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13 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Altogether 12 people have walked on the moon from 1969 till 1972. Each mission took about 400 plus engineers and countless support staff. Are the hoax believers saying all moon missions were fake or only the first one ? 
 

Ok if they hoaxed the ground crew, then wouldn’t the trajectory data , signals traveling from earth to a radar on the lunar or command module, the round trip delay etc have to be transmitted without them doubting?

are you thinking it can be faked. ? In modern technology, it can be done using radar jamming and also sending wrong data. I don’t think such techniques were available in 1969!

 

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How many people have been on the Moon?

A total of 12 male astronauts have landed on the Moon, all of whom were part of the US Apollo mission programme. These six crewed lunar landings occurred between July 1969 and December 1972. The following astronauts have been to the Moon (in order of setting foot on the lunar surface):

Apollo 11

Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin

Apollo 12

Pete Conrad, Alan Bean

Apollo 14

Alan Shepard, Edgar Mitchell

Apollo 15

David Scott, James Irwin

Apollo 16

John Young, Charles Duke

Apollo 17

Gene Cernan, Harrison Schmitt ”
 
 
Watch the first question.
 

moon landing hoax cannot be debunked by watching a video of tyson saying "its easier to go to the moon than faking it". Really? :rolleyes: I can see many scenarios where its easier to fake than going to the moon and I would make more sense than tyson. yes the moon hoax believers believe all missions to the moon is faked. you dont have to prove all missions were faked when you can point out just one and when some organization loses credibility, other so called achievements can be easily put away as trash. btw those photos in the op are not from one apollo mission. some of it are from later missions. so where are the telemetry tapes. they seem to be gone :lol:

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

moon landing hoax cannot be debunked by watching a video of tyson saying "its easier to go to the moon than faking it". Really? :rolleyes: I can see many scenarios where its easier to fake than going to the moon and I would make more sense than tyson. yes the moon hoax believers believe all missions to the moon is faked. you dont have to prove all missions were faked when you can point out just one and when some organization loses credibility, other so called achievements can be easily put away as trash. btw those photos in the op are not from one apollo mission. some of it are from later missions. so where are the telemetry tapes. they seem to be gone :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

He is the one atheist/scientist I like, man of science. I will listen to most of his theories and agree. He has a large number of liberal followers. Back in 2016, NASA located the tapes and has restored the moon landing videos. It costed billions of dollars to fund moon landing with hardly any returns. It was considered a waste of funds and hence stopped. Now, people don't want to fund NASA even for the Columbia/ISS missions. It would have been logistically impossible to involve the crew and all the 

people involved to pull a hoax. Even Russia could have done the same, if it is was possible. Why didn't they make hoax videos when they can easily collude and influence elections. 

 

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https://www.npr.org/2009/07/16/106637066/houston-we-erased-the-apollo-11-tapes

"We're all saddened that they're not there. We all wish we had 20-20 hindsight," says Dick Nafzger, a TV specialist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland, who helped lead the search team.

"I don't think anyone in the NASA organization did anything wrong," Nafzger says. "I think it slipped through the cracks, and nobody's happy about it."

 

Just because they can't find the original tapes, is not evidence of a hoax. It goes back to logistics. They found 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11_missing_tapes#:~:text=The Apollo 11 missing tapes,well as telemetry) for backup.

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Although the researchers never found the telemetry tapes, they did discover the best visual quality NTSC videotapes as well as Super 8 movie film taken of a video monitor in Australia, showing the SSTV transmission before it was converted. These visual elements were processed in 2009, as part of a NASA-approved restoration project of the first moonwalk. At a 2009 news conference in Washington, D.C., the research team released its findings regarding the tapes' disappearance. They also partially released newly enhanced footage obtained during the search. Lowry Digital completed the full moonwalk restoration project in late 2009.

 

 

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55 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

 

He is the one atheist/scientist I like, man of science. I will listen to most of his theories and agree. He has a large number of liberal followers. Back in 2016, NASA located the tapes and has restored the moon landing videos. It costed billions of dollars to fund moon landing with hardly any returns. It was considered a waste of funds and hence stopped. Now, people don't want to fund NASA even for the Columbia/ISS missions. It would have been logistically impossible to involve the crew and all the 

people involved to pull a hoax. Even Russia could have done the same, if it is was possible. Why didn't they make hoax videos when they can easily collude and influence elections. 

 

 

Just because they can't find the original tapes, is not evidence of a hoax. It goes back to logistics. They found 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11_missing_tapes#:~:text=The Apollo 11 missing tapes,well as telemetry) for backup.

