Gollum Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) Pant's misses on D1 changed momentum methinks, Smith is in beast mode once again, coming in at 49/2 in the 20th over would have been a different game. Edited January 9, 2021 by Gollum Laaloo 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 chances and both taken. 2nd one down the leg to dismiss Wade was good one. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 He’s been absolutely brilliant so far this match. And what a catch of Ollie pope. Brilliant reflexes. SK_IH, Mosher, express bowling and 1 other 4 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Excellent keeping by Pant so far today ... even to spinners. He is learning fast. As I thought, give him a full series in India as a keeper and he will come out a much better keeper. beetle, Laaloo, SK_IH and 4 others 7 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, express bowling said: Excellent keeping by Pant so far today ... even to spinners. He is learning fast. As I thought, give him a full series in India as a keeper and he will come out a much better keeper. If he had not been dropped for the specialist keeper Saha back in Oct 2019, by now he would have improved by leaps and bounds. These jokers did their best to destroy him, he grabbed the very first opportunity that came to him and since then has answered Kohli-Shastri through his performances Number, AuxiliA, Laaloo and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) Must be driving Ashwin crazy with all these drops. He has caught 1-2 off Ash since MCG and dropped 6-7....worse than Akmal-Kaneria. Must improve. Anyway he must be keeping to Ash (+ Axar, Mishraji) in DC nets....why is he so clumsy when Ashwin is bowling? Edited February 15, 2021 by Gollum Link to comment
Glory to india Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Saha is amazing glove work But no doubts Pant glove work in last 5 months has gone from poor to ok. Put that with his batting he excelelnt package. Hope his glove work can go from ok to good in next 18 months. Glove work will never be good as saha though Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Pant has improved a lot no doubt, especially love his work against quicks. Just hope that more he plays at home the better he gets against spin. His batting is so good that he doesn't need to be a Saha or Healy behind the stumps. If he can become ulta of Dhoni, excellent against pace and safe/unspectacular against spin will do us a lot of good. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Pant will improve.. Even Foakes missed a couple of stumpings & a catch & he is supposed to be best. He is a package & we know how good he is against pace & he has kept well on a tough pitch. express bowling 1 Link to comment
New guy Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Must be driving Ashwin crazy with all these drops. He has caught 1-2 off Ash since MCG and dropped 6-7....worse than Akmal-Kaneria. Must improve. Anyway he must be keeping to Ash (+ Axar, Mishraji) in DC nets....why is he so clumsy when Ashwin is bowling? Even Saha or Dhoni would have found that catch very difficult, it went off to his pads directly. Foakes missed exactly same kind of catch Edited February 15, 2021 by New guy express bowling 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, New guy said: Even Saha or Dhoni would have found that catch very difficult, it went off to his pads directly. Foakes missed exactly same kind of catch I support DC boy Pant, just want him to keep learning and improving. Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Broadcasters and commentators have decided that they will promote Pant's drops and Foakes' successes. Pant took 2 great catches and dropped a very difficult one. Foakes missed an easy stumping and a difficult catch and executed 2 stumpings. But Foakes is a genius and Pant is a nothing keeper. Oh the bias !! beetle, ShoonyaSifar, Mosher and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
RajBan Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, express bowling said: Broadcasters and commentators have decided that they will promote Pant's drops and Foakes' successes. Pant took 2 great catches and dropped a very difficult one. Foakes missed an easy stumping and a difficult catch and executed 2 stumpings. But Foakes is a genius and Pant is a nothing keeper. Oh the bias !! Actually Foaks has been phenomenal considering that this is the first time he is keeping in a pitch like this that too away from home. Infact his keeping has been at Saha level while also producing a gritty knock in first innings. Pant is improving as a keeper but purely on keeping he is indeed distinctly behind Foakes at this point. Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, RajBan said: Actually Foaks has been phenomenal considering that this is the first time he is keeping in a pitch like this that too away from home. Infact his keeping has been at Saha level while also producing a gritty knock in first innings. Pant is improving as a keeper but purely on keeping he is indeed distinctly behind Foakes at this point. I am looking at results and not at names. Foakes has missed quite a few too. Mosher 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, RajBan said: Actually Foaks has been phenomenal considering that this is the first time he is keeping in a pitch like this that too away from home. Infact his keeping has been at Saha level while also producing a gritty knock in first innings. Pant is improving as a keeper but purely on keeping he is indeed distinctly behind Foakes at this point. He has indeed.. Those chances were tough as well & the Broad's chance was impossible but that doesn't mean that Pant was not as good. I'll say Pant has kept better in this game. Foakes was great too.. But those two stunners clinch it for Pant. Though there is 2nd inns left still Mosher 1 Link to comment
