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3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:


You have to understand Kaneda first. Immigration of Indians and Sikhs in particular have started since early 1900s and robustly since 50s and 60s. More so after 1984 many went alienated and the Khalustani movement started there. They took advantage of 1984 and they are a big political force. Canadian politicians especially non-conservatives use them as vote banks. They openly criticize India on Khalistan defence and have photoOps with terrorists. Jagmeet Singh Doesn’t want to call Kanishka bombers as terrorists, Justin Trudeau comes to India on a political rally to gain votes, doesn’t meet India Govt leaders, but goes on to do Bhangra with his Punjabi chums. A lot regular Sikhs don’t feel awkward supporting Khalsa rallies , even Kanedian army too, where a huge presence of Khalistani supporters get on stage and abuse India and Hindus. 

 

Yes and we will hold these Khalistanis to account.

As per 2011 Census, there are 468,000 Sikhs in Canada and 497,000 Hindus in Canada. We are organizing as a political force, especially since Khalistani terrorist supporter Jagmeet Singh has come to the fore in Canadian politics. The gap between Sikhs and Hindus have steadily diminished in terms of numbers and Hindus for the first time ever became more numerous in Canada than Sikhs around 2009. Now a decade later, that gap has only widened. 

Sooner or later, the rest of Canadian society will realize we are the bigger vote bloc than Sikhs and we are the ones who are ahead of them in finance, tech and such high earner sectors. Sikhs in Canada are basically rich if and only if they are businessmen- rest are middle class farmers, truckers, border security etc kinda jobs holders.

 

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20 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:


You have to understand Kaneda first. Immigration of Indians and Sikhs in particular have started since early 1900s and robustly since 50s and 60s. More so after 1984 many went alienated and the Khalustani movement started there. They took advantage of 1984 and they are a big political force. Canadian politicians especially non-conservatives use them as vote banks. They openly criticize India on Khalistan defence and have photoOps with terrorists. Jagmeet Singh Doesn’t want to call Kanishka bombers as terrorists, Justin Trudeau comes to India on a political rally to gain votes, doesn’t meet India Govt leaders, but goes on to do Bhangra with his Punjabi chums. A lot regular Sikhs don’t feel awkward supporting Khalsa rallies , even Kanedian army too, where a huge presence of Khalistani supporters get on stage and abuse India and Hindus. 

I personally know zero sikhs who abuse Hindus and zero Hindus who abuse sikhs. This is an econoic issue and not religious. Indians are not stupid and they can see thru this khalistani angle. 

 

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Just now, Khota said:

I personally know zero sikhs who abuse Hindus and zero Hindus who abuse sikhs. This is an econoic issue and not religious. Indians are not stupid and they can see thru this khalistani angle. 

 

Come to Kaneda or UK, you will find a lot. I have lived in Kaneda for a couple of years

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2 hours ago, Khota said:

I personally know zero sikhs who abuse Hindus and zero Hindus who abuse sikhs. This is an econoic issue and not religious. Indians are not stupid and they can see thru this khalistani angle. 

 

Great point. Many of my Real Estate clients are Hindu Punjabis, we just have nothing but mutual respect & understanding for each other. This whole Khalistani involvement crap is just to divert the attention of the non-Sikhs in India from this 'Jann Andolan' which is going against the Jumla party. Already Hindu farmers votes GONE for this Bhakt party, no amount of lies will do any damage control, this recent SC drama has made the common man more angry towards this ruling party. 

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1 minute ago, Under_Score said:

Great point. Many of my Real Estate clients are Hindu Punjabis, we just have nothing but mutual respect & understanding for each other. This whole Khalistani involvement crap is just to divert the attention of the non-Sikhs in India from this 'Jann Andolan' which is going against the Jumla party. Already Hindu farmers votes GONE for this Bhakt party, no amount of lies will do any damage control, this recent SC drama has made the common man more angry towards this ruling party. 

Funny thing, bhakts know all this but still don't want to come out of fools paradise.  Still they are taking daily doses of godi media.:giggle:

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26 minutes ago, Under_Score said:

Great point. Many of my Real Estate clients are Hindu Punjabis, we just have nothing but mutual respect & understanding for each other. This whole Khalistani involvement crap is just to divert the attention of the non-Sikhs in India from this 'Jann Andolan' which is going against the Jumla party. Already Hindu farmers votes GONE for this Bhakt party, no amount of lies will do any damage control, this recent SC drama has made the common man more angry towards this ruling party. 

Some people are trying to divide hindus and sikhs along religious line. Do not take the bait.

 

This is an economic issue.

 

A Hindu/Muslim/Sikh at the end of the day is a farmer. He has toiled in his field for 10 hours and still not sure he can feed his family.

 

What does govt. want from him? How much more can he give?

 

The economic disparity needs to stop.

 

India cannot be an oligarchy.

 

Someone needs to bring to SC attention that Dr. Gulati is the author, a very compromised person. He along with three others are govt. puppets not honest brokers.

 

Conflict of interest.

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12 minutes ago, Clarke said:

So BJP/NDA gonna get smashed in 2024 after destroying livelihoods of 57% of working population ? If not, there's the EVM excuse at the end of the day.

And Ambani and Adani funded the election "excuse". 

 

It is becoming comedical to see these folks bringing "ambani and Adani" when they have nothing concrete to debate. Oh Ambani will take over that, Adani will take over this etc just to keep the gullible people interested.  

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4 minutes ago, Khota said:

Some people are trying to divide hindus and sikhs along religious line. Do not take the bait.

 

This is an economic issue.

 

A Hindu/Muslim/Sikh at the end of the day is a farmer. He has toiled in his field for 10 hours and still not sure he can feed his family.