 

 

If something costs billions of dollars without any returns, why does its budget keep increasing every year. its like kedar jadhav getting 7 crore for playing dot balls when RRR is 13. and the next year he gets paid 10 crore. please dont quote wiki as a source. even pbs and national channels are in on it and youtube as well putting debunking videos when you search for hoax.

you have an issue like many others that you can't accept its all fake because you believed it to be true all your lives and to change your opinion has some earth shattering effect on you. There is a saying in elite chess that its harder to accept that you made a error, so you carry on playing like it was a great move resulting in a loss.

you are just answering individual questions but there is so many unanswered questions that is so blatant that nobody can answer. like the shadows in the picture where it appears that there is more than one light source, neil saying no stars but later astronauts saying you can see the stars, planets, megallanic clouds etc and countless other contradictions. if this doesnt convince you, nothing will.

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On 11/3/2020 at 12:51 PM, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

Don't tell me you haven't seen this video :p:.

 

 

 

 

So did anyone calculate the distance between earth and moon and factored it with time taken by carrier wave to reach and retun and difference between pause when President statement ends vs when Armstrongs statement starts

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53 minutes ago, mishra said:

So did anyone calculate the distance between earth and moon and factored it with time taken by carrier wave to reach and retun and difference between pause when President statement ends vs when Armstrongs statement starts

2.x secs if someone wants to factor it... The pause between Presidents speech and Armstrongs response is more than that including the decoding delay.  Dont see a problem there 

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4 hours ago, diga said:

2.x secs if someone wants to factor it... The pause between Presidents speech and Armstrongs response is more than that including the decoding delay.  Dont see a problem there 


Yes, true. But there are other issues discussed in that Amazon movie. Radiation, solar flares without an atmosphere, still photos to video feed discrepancies and rocket science not advanced enough for 60s. It is much more advanced now and even private investors like spaceX. I wish some private company invests in moon travel with some piece of moon in return. But who owns it anyway?

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10 hours ago, diga said:

2.x secs if someone wants to factor it... The pause between Presidents speech and Armstrongs response is more than that including the decoding delay.  Dont see a problem there 

why are you guys wasting your breath, more evidence you provide, is just more fodder for the conspiracy 'believers'.  Its no different than the Flat earth folks.  Its just a waste of time.  And our "real" bhau sees conspiracies everywhere, he even sees twigs and berries where they don't seem to be.  But that's a different obsession.  Whatever floats whoever's boat.  I'm not judging.

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14 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

 

It says there was a 1998 radiation accident in the space shuttle and astronauts were exposed to radiation at 350 miles from earth. There is no such accident recorded happening. 

 

https://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/tour/vanallen.html

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Humans have been affected by Belt particles, though not as severly as some people might believe. Space Shuttle and Space Station astronauts inside their crafts receive about 2? mRems of additional dosage each time they pass through the SAA. Over the course of a week, this adds up to 7 x 30 = 210 mRems which is just below the dosage you get at ground-level in a single year (about 350mRem). Apollo astronauts, however, were forced to traverse the most intense regions of the Belts in their journey to the Moon. Fortunately, the travel time was only about 30 minutes so their exposures were not much more than the total dose received by Space Shuttle astronauts (TBD). This fact counters some modern speculations that the moonlandings were a hoax because astronauts would have instantly died as they made the travel through the belts. They may have experienced minor radiation poisoning if they had been in their spacesuits on a spacewalk, but no spacewalk was ever scheduled for these very reasons. The shielding provided by the Apollo space capsule walls was more than enough to shield the astronauts from all but the most energetic, and rare, particles. Still, the astronauts reported seeing 'shooting stars' (TBD?). These were caused by very energetic particles streaking through the fluid in the eye and leaving behind a luminous, but fleeting, trail of light. Similar streaks have ben reported by astronauts in the Space Shuttle and other near-earth missions during solar storms. It is not known what the long-term consequences of these kinds of brief exposures are upon astronauts, but prospective travelers to Mars will no doubt see many more of them!

 

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10 hours ago, sandeep said:

why are you guys wasting your breath, more evidence you provide, is just more fodder for the conspiracy 'believers'.  Its no different than the Flat earth folks.  Its just a waste of time.  And our "real" bhau sees conspiracies everywhere, he even sees twigs and berries where they don't seem to be.  But that's a different obsession.  Whatever floats whoever's boat.  I'm not judging.

lol why are you wasting your breath on this thread if I see something you don't believe. then you go ahead and quote you're not judging :lol: please youre making me laugh :rotfl: let others come to their conclusion on their own free will :dontknow:

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many people argue on the little things. if i point out about 10 inconsistencies, people will pick on the easiest one to debunk (debunk is a popular term on youtube and google these days) and say yes your theory fell apart there. but you havent covered the other 9 points which are hard to debunk. what about the contradiction about stars in space. somebody explain this one

 

 

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