by HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 As they say cream floats to the top. End of the IPL season will show the top bats for India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, Khota said: Only thing that matters is 90 by HP. get a kick from someone at ur home looks like ur record is stuck....try watching some cricket might come up with some facts to support ur argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: get a kick from someone at ur home looks like ur record is stuck....try watching some cricket might come up with some facts to support ur argument Downplaying a top player because it does not suit your agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Khota said: Downplaying a top player because it does not suit your agenda. i hve no agenda, he didnt run away with my g.f if u dnt understand format diff not my problem, next time before calling me for agenda better show me what he has done in international t20 and IPL is not international cricket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: i hve no agenda, he didnt run away with my g.f if u dnt understand format diff not my problem, next time before calling me for agenda better show me what he has done in international t20 and IPL is not international cricket IPL is the only fair format to gauge a player. Nothing comes close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 Just now, Khota said: IPL is the only fair format to gauge a player. Nothing comes close to it. then how come dhawan scores in IPL and has been failing in international How come finch is such a flop in IPL but a gun in international How come dhoni does well in t20 and fails in international So no IPL doesnt guarntee anything. It can show a player has talent but when a guy has failed like dhawan in international t20 then there is no point talking about talent coz he has failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Khota said: IPL is the only fair format to gauge a player. Nothing comes close to it. did it matter last yrs when u kept showing his IPL number yet he kept failing in international and in the end lost his place. Its not my agenda its ur bias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: then how come dhawan scores in IPL and has been failing in international How come finch is such a flop in IPL but a gun in international How come dhoni does well in t20 and fails in international So no IPL doesnt guarntee anything. It can show a player has talent but when a guy has failed like dhawan in international t20 then there is no point talking about talent coz he has failed 4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: did it matter last yrs when u kept showing his IPL number yet he kept failing in international and in the end lost his place. Its not my agenda its ur bias Dhawan is not a failure. Dhoni has been nothing but fail for a while. Finch, I will have to dig deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Khota said: Dhawan is not a failure. Dhoni has been nothing but fail for a while. Finch, I will have to dig deeper. Show me what dhawan has done in international t20. Since u call out ashwin for being bad in 2017 ct what about dhawan being horrible in 2014 n 2016 t20 wc. Neither he has a good avg or s.r in t20 , show me what dhawn has done in t20. While u dig deep for finch do it for dhawan and find what has he done. Next time tag me when u find it rather repeating ur same song he is a top player in world and yet u have nothing to show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalvirsingh Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 9/20/2020 at 1:46 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said: KL n Rohit are fixed , lets look at 3rd option Dhawan Shaw Samson Devdutt Gill Ruturaj Kishen Mayank aggarwal yahsasvi manan vohra Rahane Rayudu Anyone counting Rahane n Rayudu out well you dont know kohli yet Shikhar DHawan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said: Shikhar DHawan. what a tragedy Stan AF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said: Shikhar DHawan. This man has hate for Dhawan. If he cannot see that Dhawan deserves a spot he is pretty much blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Khota said: This man has hate for Dhawan. If he cannot see that Dhawan deserves a spot he is pretty much blind. Never seen any bias in cricketing terms from @Ankit_sharma03, objective very much to be irritating to some fans like us, but Dhawan has been tried and tested in T20Is for India. Time to look beyond him and after today's heroics, it is Mayank ahead of others for the 3rd Opener spot after Rohit, Rahul. speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 6 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Never seen any bias in cricketing terms from @Ankit_sharma03, objective very much to be irritating to some fans like us, but Dhawan has been tried and tested in T20Is for India. Time to look beyond him and after today's heroics, it is Mayank ahead of others for the 3rd Opener spot after Rohit, Rahul. This is nothing but bias. You think players dont show any improvement over time? He was the best in the the last WC ( I understand format and stuff.) He is capable of delivering on the big stage. Mayank has done well but Dhawan is not behind either. There is room for him and four of them can be rotated in top 3 spots. You need to keep playmakers in the team and he is a playmaker. I can make an arguement that he is ahead of Rohit as of now. I can make an argument that he is ahead of Mayank too, but my thinking is different. I want all four to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 6 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Never seen any bias in cricketing terms from @Ankit_sharma03, objective very much to be irritating to some fans like us, but Dhawan has been tried and tested in T20Is for India. Time to look beyond him and after today's heroics, it is Mayank ahead of others for the 3rd Opener spot after Rohit, Rahul. 15 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: what a tragedy Paradox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 @coffee_rules and @Ankit_sharma03 if there is true objectivity the top two are Rahul and Dhawan. Followed by Mayank. This is as of today and I can defend that all day long. If some does metrics properly this discussion would not take place. I like Ankit but to me he displays nothing but superficial knowledge of the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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