zen Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, maniac said: Chill bro irrational hate is the opposite of being a hardcore fan boy. Love > Hate :) There is no hate for Tendulkar but people are only giving a contrary opinion and pointing out the behavior (cowardly at times) of some of his fanboys Edited January 14, 2021 by zen kaptaan, Laaloo and Rasgulla 1 2 Link to comment
New guy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 10 hours ago, zen said: Vinoo Mankad used to sleep outside the stadiums to play cricket, inspiring cricketers ... the 4 great spinners created a culture for spinners .... Gavaskar, Kapil, along with others in the team of 80s, have touched millions .... Dhoni continues to make an impact on youngsters and cricketers ... and here we again see a blind spot for the contributions of others and incorrectly attempting to attribute such commonalities to one player sachin came at the perfect time of advertising and capitalism boom. I think that's what OP is trying to say. Before him Kapil was the super star but most of his time was in the radio age. Sachin was plastered on every screen with the TV and media boom and was young enough for a young indian population to identify with. A generation of Indians became obsessed with him. It was also the perfect time when india was moving from abject times to a better time, so there was a feeling of hope which combined with nationalistic feeling. It was a perfect combination of many different factors and timings which caused the fan following of Sachin. The previous players just missed that. The next set of superstars continued from that. But there is no doubt the big boom of sponsorships and media attention started with Sachin GoldenSun, maniac and kaptaan 1 2 Link to comment
maniac Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 Good work mods raki05, Laaloo and Rasgulla 2 1 Link to comment
New guy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, zen said: There is no hate for Tendulkar but people are only giving a contrary opinion and pointing out the behavior (cowardly at times) of some of his fanboys weird how contrary opinions happen with you every SINGLE time. As if sachin is the worst player ever. How does that saying go? Before complaining about the speck in your brothers eyes, remove the beam in yours? I disagree about the fan behavior, most of the times its just a reaction to irrational hatred towards one of our biggest legends Edited January 15, 2021 by New guy kaptaan and GoldenSun 1 1 Link to comment
Norman Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 What a toxic thread! Rasgulla, Cricketics and Laaloo 3 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, maniac said: Good work mods Not good, my post in support of the thread with no abuses, was also removed . Why? Then there is exchanges between Laaloo and Zen retained. I Protest Why was it moderated, anway? We want to show how Sachin in a saree is used to mock him. maniac, raki05 and Laaloo 3 Link to comment
zen Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, New guy said: weird how contrary opinions happen with you every SINGLE time. As if sachin is the worst player ever. How does that saying go? Before complaining about the speck in your brothers eyes, remove the beam in yours? I disagree about the fan behavior, most of the times its just a reaction to irrational hatred towards one of our biggest legends My position has always been clear that Sachin is one of the best (among my favorites too) but there are players that are as good or better than him. My difference of opinion is with those who try to hype up Sachin to portray him as the best while constantly trying to undermine other greats. My opinion with respect to inspirational sportsman is similar too as posted earlier. Here too is a thread that tries to portray him as someone well beyond anyone else irrespective of his performances (which are like others therefore the need for such threads) I am also against the portrayal of individuals as Gods (not just Sachin), building their temples and so on. If individuals are unnecessarily hyped up (Is it marketing influenced by Sachin himself? We may not know) people will point always towards the other direction I have bigger favorite players too, who get attacked all the time here. I do not try to portray them as Gods Edited January 15, 2021 by zen kaptaan, Laaloo and Rasgulla 1 2 Link to comment
