Adamant Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 19 hours ago, jalebi_bhai said: The only solution is Finch at 4 and ABD at 5 as finisher. Give Finch the absolute license to hit as he's struggling against swing up top. Kohli and AB can continue playing their roles. Finch did well in the middle order for Gujarat Lions a few seasons ago. With Kohli, Finch and AB in the middle order, Padikkal and Phillipe can play freely up top. Only one of Gurkeerat and Dube can play. The 3 seamers will have to be Morris, Saini(when fit) and Siraj. No point playing the extra overseas seamer if you don't have a batting line-up that can post par/above-par scores regularly. They should try the above in the games to come. Yeah no point of having extra overseas bowler and that too dale steyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 If kohli gets back in touch, rcb can still win this ipl. Just one link is missing and that is kohli at his best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutter Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Crap selection as usual by Kohli in the game against SRH, where the batting was further weakened. This must be the playing XI to have a chance against a desperate DC. Philippe Padikkal Kohli ABD Moeen/Finch* Dubey Morris Sundar* Siraj/Deshpande Chahal Saini Moeen should get the nod ahead of Finch, as his off spin will work well against the DC's left handers. If Finch gets picked, then Deshpande should be roped in as off spinner instead of Siraj as the additional seamer. Maybe the dibby dobblies from Dubey will also be useful for an over or two. *Moeen/Sundar should be floating to ensure that they play the middle overs ahead of AB, if the top order collapses. Still Virat's captaincy is always a worry, like with Team India. It was unbelievable to see Chahal not bowl out against SRH, when he seemed like the only wicket taking option. Instead the NRR crushing over by Saini happened SK_IH and diga 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Drive Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 AB should open instead of slow scoring top order batsmen in RCB. It's a shame that he has to bat below batsmen who are not even half good as him in this format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I posted this lineup in other thread too. Rcb should try this lineup 1.Devdutt 2.Kohli 3.Abdevilliers 4.Finch 5.Moeen Ali 6.Shivam Dube 7.Chris morris 8.Washington 9.Saini 10.Siraj 11.Chahal Devilliers will get more time, a change of position might help finch make a comeback and if he clicks rcb wont need anyone else. Moeen ali, dube, morris is a good lower order too. Jamadagni 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 27 minutes ago, Adamant said: I posted this lineup in other thread too. Rcb should try this lineup 1.Devdutt 2.Kohli 3.Abdevilliers 4.Finch 5.Moeen Ali 6.Shivam Dube 7.Chris morris 8.Washington 9.Saini 10.Siraj 11.Chahal Devilliers will get more time, a change of position might help finch make a comeback and if he clicks rcb wont need anyone else. Moeen ali, dube, morris is a good lower order too. Looks a fine team but Shahbaz bowled well today so he will get another game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 14 hours ago, Stutter said: Still Virat's captaincy is always a worry, like with Team India. It was unbelievable to see Chahal not bowl out against SRH, when he seemed like the only wicket taking option. Instead the NRR crushing over by Saini happened He had the wrong fielder at cow corner against Stoinis knowing very well that was Stoinis strength Stutter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK_IH Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 With Morris injured, RCB should pack their batting & try to bat out the opposition in the remaining 3 games. Mind you their Indian bowlers are all Indian internationals, so just trust their bowling skills & pack your batting. Padikkal Phillipe Kohli Finch Devilliers Moeen Ali Sundar Saini Umesh Siraj Chahal Gollum and Stutter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, SK_IH said: With Morris injured, RCB should pack their batting & try to bat out the opposition in the remaining 3 games. Mind you their Indian bowlers are all Indian internationals, so just trust their bowling skills & pack your batting. Padikkal Phillipe Kohli Finch Devilliers Moeen Ali Sundar Saini Umesh Siraj Chahal Umesh yadav! Not at all. Shahbaz will be a better option than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Adamant said: Umesh yadav! Not at all. Shahbaz will be a better option than him. Umesh Yadav may do well bowling in first innings,... but the dew in second innings will make him cannon fodder for opposition batsmen Edited November 5, 2020 by diga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutter Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) I'd go with this team for tomorrow, with Moeen replacing Udana and Saini replacing Shahbaz Philippe* Padikkal Kohli ABD Moeen Sundar* Dubey Morris/Steyn Siraj Chahal Saini - Philippe gets in ahead of Finch as he is close to hitting form & Finch will be potentially castled, when opening against Sandeep's swing. * Swap Sundar & Philippe in case of a >170 run chase - Float Sundar/Moeen, in case 2 wickets fall before ~8-10 overs; that would also help to deal Rashid's bowling better. - Play Steyn, if Morris is unfit; experience does help a lot in such big games & Umesh will be running in cold - Virat opening is a huge gamble, especially if he gets out after a crawl (+ Sandeep factor); besides no real anchors to hold the innings unless Finch is selected instead of Moeen But the above team by @SK_IH is very very compelling to pack the team with batsmen and hope for Indian bowlers, together with Moeen, to be successful with the ball. I am not sure if the team management will take such a huge gamble ahead