rkt.india Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 3 hours ago, express bowling said: I am surprised too. Tewatia looks almost ready for T20s atleast. I would like selectors to groom Abhishek Sharma as a batsman who bowls spin. He will do good as 5th-6th bowling option. You need to identify some players for such roles and talk to them, make them understand what you are expecting from them and what needs to be done. This old selection method isn't going to work anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, rkt.india said: I would like selectors to groom Abhishek Sharma as a batsman who bowls spin. He will do good as 5th-6th bowling option. You need to identify some players for such roles and talk to them, make them understand what you are expecting from them and what needs to be done. This old selection method isn't going to work anymore. Abdul samad is the guy specially when we are looking at 6th n 7th batting position , Abhishek looks more of a batsman who loves to time the ball whereas samad use brute strength. Abhishek will enjoy batting up the order like he does for Punjab . Abdul shud be taken in A team straight away even though he hasnt done much in domestic but he looks like a game changer and he needs to be developed at higher level. Also his state side needs to be told to make him bowl around 10 overs every game so his bowling grows or else it will be a slow growth specially in J&K ranji side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 3 hours ago, express bowling said: I am surprised too. Tewatia looks almost ready for T20s atleast. they wont dump jaddu , even if they do they ll god for axar, krunal, sundar . All tewatia can do is have another stellar IPL season or else he ll be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 7:17 PM, TNAmarkFromIndia said: You want to pack our team with all-rounders but that would backfire more often than not. Pandya and Jadeja come off once in 15-20 games. Then when our team gets bundled out, you'll curse the weak batting line-up. Pandya and Jadeja are both No. 7s at best. You can't play them both, and if you do, you'll have to drop one bowler. Right now, Pandya is not even bowling. You really think he will bowl 10 overs all of a sudden? And anyways he was never even a good bowler to bowl 10 overs. I think if Pandya focusses on his batting more, he can be a 35 averaging 120 S/R type batsmen and could be used as sixth bowling options. It is a risk and right now with him not bowling, it only makes sense for him to become a more consistent batsmen because with bowl, he will anyways be trundling at 120 kph once he starts bowling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 11/7/2020 at 1:47 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said: Abdul samad is the guy specially when we are looking at 6th n 7th batting position , Abhishek looks more of a batsman who loves to time the ball whereas samad use brute strength. Abhishek will enjoy batting up the order like he does for Punjab . Abdul shud be taken in A team straight away even though he hasnt done much in domestic but he looks like a game changer and he needs to be developed at higher level. Also his state side needs to be told to make him bowl around 10 overs every game so his bowling grows or else it will be a slow growth specially in J&K ranji side. Samad's bowling is strictly part time. Banton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNAmarkFromIndia Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 17 hours ago, Majestic said: I think if Pandya focusses on his batting more, he can be a 35 averaging 120 S/R type batsmen and could be used as sixth bowling options. Pandya is not a No. 6. You need a proper bat at that position. Pandya is good for cameos, but he comes off once in 15-20 matches. He's more like a Yusuf Pathan, and even Yusuf wasn't a No. 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said: Pandya is not a No. 6. You need a proper bat at that position. Pandya is good for cameos, but he comes off once in 15-20 matches. He's more like a Yusuf Pathan, and even Yusuf wasn't a No. 6. Absolutely guy is a strict no 7 & that should be his role too. Last 5-6 overs is the time when we need him. Jadeja can work at no 6 in ODI as he takes time & is better bat than Jadhav. SKY is also other option don't know about his chucking problem. Then the next in line is Nitish Rana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNAmarkFromIndia Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: Jadeja can work at no 6 in ODI as he takes time & is better bat than Jadhav. There are many batsmen in India better than Jadhav. No need for Jadeja at that spot. He isn't a No. 6 either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 4 hours ago, rkt.india said: Samad's bowling is strictly part time. 6th bowler has to be just part timer only, he has got control and bowls a googly as well just need more bowling thats it . We are looking at a power hitter not better bowler if that was the case Axar, jadeja was not even a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNAmarkFromIndia Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: 