kaptaan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Cricketers inspired by Sachin... Dhoni, Viru, Yuvi Ashwin, VK, Rohit, Rayudu, Pujara, Rahane Shreyas, Vihari, Mayank Gill, Shaw, Jaiswal, Garg How many generations that is Laaloo, maniac, Rasgulla and 2 others 1 2 1 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Damn people got really triggered .... @ Maniac bro well done. kaptaan, Nikola, Rasgulla and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 15 hours ago, maniac said: lolwut? I thought responsibility is the word associated with paying taxes. Yes I have fulfilled my responsibility. has the govt used the money they got from taxes to create jobs or fed the poor homeless people. Why should I, a middle class man has to bear the burden of "charity". What have you done for charity. my guess is zero. so you are not one to talk. keep putting a cricketer on a pedestal. i'm surprised you haven't built a temple of Sachin in US. Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 10 hours ago, zen said: that Sachin is one of the best (among my favorites too) Dil pe kitna bada pathar rakh k ye bolna pada..... maniac and Muloghonto 1 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 15 hours ago, Gollum said: Bhai let us keep our Gods out of this. When we deify normal people, it invites mocking of our religion by others. relax bhai it was just for fun and not to big up sachin or make fun of our god, but ya got your point. Link to comment
zen Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Real McCoy said: i'm surprised you haven't built a temple of Sachin in US. that should provide more lol moments! Rasgulla and Laaloo 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Mariyam Posted January 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2021 I can't and won't get into the entire statistics over the greatness of Sachin. That has been done to death by his fans and detractors on this website. However, there are two memories I have of my childhood which are worth sharing. My father had just set up a factory sometime in the ealry-mid 90s. He always used to say that if Sachin were batting, he would have to give a break to all the workers. The TV was in a common mess room, and the toilet was across the mess. All the workers would suddenly find the need to relieve themselves at the very moment Sachin came on to bat. It became a way in which he bonded with his workers. Most of the workers were Maharashtrians. And this is the post riot Mumbai ( Bombay then!) with a huge trust deficit between the communities. Sachin was a unifier. Everyone loved him. And when Sachin scored and hit those boundaries, they all cheered together. Hindu and Muslim. Owner and Worker. Aside from Sachin, and to a lesser extent Dhoni, we haven't had a personality whom everyone would rally around. An aunt of mine had her Chiksa ceremony moved by a day! Why? Because Sachin was injured and was to miss some games in a tournament, but he came back early for one of the games. I don't really remember the circumstances. I was quite young, and I simply don't care too much for the cricket. So the ceremony was moved by a day. Because it was confirmed that Sachin was playing. Turns out he didnt bat well in that game but took a few wickets. We all laugh at this now. We joke about it, though its not funny at all. If a guy told me that he'd postpone a pre-wedding function to watch Sachin bat, I'd ask him to take a hike with my best possible smile. But those times were different. Sachin meant a lot to the nation. Probably still does. Sachin was a source of inspiration and hope to a whole lot of people in the country. In those troubled 90s, he was one of the few stories of individual success from India. maniac, Laaloo, sorak and 9 others 1 7 4 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Sachin fully deserves his God status. For one, even his contemporary rivals like Lara and Mark Waugh said they couldn't imagine batting under the pressure Sachin did, with 1 billion highly cricket crazy fans watching his every stroke, let alone been a great. Second, even people like Obama have been on record saying its inconceivable how ONE MAN playing cricket has a measurable impact on the ENTIRE Indian stock market, with stock activity declining by as much as 2% while he batted and rebounding with 1-2% zeal if he & india did well. Such a man, with so much influence, while being one of the quitest, most soft-spoken person and steering clear of any controversy, while being the ideal ethical role model for children ( as opposed the womanizing, philandering & partying types like Lara or Viv) is as close to being a God a human will ever come to. Mariyam and raki05 1 1 Link to comment
Mariyam Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Sachin's story makes one wonder. We as a society have given up on our systems to such an extent that only individual geniuses, who would no doubt have to slog through immeasurable difficulties to reach where they are, are always cherished ( as they should be), but the lack of systems in place to groom talent doesn't bother us. I think this is the broader point that @maniac was trying to get at. If you are gifted, you still needed to prove yourself at every level before you could make it big. People like Sachin have changed India's mindset to some extent. There is *some* institutionalisation of talent nurturing now from a very early age. Link to comment
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