of the biggest game of the season. That would have been perfect for games#11-14 of the league stage, after being 7/10 at that stage. I see that the team has spent some time partying. I hope that helps to forget the loss spree, restart with a fresh outlook and #playbold! Edited November 5, 2020 by Stutter SK_IH and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 13 hours ago, Stutter said: Virat opening is a huge gamble, especially if he gets out after a crawl (+ Sandeep factor); besides no real anchors to hold the innings unless Finch is selected instead of Moeen Actually even if kohli doesn't open rcb openers usually crawl to a score of 40 in 6 overs so no risk in opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 ^ If Kohli opens, he has to bat entire 20 overs... There is no other anchor. Stutter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutter Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Adamant said: Actually even if kohli doesn't open rcb openers usually crawl to a score of 40 in 6 overs so no risk in opening. Fair point, but his crawl and/or any early loss of wicket will put way too much pressure in a KO game. Anyhow Philippe appears to be just about turning a corner and backing him to come good in a big game is reasonable. His innings in the BBL final mattered a lot, albeit in different conditions. His hitting against Zampa & Maxell was quite good. Probably the lack of experience and scars from previous losses (/chokes) might help DDP & Philippe to bat bravely & do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Drive Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 So many below par strike rate batsmen in lineup. Padikkal 124.80 Finch 111.20 Phillipe 110.0 Kohli 121.25 Dubey 122.85 Sundar 116.84 Daylight Tubelight Sunlight AB 158.74 RCB needs to work a lot during auction to pick better players who actually play like it's a T20 rather than ODI. Stan AF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Straight Drive said: So many below par strike rate batsmen in lineup. Padikkal 124.80 Finch 111.20 Phillipe 110.0 Kohli 121.25 Dubey 122.85 Sundar 116.84 Daylight Tubelight Sunlight AB 158.74 RCB needs to work a lot during auction to pick better players who actually play like it's a T20 rather than ODI. Parthiv would have done better than Padikkal overall. He hits out and gets out soon. Doesn't waste many balls. In the name of encouraging young talent, KKR and RCB have poured mud over their heads this season. Hope this gamble/bet on youngsters pays off for them in the coming seasons. Straight Drive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) Parthiv Patel has a career avg of 22 and strike rate of 120 in IPL, not sure why posters think on these slower wickets, he would have done a better job. He would have done same as Finch or Phillipe did throughout the tournament. RCB need a Pandya type hitter at 5 or 6. Dube is good for 15-20 runs max not 40-50. Edited November 7, 2020 by Majestic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutter Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 What a travesty! Putting Finch & ABD together and letting Rashid/Nadeem help themselves to a buffet. Some of these decisions are so fundamental that it makes one wonder how highly paid coaching staff/players go against the grain on some basic aspects of the game. One of the two lefties should have come in at #4 and it would have helped Finch anchor, whilst the leftie hit with the spin. The meltdown from the 11th match onwards was spectacular! Can't fault the management for the change in the 11th game to bring in Philippe, as the goal was to do better on Finch's results. But the lower middle with Mann/Dubey struggling & Kohli himself in a rut spelt the doom for the season. Anyways, another season down the drain, but after promising so much! During the off-season, the coach & the management should take a hard look at the squad. Out: Parthiv, Umesh, Steyn & Mann. Unsure about Finch at 4.2 Crore. Without Finch, that leaves about 8 crores back for new signings. Plus there was about 5.5 crores unused during the previous auction. What's needed are a couple of stable batsman for the top/middle order. - Martin Guptill at 1 crore would be a good fit at the top - Ben Cutting would also be an option, as he has been doing well in the T20 leagues & has been floating around the order with success - Try to get Chris Lynn from MI - Raina would be perfect, but he's unaffordable if his price stays at the 11 crore, which he was paid last season. Else we need another Indian player, who can manage the middle order situation => Karun Nair might likely be let go by KXIP & that might be an option for RCB to take him in & give him the room to develop. - Recruit some uncapped players and give them the responsibility => Shahbaz was impressive, but Pavan Deshpande did not get a chance at all => Rohan Kadam has been a good performer in the SMA trophy and he should be pulled into the squad for middle order hitting. As Kane Richardson is expected back next season, Steyn's gap can be filled there. Padikkal has been fantastic and his S/R will only get better with more experience. DDP, Saini & Sundar should be permanent in the RCB squad going forward. Captaincy will remain an issue, but I don't see the RCB owners wanting Virat to step down. His brand value is unfortunately way too much. Instead, I think the owners will do all that makes him comfortable with the hope that he finally succeeds in winning the IPL. Virat needs to be find the recipe to enable himself and the team to play to the team slogan of #playbold. diga and SK_IH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 ^ kohli & Nair dont exactly mix well .. better off persisting with Pavan or buying an overseas explosive middle order bat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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