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Hathras gang rape: Police forcibly took away body for cremation, says victim's brother


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2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

 

What you read in Commies edited History books is not all the truth. A lot of Hindu kings like Shivaji have also banned the Sati Prata much before RRMR and the East India Company. It was mainly used by EIC to justify their use of British Miliary to expand territorial control of India for their advantage. This myth about  Sati system which supposed to prevalent in all over India was spread. Although, there is very little data in historical evidence of personal anecdotes can be found to say it was all over India that people were burning widows. Even in puranas and ithihasa, there have been very few instances. While Kunti didn't do. madri did. Only one of Dashrathas wives did and not all his wives. Read Meenakshi Jain's book on Sati which has enough historical data and context to this issue. Thiis system was more among Rajput villages where the Satied woman were worshipped later. And not in Bengal at all where RRMR was supposed to have fought for banning this evil practice. I am not defending the Sati Prata here, it is a cruel inhuman practice, but it was not accepted all over India. There is very little evidence of it, more so the south, nobody has heard about it until we read in our NCERT books that how evil our ancestors were.  

That is not my point, point is how women have been treated in past and are being continuously being treated even today.FYI Sati system was present in Mahabharata too, Madri leaves her two sons Nakula and Sahadeva and is Satied (if that is correct word) with Pandu.

 

Dowry deaths , rapes, when are these atrocities on women going to end.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Where did you get that information.

If 1 in six is a Indian, one in six rapes should be in India too. But its not. Infact even in west,  crime among Indian Hindus and Sikh is negligible compared to rest of population ratio. Not saying that we don’t need to further improve, but if anyone, then why not Indians be seen in most positive light?

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Getting some news that PFI was involved in this mob instigation...news channels are reporting. Is it another Delhi Riots type model to defame the BJP govt?

Also, as per reports victim's brother was in constant touch with the accused. What is going on?

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/hathras-victim-accused-telephonic-conversation-uttar-pradesh-police-1728954-2020-10-06



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5 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Getting some news that PFI was involved in this mob instigation...news channels are reporting. Is it another Delhi Riots type model to defame the BJP govt?

Also, as per reports victim's brother was in constant touch with the accused. What is going on?

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/hathras-victim-accused-telephonic-conversation-uttar-pradesh-police-1728954-2020-10-06



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Its village. People are not psycho or something. The accused family is just normal villege family and so is victims. Act of assault must have been committed in fit of anger, but once victims life became life threatening. Every villager including accused family would have been concerned.

 

So their is nothing unexplainable in above srory. Only thing that doesn’t adds up is victims brother, who is probably being lured  by political parties. I can guarantee, when he spoke that SIT is needed to investigate the case, NOT a single villager including himself knows what SIT stands for.

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Main Accused Sandeep now says, it was brother and Parents of Girl who beat her up because of his friendship to the girl. Now , who is lieing?

 

All those jumping guns about rape case or murder or caste, there is allways other side of story. Since its village story, I can only make two possible guesses.

 

1. Boy may have had relation with girl, but may have refused to take her as wife.  So, I feel boy is innocent.

2. Victim may have spilled the beans about her relationship and boy may have been confronted by victims family and would have been asked to marry her. Accidental death or Honor killing.

 

 

The best way to guess which of the above two options is correct, Status of local communities and boy and Girls family and brothers  and their connections need to be known. Only local people can tell which family had upper hand. If its honor killing or homicide.

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56 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Some inside story apart, cremating the victim in secret shows UP police and Yogi in bad light, hence all the damage control. Looks like BJP wants to safeguard Thakur vote for the next election. @G_B_ ?

I feel victims elder brother has some serious connections. Initially, when girl was hospitalized, this was a nothing story. Standard crime. But suddenly, it became International News. Things don't add up

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25 minutes ago, mishra said:

I feel victims elder brother has some serious connections. Initially, when girl was hospitalized, this was a nothing story. Standard crime. But suddenly, it became International News. Things don't add up

 

The International collective selective outrage is obviously funded. But, how do you explain UP cops actions? Political or incompetence?  Yogi taking such prompt action shows they are worried about something , so waning political influence among UCs

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3 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

 

The International collective selective outrage is obviously funded. But, how do you explain UP cops actions? Political or incompetence?  Yogi taking such prompt action shows they are worried about something , so waning political influence among UCs

I think it wasn’t limited to International collective selective outrage Something bigger was coming. Police/Admin probably had some intelligence and was directed to avoid it al cost

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^ Ok, Some villagers of upper caste referring victims brother with swear words only but not mother and father or victims means that elder brother of victim is pain in the arse for them.