Mosher Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) Ashwin makes a great point about backing and encouraging young talented players like how Australia hypes up and encourages their young talents. Here the captain himself, the coach, selectors and ex players never let any opportunity go put down young players in public to further their own agendas. Something which happened in case of Pant. Kohli, Shastri, MSK and few ex players criticized and amplified every small mistake that Pant did and added fuel to fire which resulted in some fans mocking Pant with Dhoni chants in the stadium. Pant came back stronger under such a stifling environment because he is mentally strong but other talented youngsters might not make it. This is where the role of coach and captain becomes so important in shielding them for any negativity and backing them to the hilt. Something which Ganguly was great at. Wish someone like Ashwin was the captain instead of Kohli in tests and Rohit in LOI's. Both are very supportive of youngsters. During various media interactions, Ashwin has made it clear how highly he rates Rishabh Pant, a man who in his short time with the national team, has managed to polarise opinions. “Okay, let me say this and I never thought I would say this. About two months back, there was a cricketer called Cameron Green, who made his debut for Australia. Even before he made his debut, everybody said that he was the ‘Next Big Thing’. “I think he got 150 runs in the entire series (vs India) and didn’t get a wicket, but how much he was rated and built up (hyped) made me reflect how we as a community treat our cricketers. It gave me a massive perspective. But Ashwin still is unable to understand why people start nitpicking those who have reached a stage. “They play for the country and at times, it feels you know that we are searching as to what’s wrong with them. Rishabh Pant was always going to be a good cricketer and was always going to improve. “Only if we back them in such a way that we want them to improve, they will improve faster,” Ashwin said. It’s not Pant who needs to change, but all those who judge him. “…if we are going to find loopholes and faults, the cricketers are going to take that much longer. I think it’s more of a mindset issue for us and we should embrace how good a cricketer he is. “We tend to see a lot of negatives. If we see a lot more positives, we will see a lot more champion cricketers.” https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/ravichandran-ashwin-india-vs-england-2nd-test-pant-comments-7191408/ Edited February 16, 2021 by Mosher express bowling, beetle, GautiMaan and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, Mosher said: Ashwin makes a great point about backing and encouraging young talented players like how Australia hypes up and encourages their young talents. Here the captain himself, the coach, selectors and ex players never let any opportunity go put down young players in public to further their own agendas. Something which happened in case of Pant. Kohli, Shastri, MSK and few ex players criticized and amplified every small mistake that Pant did and added fuel to fire which resulted in some fans mocking Pant with Dhoni chants in the stadium. Pant came back stronger under such a stifling environment because he is mentally strong but other talented youngsters might not make it. This is where the role of coach and captain becomes so important in shielding them for any negativity and backing them to the hilt. Something which Ganguly was great at. Wish someone like Ashwin was the captain instead of Kohli in tests and Rohit in LOI's. Both are very supportive of youngsters. During various media interactions, Ashwin has made it clear how highly he rates Rishabh Pant, a man who in his short time with the national team, has managed to polarise opinions. “Okay, let me say this and I never thought I would say this. About two months back, there was a cricketer called Cameron Green, who made his debut for Australia. Even before he made his debut, everybody said that he was the ‘Next Big Thing’. “I think he got 150 runs in the entire series (vs India) and didn’t get a wicket, but how much he was rated and built up (hyped) made me reflect how we as a community treat our cricketers. It gave me a massive perspective. But Ashwin still is unable to understand why people start nitpicking those who have reached a stage. “They play for the country and at times, it feels you know that we are searching as to what’s wrong with them. Rishabh Pant was always going to be a good cricketer and was always going to improve. “Only if we back them in such a way that we want them to improve, they will improve faster,” Ashwin said. It’s not Pant who needs to change, but all those who judge him. “…if we are going to find loopholes and faults, the cricketers are going to take that much longer. I think it’s more of a mindset issue for us and we should embrace how good a cricketer he is. “We tend to see a lot of negatives. If we see a lot more positives, we will see a lot more champion cricketers.” https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/ravichandran-ashwin-india-vs-england-2nd-test-pant-comments-7191408/ We need intelligent and positive people like Ashwin at the helm. This is so good to read. Brilliant !! Mosher and beetle 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Mosher said: Ashwin makes a great point about backing and encouraging young talented players like how Australia hypes up and encourages their young talents. Here the captain himself, the coach, selectors and ex players never let any opportunity go put down young players in public to further their own agendas. Something which happened in case of Pant. Kohli, Shastri, MSK and few ex players criticized and amplified every small mistake that Pant did and added fuel to fire which