[2020s] Watched any new movies? *Please use spoiler tags*

[Mariyam]

30 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Also good with improvising scenes.

 

 

I see a lot of hamming.

 

Yeah he may be a standout in a talentless (acting-wise) industry like Hollywood. Our theatre actors would give De Niro a run for his money from a pure acting perspective.

 

Where Hollywood does well is screenplay and general writing.

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Mariyam said:

I see a lot of hamming.

 

Yeah he may be a standout in a talentless (acting-wise) industry like Hollywood. Our theatre actors would give De Niro a run for his money from a pure acting perspective.

 

Where Hollywood does well is screenplay and general writing.

Probably someone from south lol These khans are ridiculous actors.

[Tillu]

5 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

I see a lot of hamming.

 

Yeah he may be a standout in a talentless (acting-wise) industry like Hollywood. Our theatre actors would give De Niro a run for his money from a pure acting perspective.

 

Where Hollywood does well is screenplay and general writing.

 

Then why is Bollywood not hiring good writers.

 

Even the Southern industries are having a dearth of good writers. Nobody wants to hire them and the directors are writing their own stories in the fear that good writers will eventually become directors and will push them out of the industry.

[Mariyam]

Just now, Tillu said:

 

Then why is Bollywood not hiring good writers.

 

Even the Southern industries are having a dearth of good writers. Nobody wants to hire them and the directors are writing their own stories in the fear that good writers will eventually become directors and will push them out of the industry.

Absolutely. You answered your own question.

 

Anurag Kashyap was a ghost writer, then a writer and became a director. Most established directors are scared of this. They don't want to be displaced. Hence they tend to do their own writing.

 

Also, Bollywood is formulaic. They know what rakes in the moolah. Why deviate?

 

If it ain't broke yadda yadda.

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

I see a lot of hamming.

 

Yeah he may be a standout in a talentless (acting-wise) industry like Hollywood. Our theatre actors would give De Niro a run for his money from a pure acting perspective.

 

Where Hollywood does well is screenplay and general writing.

 

 

You should see the whole movie to understand the situation, character and acting. You can't watch a clip and claim hamming. Jack Nicholson also plays the part, it is about adding the right emotions that character needs. You also shouldn't read synopsis on IMDb and judge a movie. One of his best movies . 

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, coffee_rules said:

 

 

You should see the whole movie to understand the situation, character and acting. You can't watch a clip and claim hamming. Jack Nicholson also plays the part, it is about adding the right emotions that character needs. You also shouldn't read synopsis on IMDb and judge a movie. One of his best movies . 

He won an oscar. 1970s was box office decade for Al pacino. Variety of roles Justice for all, Serpico as a honest cop, 5 oscar nominations in the 70s alone.

 

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[vvvslaxman]

By the way Dog Day afternoon was based on a true story. Bank hold up for his gay friend's sex change operation.

[coffee_rules]

2 hours ago, Tillu said:

 

This and Pacino's speech in "The scent of a woman" are so inspiring. He is so good in authoritative roles.

One of the best. Kept avoiding this movie for some reason, the premise was not appealing. But saw the whole movie in one sitting just for his acting. 

 

 

[kepler37b]

1 hour ago, Tillu said:

 

Then why is Bollywood not hiring good writers.

 

Even the Southern industries are having a dearth of good writers. Nobody wants to hire them and the directors are writing their own stories in the fear that good writers will eventually become directors and will push them out of the industry.

The issue is that technicians in telugu film industry are glory/money/adulation seeking megalomaniacal career-ists rather than craftsmen. They want to "grow" from writing to directing, inspite of persona not being suited.

 

Mallu film industry have good writers and they want to remain so as they love the craft rather than glory and money.

[Tillu]

42 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

By the way Dog Day afternoon was based on a true story. Bank hold up for his gay friend's sex change operation.

 

The opening scene in Swordfish is all about Dogs day afternoon. Travolta also is an amazing actor.

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

Experimental movies are not m ade in bollywood. THey invest crores of rupees. They go for safe formulaic movies.  Easiest way is movies that were hit in south. They somehow end up ruining the remake. Having six pack is being projected as some kind of acting skill in north. THen the amount of chances they give to nepo kids  to mature is cringeworthy

[Mariyam]

16 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

 

 

You should see the whole movie to understand the situation, character and acting. You can't watch a clip and claim hamming. Jack Nicholson also plays the part, it is about adding the right emotions that character needs. You also shouldn't read synopsis on IMDb and judge a movie. One of his best movies . 

You've actually made my point for me.

 

If I have to see the entire movie to understand a situation, the actor has *not* done his job well.

 

Sample this scene:

 

 

 

From 7:52 onwards. This is acting. Both the actors are able to emote every emotion without the need of any context.

[coffee_rules]

4 hours ago, Mariyam said:

You've actually made my point for me.

 

If I have to see the entire movie to understand a situation, the actor has *not* done his job well.

 

Sample this scene:

 

 

 

From 7:52 onwards. This is acting. Both the actors are able to emote every emotion without the need of any context.