6th bowler has to be just part timer only, he has got control and bowls a googly as well just need more bowling thats it . We are looking at a power hitter not better bowler if that was the case Axar, jadeja was not even a problem If it was a part-timer we wanted, we already have Rohit Sharma. Sure he hasn't bowled in a long time, but a part-timer wouldn't get to bowl much either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said: If it was a part-timer we wanted, we already have Rohit Sharma. Sure he hasn't bowled in a long time, but a part-timer wouldn't get to bowl much either. when he doesnt bowl due to his shoulder issue then how is he even a part timer, when u dnt bowl u dnt bowl. Samad is a bit more then a part timer just needs to start bowling a lil more 6th bowler is just a cushion of 5 overs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 2 hours ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said: Pandya is not a No. 6. You need a proper bat at that position. Pandya is good for cameos, but he comes off once in 15-20 matches. He's more like a Yusuf Pathan, and even Yusuf wasn't a No. 6. pandya won MOS against Aus batting at 4 playing all matured knocks , he is good enough to go at 5 now just that team dont have anyone to do what he does at 7 And that certain yusuf pathan did better in Sa then many and he wasnt as good a player of fast bowling as hardik is If u bat at 7 most life ur career will have cameos only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said: There are many batsmen in India better than Jadhav. No need for Jadeja at that spot. He isn't a No. 6 either. do those batsman bowl ? jadeja is fine at 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 7:17 PM, TNAmarkFromIndia said: You want to pack our team with all-rounders but that would backfire more often than not. Pandya and Jadeja come off once in 15-20 games. Then when our team gets bundled out, you'll curse the weak batting line-up. Pandya and Jadeja are both No. 7s at best. You can't play them both, and if you do, you'll have to drop one bowler. every team is packed with all rounders - look at NZ- CDGH, Neesham, Santner pandya n jadeja bat at such position that they get rare chances and when they do they have to hit only, neways jadeja never was no.7 product he is better batting above When ur team bundled last in Semi it was hardik n pant who 1st had a partnership and then jadeja and before that in 2017 Ct it was pandya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 2:58 PM, TNAmarkFromIndia said: Since our 4 and 5 seems to be set (for now) with Iyer and Rahul, would you like to see Kishan given a shot at No. 6? Samson is inconsistent and Pant seems to have lost his form. and what go with just 5 bowlers, team around the wold have 6-7 bowling options now and we are going with 5. What if someone has a bad day or gets injured Remeber Wc when bhuvi pulled out in pakistan game hardik got injured in NZ game and somehow trundled and finished his overs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 2:58 PM, TNAmarkFromIndia said: Since our 4 and 5 seems to be set (for now) with Iyer and Rahul, would you like to see Kishan given a shot at No. 6? Samson is inconsistent and Pant seems to have lost his form. also in t20 realyy ? how much batting do u need in a 20 over game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNAmarkFromIndia Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: when he doesnt bowl due to his shoulder issue then how is he even a part timer, when u dnt bowl u dnt bowl. His shoulder issues have nothing to do with not bowling. Virat Kohli just doesn't prefer to bowl from part-timers. He did from Jadhav because he proved to be a golden arm. Rohit said in an interview this May that he is prepared to bowl 10 overs in Test matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 In ODI cricket batting unit is settled. We just need some urgency in Powerplay. Our last ODI series loss was in NZ clean sweep actually. Pacers were thrashed & Spinners both Chahal & Kuldeep were mauled. Bowling is a issue in ODI for us. Before that WI also chased 320+ vs us. Kishan can work in T20I as Pant is not playing. Drop Iyer or Pandey & bring him in. A left hander in middle order is what we are lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNAmarkFromIndia Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: pandya won MOS against Aus batting at 4 playing all matured knocks He played only one match at No. 4 in that series. And if you want to go that far back, you could still make a case for Kedar Jadhav who was Man Of The Series against England that same year. He solves your part-timer problem too. Do you want Kedar Jadhav? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNAmarkFromIndia Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 39 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: do those batsman bowl ? Anyone can bowl a few part-time overs. 40 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: jadeja is fine at 6 No he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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