zen Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) Key concerns/opportunities for various teams: MI: Improve death bowling. May be use Boult's 3 overs in the first 10 to go for wkts. Pattison for death overs w/ Bumrah RCB: Have a few good batsmen and bowlers so over dependent on them to give good to great games. Maybe consider giving Moeen a few games to see if he is shaping up well as that can add a match winner to its lineup. Zampa can be tried in place of Finch, unless RCB believes that his good patch is around the corner, to strengthen the spin attack DC: Batting. One way to counter it is to strengthen the bowling further by playing Rabada-Norjke-Sims combination, which means play one from Stonis and Hetmyer K11: SImilar to RCB but with an inform spin attack. Agarwal's comeback will add some teeth to its batting KKR: Need the key players to find form. Maybe use DK down the order (or even opening) RR: Do not have too many options in the squad so would need to leverage on its big match winners. Consider Markande in place of Rajpoot to strengthen spin attack or Aaron if fit SRH: Similar to DC. Batting would need to improve CSK: No comments Edited October 26, 2020 by zen coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 DC batting is in the worst phase, Shaw out of contention, Rahane is a walking first over wicket. Shreyas Iyer should open with Dhawan. Hide Rahane at 5 or opt for another batsman. RCB is having 4 batsman and relying on Gurkeerat, they need a big hitting finisher, Dube is not that guy. MI has checked all their problems seems to be the team with 0 weaknesses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: DC batting is in the worst phase, Shaw out of contention, Rahane is a walking first over wicket. Shreyas Iyer should open with Dhawan. Hide Rahane at 5 or opt for another batsman. RCB is having 4 batsman and relying on Gurkeerat, they need a big hitting finisher, Dube is not that guy. MI has checked all their problems seems to be the team with 0 weaknesses I will bring back Shaw and have him open with Dhwan. Might fail next game but he will click. We need someone who plays shots at the top and Shaw does that. He had 3 poor games in the middle but before that showed some form. I think we need to back Shaw instead of playing Rahane. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) Now, it seems like even DC has to win both matches against MI/RCB, if they win 1, they are same as KXIP/KKR winning both matches. Also, there could be 5 teams on 16 if KXIP and KKR with both matches and top three lose to SRH, while have a rotation of losses MI losing to DC & beating RCB , DC beating MI and losing to RCB and RCB beating DC and losing to MI. That will be a neat NRR script for IPL2020. If KXIP lose to CSK and win against RR (RR are out), KKR loses to KKR and beats CSK, SRH beats both MI and RCB, there will be three teams on 14 and in that case, SRH will be ahead on NRR. Edited October 27, 2020 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Now, it seems like even DC has to win both matches against MI/RCB, if they win 1, they are same as KXIP/KKR winning both matches. Also, there could be 5 teams on 16 if KXIP and KKR with both matches and top three lose to SRH, while have a rotation of losses MI losing to DC & beating RCB , DC beating MI and losing to RCB and RCB beating DC and losing to MI. That will be a neat NRR script for IPL2020. If KXIP lose to CSK and win against RR (RR are out), KKR loses to KKR and beats CSK, SRH beats both MI and RCB, there will be three teams on 14 and in that case, SRH will be ahead on NRR. Mentioned such types of scenarios in the OP: Quote In good position (Target 16 points & maybe better NRR w/ 1 win in remaining 3 games): DC - remaining games v SRH, MI & RCB DC could be losing momentum so needs to play better In decent position (Target 14 to 16 points): KKR - remaining games v K11, CSK & RR K11 - remaining games v KKR, RR & CSK Both of them can qualify if DC remains on 14 and these two get 16 PS For RR to qualify (without NRR) Quote RR v MI tomorrow. For RR to qualify: Win all its games (points 14) KKR loses all its games (points 12) K11 wins 1 game, i.e. beats KKR and loses to RR & CSK (points 12) SRH wins not more than 2 games (points 8 to 12) Top 4 in above scenario - MI, RCB, DC & RR .... In a scenario where some of the other teams are on similar points, it would need a better NRR. If RR loses tomorrow, max available points after that game = 12 (so ....) Edited October 28, 2020 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 hours ago, zen said: Mentioned such types of scenarios in the OP: But, you don’t mention 5 teams could be on 16 points in the OP. This happened only because DC lost horribly to SRH today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: But, you don’t mention 5 teams could be on 16 points in the OP. This happened only because DC lost horribly to SRH today It is implied/understood from the DC, K11 and KRR scenario as after MI & RCB's game v RR & CSK respectively, they would have 3 games remaining too. As elaborated after CSK v RCB game: Quote CSK v RCB RCB lost an opportunity to move to the top. Probably played "laptop" cricket based on what happened in the last game (and being influenced by "matchups") rather than playing per the conditions. Interestingly, now both RCB & DC face similar opponents in their remaining games i.e. MI, SRH & DC/RCB After today's game v RR, MI too would face similar opponents - RCB, DC & SRH, therefore One group of matches will involve DC, MI, RCB & SRH .... The other group of matches will be among CSK, K11, KKR & RR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 MI in (barring some comical scenario) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 RR v K11 .... RR is still alive For "Group B", below is how the situation is M53: CSK v K11 M54: RR v KKR If CSK wins, the winner of M54 wins the the qualification battle. If K11 wins, M54 teams will have the NRR equation available to qualify For "Group A" M52: RCB v SRH M56: MI v SRH If RCB wins, winner of Group B would go through, along with MI, RCB & DC. If SRH wins, M56 will decide whether SRH or winner of Group B goes through Another scenario: If one of RCB or DC lose all its remaining games, both SRH and qualification winner of Group B could qualify based on NRR (if above RCB/DC) Cricketics and aditya19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) With SRH's win over RCB, we will not know who qualifies until the last game of the group stage. The 2nd last game, M55, will not only decide the #2 spot b/w RCB & DC but can also damage the losing team's NRR to throw it out of the top 4 Edited October 31, 2020 by zen SK_IH and The Dark Horse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 PS #1 (18-20 points): MI (confirmed) #2 (16 points): RCB or DC (confirmed but the loser could drop out of top 4 based on NRR) #3 & 4 (14 points): Open - RCB/DC, SRH, K11, KKR & RR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Horse Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) https://twitter.com/prasannalara/status/1322589637303431174?s=19 Edited October 31, 2020 by The Dark Horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) For fans on how other teams can impact their team’s chances (without worrying much about NRR): * RCB and DC (M55 - play against each other): win. if you lose, hope K11 (M53) or SRH (M56) loses * SRH (M56 - plays against MI): win the game * K11 (M53 - plays against CSK): win the game (assuming that it could be difficult for M54 teams to go past its NRR) * KKR and RR (M54 - play against each other): win and hope that K11 (M53) and SRH (M56) lose Edited October 31, 2020 by zen Cricketics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 4:10 PM, zen said: RCB: Have a few good batsmen and bowlers so over dependent on them to give good to great games. Maybe consider giving Moeen a few games to see if he is shaping up well as that can add a match winner to its lineup. Zampa can be tried in place of Finch, unless RCB believes that his good patch is around the corner, to strengthen the spin attack DC: Batting. One way to counter it is to strengthen the bowling further by playing Rabada-Norjke-Sims combination, which means play one from Stonis and Hetmyer DC (#2) and RCB (#3-4) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 For the records, SRH makes it (#3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 1:19 PM, zen said: The 8 teams are now divided into two groups: A: MI, RCB, DC & SRH B: RR, K11, KKR & CSK If it goes as per IPL script: the last games in group B i.e. RR v KKR & K11 v CSK (out but can play spoilsport) could decide the 4th place (if not 2 - possible if one of the top 3 teams remains on 14 as they play v each other and SRH, which may cause an upset) What a prediction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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