Why would one watch a snippet and compare? Audiences also watch with their own lens, lived experiences and sensibilities. Deewar scenes are from Indian film-making legacy with their dramas with over-expression and director’s spoon-feeding the audience. Anger has to be shown with the actor red-eyed, flaring nostrils. Only then the audience will know the character is angry. The premise of Deewar is straightforward - brothers having different experiences in life grow up being stark different. DDA is more complex premise about a man fighting a system or society having pre-conceived notions about gays, trans and sex change. Totally different genres. I never watch snippets of movies and claim that an actor is hamming.  For some people, this clip is much better than Deewar 

 

 

[kepler37b]

On 9/2/2025 at 9:39 PM, vvvslaxman said:

Experimental movies are not m ade in bollywood. THey invest crores of rupees. They go for safe formulaic movies.  Easiest way is movies that were hit in south. They somehow end up ruining the remake. Having six pack is being projected as some kind of acting skill in north. THen the amount of chances they give to nepo kids  to mature is cringeworthy

They do attempt experiments. But are not able to pull it off like mallu's. They are in a bad phase.  In 70's and 60's, south industries used to copy bollywood. 

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, kepler37b said:

They do attempt experiments. But are not able to pull it off like mallu's. They are in a bad phase.  In 70's and 60's, south industries used to copy bollywood. 

Mallu movies were never made for commercial reasons. ONly recently they are making commercial moies. They are massive Tamil masala movie fans. Also their movies are heavily drama oriented.  They get inspired from English movies and make their own flavor of it.  Especially early Mohanlal, Mammooty movies were masala free movies. Only late 90s they started making masala movies. But they always had shoe string budget. So they had to rely on story, acting, screenplay. Tamil had a mix of both worlds. Some fantastic directors like Balachander, Bharathi Raja, Mahendran, Balu Mahendra, SP Muthuraman and many more had their own signature. Tamil movies is probably having the perfect mix of every thing. Crime, tech thriller, masala, family drama they explored more genres than any film industry.  V.Sekar, Visu had their own style. Bhagyaraj an immensly gifted screenplay write had his own style. 

[kepler37b]

Tehran is ruined by terrible actors and extremely  mediocre cinematography.  Presenting a dirty and ugly city like delhi(any indian city is the same, before dilli lovers flame me)  is a challenging task. Oddly the cinematographer took the reality pill and tried to show as it is. Every other frame looked buck ugly. 

 

The performances are SO bad. John is beyond bad. Cannot emote. The female leads are fit for swim suite parade, not for movie characters.

 

Managed to watch it for 30 minutes. May be it get's better later. But i do not want to test my patience.

Edited September 4, 2025 by kepler37b

[kepler37b]

9 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Mallu movies were never made for commercial reasons. ONly recently they are making commercial moies. They are massive Tamil masala movie fans. Also their movies are heavily drama oriented.  They get inspired from English movies and make their own flavor of it.  Especially early Mohanlal, Mammooty movies were masala free movies. Only late 90s they started making masala movies. But they always had shoe string budget. So they had to rely on story, acting, screenplay. Tamil had a mix of both worlds. Some fantastic directors like Balachander, Bharathi Raja, Mahendran, Balu Mahendra, SP Muthuraman and many more had their own signature. Tamil movies is probably having the perfect mix of every thing. Crime, tech thriller, masala, family drama they explored more genres than any film industry.  V.Sekar, Visu had their own style. Bhagyaraj an immensly gifted screenplay write had his own style. 

Yeah. Vijay is big there. Tammie movies fill the void left by mallu movies.

 

Tamil movies have a very good mix, I agree. Meiyazhagan is one of my top 10 movies ever. 

[vvvslaxman]

8 hours ago, kepler37b said:

Yeah. Vijay is big there. Tammie movies fill the void left by mallu movies.

 

Tamil movies have a very good mix, I agree. Meiyazhagan is one of my top 10 movies ever. 

I love their focus on crime thriller, tech thriller.  Irumbu thirai, 100, Kanithan, Nibunan, Ratschasan,  athinaru,  Ivan Thanthiran, Imaaikka nodigal ,psycho quiet a lot. Then twist movies like Dhuruvganl Pathinaru, Maharaja, Imaikka Nodigal  and  Noir movies like  Vikram Vedha, Vada chennai.  Sports movies like Sarpatta parambara, iruthi sutru.  Biopics like Soorarai potru. Satire like Joker.  Romance movies like 96. Tamil directors have more latitude to do more experiments. Credit to big directors i must say who use small budget to give chances to young and upcoming directors. Movies like Pizza, Soodhu kavvum, Naduvula konjam pakkatha kanom have opened the pandora's box of experimental movies.  You still need half decent actors to do these movies.  Good actors are always treated well here regardless of where they hail from. From Rajini to Fahad Fasil.  The actual movies that disapopint me are the super heroes movies. Last few Ajith movies were absolutely atrocious. I hate these needless item songs even in this day and age. Have it right  at the end after title roll.No issues. But in between movie i hate these.

 

In north they unusually found a decent story in Uljah. But they had to cast nepo kid Jhanvi kapoor who looked like stoned in that movie. 

Edited September 4, 2025 by vvvslaxman

[coffee_rules]

Released today. Banned in WB as usual. Looks like hard-hitting like Kashmir Files. Getting some good reviews as well. Lots of symbolism 

 

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

Peacemaker S2 is so fun... Cena rocks man