resulted in some fans mocking Pant with Dhoni chants in the stadium. Pant came back stronger under such a stifling environment because he is mentally strong but other talented youngsters might not make it. This is where the role of coach and captain becomes so important in shielding them for any negativity and backing them to the hilt. Something which Ganguly was great at. Wish someone like Ashwin was the captain instead of Kohli in tests and Rohit in LOI's. Both are very supportive of youngsters. During various media interactions, Ashwin has made it clear how highly he rates Rishabh Pant, a man who in his short time with the national team, has managed to polarise opinions. “Okay, let me say this and I never thought I would say this. About two months back, there was a cricketer called Cameron Green, who made his debut for Australia. Even before he made his debut, everybody said that he was the ‘Next Big Thing’. “I think he got 150 runs in the entire series (vs India) and didn’t get a wicket, but how much he was rated and built up (hyped) made me reflect how we as a community treat our cricketers. It gave me a massive perspective. But Ashwin still is unable to understand why people start nitpicking those who have reached a stage. “They play for the country and at times, it feels you know that we are searching as to what’s wrong with them. Rishabh Pant was always going to be a good cricketer and was always going to improve. “Only if we back them in such a way that we want them to improve, they will improve faster,” Ashwin said. It’s not Pant who needs to change, but all those who judge him. “…if we are going to find loopholes and faults, the cricketers are going to take that much longer. I think it’s more of a mindset issue for us and we should embrace how good a cricketer he is. “We tend to see a lot of negatives. If we see a lot more positives, we will see a lot more champion cricketers.” https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/ravichandran-ashwin-india-vs-england-2nd-test-pant-comments-7191408/ Bro, remember we were discussing about this Green promotion issue during the Aussie tour. Our cricketing fraternity are afraid of talking up Bumrah and Ashwin, forget about newbies. And they are afraid of calling even our 140 k+ pacers as fast whereas Aussies often try to pass off medium pacers as quicks. When will our cricket community learn to appreciate and promote our top players and top prospects !! Edited February 16, 2021 by express bowling beetle, Scarface, Laaloo and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Mosher Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, express bowling said: Bro, remember we were discussing about this Green promotion issue during the Aussie tour. Our cricketing fraternity are afraid of talking up Bumrah and Ashwin, forget about newbies. And they are afraid of calling even our 140 k+ pacers as fast whereas Aussies often try to pass off medium pacers as quicks. When will our cricket community learn to appreciate and promote our top players and top prospects !! Exactly bro. express bowling 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Mosher said: Ashwin makes a great point about backing and encouraging young talented players like how Australia hypes up and encourages their young talents. Here the captain himself, the coach, selectors and ex players never let any opportunity go put down young players in public to further their own agendas. Something which happened in case of Pant. Kohli, Shastri, MSK and few ex players criticized and amplified every small mistake that Pant did and added fuel to fire which resulted in some fans mocking Pant with Dhoni chants in the stadium. Pant came back stronger under such a stifling environment because he is mentally strong but other talented youngsters might not make it. This is where the role of coach and captain becomes so important in shielding them for any negativity and backing them to the hilt. Something which Ganguly was great at. Wish someone like Ashwin was the captain instead of Kohli in tests and Rohit in LOI's. Both are very supportive of youngsters. During various media interactions, Ashwin has made it clear how highly he rates Rishabh Pant, a man who in his short time with the national team, has managed to polarise opinions. “Okay, let me say this and I never thought I would say this. About two months back, there was a cricketer called Cameron Green, who made his debut for Australia. Even before he made his debut, everybody said that he was the ‘Next Big Thing’. “I think he got 150 runs in the entire series (vs India) and didn’t get a wicket, but how much he was rated and built up (hyped) made me reflect how we as a community treat our cricketers. It gave me a massive perspective. But Ashwin still is unable to understand why people start nitpicking those who have reached a stage. “They play for the country and at times, it feels you know that we are searching as to what’s wrong with them. Rishabh Pant was always going to be a good cricketer and was always going to improve. “Only if we back them in such a way that we want them to improve, they will improve faster,” Ashwin said. It’s not Pant who needs to change, but all those who judge him. “…if we are going to find loopholes and faults, the cricketers are going to take that much longer. I think it’s more of a mindset issue for us and we should embrace how good a cricketer he is. “We tend to see a lot of negatives. If we see a lot more positives, we will see a lot more champion cricketers.” https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/ravichandran-ashwin-india-vs-england-2nd-test-pant-comments-7191408/ Here is the clip. That's what you want from a leader or captain. Kohli is worst at managing or promoting a young talent. express bowling, beetle, Mosher and 1 other 4 Link to comment
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