 

What does govt. want from him? How much more can he give?

 

The economic disparity needs to stop.

 

India cannot be an oligarchy.

 

Someone needs to bring to SC attention that Dr. Gulati is the author, a very compromised person. He along with three others are govt. puppets not honest brokers.

 

Conflict of interest.

Yes, it is an economic issue. 

 

Economic issue wherein Union govt cannot subsidise every famer  with MSP. SImply there is not enough money to do that.

 

Economic issue where farmers must not lose out if govt cannot subsidise them, and farming sector should still be lucrative. 

 

India cannot be "oligarchy" wherein small set of people dictate for everyone else. Other farmers except those who are beneficiaries should also find farming lucrative. 

 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, urbestfriend said:

And Ambani and Adani funded the election "excuse". 

 

It is becoming comedical to see these folks bringing "ambani and Adani" when they have nothing concrete to debate. Oh Ambani will take over that, Adani will take over this etc just to keep the gullible people interested.  

Lol.   Whole protest is against corporate and goverment nexus.

 

Definitely comical when modiji had to start promoting local toys suddenly after reliance takes over a global toy company.:phehe:

 

87000 crore loan defaulter is deshbhakt.:p:

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16 minutes ago, urbestfriend said:

Yes, it is an economic issue. 

 

Economic issue wherein Union govt cannot subsidise every famer  with MSP. SImply there is not enough money to do that.

 

Economic issue where farmers must not lose out if govt cannot subsidise them, and farming sector should still be lucrative. 

 

India cannot be "oligarchy" wherein small set of people dictate for everyone else. Other farmers except those who are beneficiaries should also find farming lucrative. 

 

 

 

(1) Agreed

 

(2) Agreed

 

(3) Agreed

 

(4) Agreed

 

On a serious not govt. does not have deep pockets where they can subsidize everything.

 

Govt. needs to priortize how to save money. 

 

I think farming is the best bang for the buck now and should be addressed after they address Air India and PSU's etc.

 

But farmers also need to understand they cannot be subsidized indefinitely.

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28 minutes ago, urbestfriend said:

And Ambani and Adani funded the election "excuse". 

 

It is becoming comedical to see these folks bringing "ambani and Adani" when they have nothing concrete to debate. Oh Ambani will take over that, Adani will take over this etc just to keep the gullible people interested.  

 

They are disproportionately getting rich.

 

A farmer lives in a gobar hut after working 10 hours a day.

 

Ambani lives in $1 Billion house (billion with 9 zeroes) after working the same number of hours.

 

Where is the fairness in the system?

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Dont play with words. The Modi bill is proving RIGHT NOW that under certain scenarios direct purchasing from the farmers will yeild farmers MORE, not LESS than APMC acquisition rate. So why are you ignoring this ???
It's just basic principles of free market economy..no science involved here..what are these fools arguing against
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5 minutes ago, Khota said:

 

They are disproportionately getting rich.

 

A farmer lives in a gobar hut after working 10 hours a day.

 

Ambani lives in $1 Billion house (billion with 9 zeroes) after working the same number of hours.

 

Where is the fairness in the system?

 

This is taken from a 1970s socialist movies like Namak Haram, or Ganga Ki Saugandh etc. . Try again, Next

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43 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said:
4 hours ago, Muloghonto said:
Dont play with words. The Modi bill is proving RIGHT NOW that under certain scenarios direct purchasing from the farmers will yeild farmers MORE, not LESS than APMC acquisition rate. So why are you ignoring this ???

It's just basic principles of free market economy..no science involved here..what are these fools arguing against

 

they are arguing against basic free market profit for simple farmers, because it upsets their ez govt embezzlemnt schemes of the rich punjabi farmers. Duh.

This is why gujjus, bongs, marathis, mallus are all SILENT on this fracas of the jutts, particularly the punjabis.  their racketeering uniongiri is chaupat, they have to actuall do some work on their own and not get free lunch while destroying their own goddamn eco-system.

 

Punjabis need a slap up their heads. The facking morons have gotten so fat off of growing rice in the ONE REGION OF INDIA NOT SUITED TO RICE  that they are the fastest desertifying state by a country mile.  They should fall down on BJP's feet and thank them for making all this rice monopoly chaupat, so their precious punjab doesnt go back to being a desertified backwater boonieville of India. Something it was, before the gradual irrigation schemes put in by the mughals and massively expanded by the Brits. If you notice- that region of India is the ONE region of India that is a total zero at empire building till literally less than 300 years ago. Since pretty much IVC fell nearly 4000 years ago!!

 

Such main, yeh gawaar santa singh-banta singh jaise sardar-bewakoofi misal ho gaye. 

 

The fat punjabi cat is eating itself and we need to whack it to stop. 

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54 minutes ago, Khota said:

 

They are disproportionately getting rich.

 

A farmer lives in a gobar hut after working 10 hours a day.

 

Ambani lives in $1 Billion house (billion with 9 zeroes) after working the same number of hours.

 

Where is the fairness in the system?

 

A fair system isnt equal outcome for all system. A fair system is, you get what your worth is seen by other people. Dude who makes space rockets is gonna make way more than a gardener who waters plants- something humans have been doing for thousands of years, is not a humongously complicated thing in life, doesnt take years of learning intensely. Granted, farmers are a lot more complicated than simple gardening but it slots somewhere near the bottom quarter of ''high demand skills' at generous best. 

 

You wanna be rich, you either gotta have a CRAP TON of farmland - like hundreds of acres or something- or go do something else. Its just that simple. 

 

To whine against that, is to basically say 'i dont deserve more but i want more so whine whine'. 

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