 

Before it all became a big news below is what was reported on a anti BJP website whose authors/articles are regularly quoted in Pakistani site

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A 19-year-old Dalit girl from a village in Hathras district of Uttar Pradesh has alleged gang rape, police said.

The girl is in the intensive care unit of the J.N. Medical College in Aligarh after the alleged assault on her by four persons of upper caste when she went to collect fodder.

 

Shahid Siddiqui, Principal of J.N. Medical College, said she suffered upper spinal injury leading to quadriplegia. “it could be because of strangulation. The samples have been taken, but as of now sexual assault could not be confirmed,” said Prof. Siddiqui.

Police sources said the incident happened on September 14 in Boolgarhi village that falls under the Chandpa police station in Hathras. An FIR was registered against one person identified as Sandeep on the complaint of the victim’s brother and he was arrested under charges of attempt to murder and relevant sections of the SC/ST Act.

 
“In what was being seen as a case of enmity between two families, took a new turn on Tuesday when the investigating officer went to record the statement of the girl in the hospital. Earlier, she was not in a condition to record her statement,” ASP Hathras, Prakash Kumar, said.

On the basis of the girl’s statement, three more persons have been booked. Two accused have already been arrested and two others would be nabbed soon, Mr. Kumar said, adding section 376D (gang rape) of IPC has been added to the FIR.

 

 

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On 10/5/2020 at 7:07 PM, mishra said:

India has relatively little crime against women compared to any country of world. 

Seriously....this is one of those bs statements like in India we worship women....hence we respect them.

 

India is considered one of the most dangerous countries in the world for women and very rightly so.

 

A country where killing girls has been tradition in large parts of the country and killing / abuse for dowry has and continues to be normal is a horrible place to be.

 

A place where a girl/ woman being alone ...whether going to attend natures call or going to buy grocery is enough reason to be raped casually  and then blamed by the people of the society for the rape is a horrible place for women.

 

Why do men like to say ,there is very little crime in India against women compared to others. Is the horrible crime rate not enough? Does it make them feel better about themselves and the country.  Is burying the head in sand  good?

 

 

 

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Why all the coverage to Hathras? Even here in this Balrampur case she was cremated by police late night, her family is protesting. Few more rape/murder victims (mostly SCs) in Kanpur, Azamgarh, Sultanpur, Bulandshahr, Moradabad in the last 15 days or so...those haven't been covered for a reason, find out yourself. Understand the agenda that is being set by usual suspects, you think these bstards give a * about justice?

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The truth can be anything.

Gangrapes are so common.

People killing daughters and sometimes sons for honor is so common .

 

Both stories are very believable because it happens so often in our country. 

 

If it happens elsewhere too,it doesn't make the situation in our country any better. 

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3 hours ago, beetle said:

Seriously....this is one of those bs statements like in India we worship women....hence we respect them.

 

India is considered one of the most dangerous countries in the world for women and very rightly so.

 

A country where killing girls has been tradition in large parts of the country and killing / abuse for dowry has and continues to be normal is a horrible place to be.

 

A place where a girl/ woman being alone ...whether going to attend natures call or going to buy grocery is enough reason to be raped casually  and then blamed by the people of the society for the rape is a horrible place for women.

 

Why do men like to say ,there is very little crime in India against women compared to others. Is the horrible crime rate not enough? Does it make them feel better about themselves and the country.  Is burying the head in sand  good?

 

 

 

Instead of talking about period Sati Pratha and Jauhar, I am talking about present day. Problem is people like you have blinkers on and can not see betound say UP Bihar, or atmost half of India. Most Northies even do not know Anything about say North East,  South India and so on.

 

When did I say that there is no problem. I said relative to rest of world, We have less crime. Thats a fact which most people are ignorant about. The anecdotal stuff you have mentioned, you can find a lot worse in whole world including The west. 

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3 hours ago, sergio04 said:

 

See, Centre has issued fresh reminder to states that laws wrt last statement of dieIng witness or victims must be followed.

 

Last statement of victim claims rape by 4 allthough there is no medical data and statements did change during the course. So, all these twitter messages have no value compared to victims dieing statement 

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