Don't take England lightly

[R!TTER]

Just now, R!TTER said:

Cool stat, England only team to beat India after losing the toss both times in 2012 -

 

Opposition team India

Home or away away (home of opposition)

Start of match date between 28 Jun 2011 and 19 Jan 2021

Toss result lost the toss

Totals in terms of batting team

Grouped by overall aggregate

Ordered by matches won (descending)

Overall figures

	Teams	Span	Mat	Won	Lost	Tied	Draw	W/L	Ave	RPO	Inns	HS	LS
overall	8	2011-2019	22	2	18	0	2	0.111	23.05	2.80	43	523	79

 

Here's another one, guess what it shows -

 

Home or away away (home of opposition)

Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2001

Toss result lost the toss

Totals in terms of batting team

Ordered by matches won (descending)

Overall figures

Team	Span	Mat	Won	Lost	Tied	Draw	W/L	Ave	RPO	Inns	HS	LS
England	2001-2021	58	21	22	0	14	0.954	32.56	3.03	109	644	58
Australia	2001-2019	47	18	22	0	7	0.818	31.76	3.39	88	674	47
India	2001-2021	63	16	30	0	16	0.533	31.19	3.17	114	707	94
Pakistan	2001-2021	50	14	26	0	10	0.538	29.75	3.14	98	628	49
South Africa	2001-2019	45	12	20	0	13	0.6	30.87	2.76	82	637	73
New Zealand	2002-2020	36	9	18	0	9	0.5	29.12	3.11	65	624	68
Sri Lanka	2002-2020	39	7	21	0	11	0.333	31.14	3.17	74	760	101
West Indies	2001-2020	43	6	26	0	11	0.23	28.38	3.24	78	648	103
Bangladesh	2001-2020	32	2	28	0	2	0.071	22.70	3.11	63	638	43
Zimbabwe	2001-2018	10	1	9	0	0	0.111	22.92	2.76	20	542	68
Afghanistan	2018-2018	1	0	1	0	0	0	10.60	3.18	2	109	103

 

[sage]

Our Lankan friends are getting the English batsmen into the groove in the subcontinent 

[Gollum]

4 hours ago, R!TTER said:

Without Kohli's superhuman efforts that series we'd have lost 4-nil not sure what point you're making?

Whaaat? We dominated them man. Everyone was scoring 100s for fun. Anyway you expect your best batsman to make runs at home against halwa bowling. 

4 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Umesh is indeed a beast in India..  Second coming of Marshall here.  Hopefully he's fit.  Last time Poms played Ashwin really well.  It was Jaddu delivering killer blows.  We will blow them away if we have 70% of the attack present 

Ashwin didn't do well only in final test, few catches dropped off his bowling esp by Pappu. Tests 2-4 he blew them away, even got a 12fer in Mumbai.

This time our pace bowling will be much stronger. 

Edited January 15, 2021 by Gollum

[Real McCoy]

nobody is actually. england are one of the best sides right now to play competitively in the SC. It used to be SA and sometimes Aus. England were the last team to win a series in India

[Suhaan]

6 hours ago, RAZPOR said:

we need jadeja fit.

Jadeja is well and truly out of England series

 

[Bigg Brother]

These Crawley and Sibely guys are gonna do jack. Cricket in Britain is on decline. Bairstow has played 70 tests still averages 34. The main thing to worry about is their long batting line up, everyone can chime in with few runs. Otherwise neither their bowling nor batting are at same level to 2012-13 tour where they defeated us.

[MechEng]

3 hours ago, Gollum said:

Whaaat? We dominated them man. Everyone was scoring 100s for fun. Anyway you expect your best batsman to make runs at home against halwa bowling. 

Ashwin didn't do well only in final test, few catches dropped off his bowling esp by Pappu. Tests 2-4 he blew them away, even got a 12fer in Mumbai.

This time our pace bowling will be much stronger. 

 

I rate Broad and Anderson very highly. Most mature bowlers in world cricket right now proven by their skills in setting up batsmen on any pitch.

 

Especially Broad, always felt like he would bowl a spell where he would take 5 wickets for 10-14 runs.

[Soldier]

Lool look at the lineup that England faced. Look at the bowling in 2011. We had a geriatric team. All the oldies retired right after. 

 

Now englund don't just have to play vs quality spinners. They will face a ruthless bowling machine of an attack. Good luck.

[Gollum]

Massacre loading, will make the 2019 RSA series look like a tight contest. Kohli will be super motivated and the gulf between the teams has only widened since 2016 series. 

[adi B]

I havent seen a better batting unit in India apart from England in recent past.

They sure are the biggest challenge for us at home 

[Frustrated]

5 hours ago, Gollum said:

Massacre loading, will make the 2019 RSA series look like a tight contest. Kohli will be super motivated and the gulf between the teams has only widened since 2016 series. 

Hope what u are saying turns out to be true.  I m little worried looking at the way Eng are hammering SL currently in SL. (And Eng also whitewashed SL 3-0 in SL in 2018).

[Soldier]

2 hours ago, Frustrated said:

Hope what u are saying turns out to be true.  I m little worried looking at the way Eng are hammering SL currently in SL. (And Eng also whitewashed SL 3-0 in SL in 2018).

Yea that's Lanka. Not India. 

 

 

[Soldier]

I would be surprised if England win even draw one game. Honestly. 

 

Unless we play a complet B team. Maybe then 

[neel roy]

1 hour ago, Soldier said:

I would be surprised if England win even draw one game. Honestly. 

 

Unless we play a complet B team. Maybe then 

No way as per reports all the following not playing will be fit. 

 

kohli

rahul

ishant

bhuvi

umesh

bumrah

ashwin

 

Plus we have the following  8 who will be fit fingers x. 

 

Gill
pujara

mayank

rohit

Shaw

rahane

siraj

Kuldeep 

 

Do u think with the 15 players above we will still struggle? Thats a 15 member squad anyways

Basically 3 miss out Jadeja, Shami and Vihari. Vihari anyways wouldnt have got a  chance. Jadeja might be back in 3rd test. Shami is doubtful but hope Siraj can take his role. Anyways other than pink ball test we wouldn’t play 3 pace bowlers. Bumrah Ishant Siraj will be enough for that test

Edited January 16, 2021 by neel roy

[Suhaan]

For me Jadeja,Shami are one of the biggest blows

Shami with his quick reverse swing and the ability to devour an entire lineup would have been so precious to take down the long line up of England

And Jadeja the less said the better,he is irreplaceable in Tests more so in SC

His contribution with the bat at 6,7 and his ability to put unrelenting pressure on batsmen with Ashwin is something hard to replace

England will be very happy to not see them taking field this time around

[R!TTER]

10 hours ago, Gollum said:

Massacre loading, will make the 2019 RSA series look like a tight contest. Kohli will be super motivated and the gulf between the teams has only widened since 2016 series. 

Ashwin's not 100% atm, at least right now, we have no MVP in Jadeja & possibly Shami as well. You cannot overstate how important the last two are for our chances, especially if a lot of things go Eng way. Realistically speaking, when you're least expecting it surprises or upsets happen then the most. Now I'm not saying the TM would be doing the same but a few missteps, wrong selections, dropped catches & it could all go awry very quickly!

[Gollum]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

For me Jadeja,Shami are one of the biggest blows

Shami with his quick reverse swing and the ability to devour an entire lineup would have been so precious to take down the long line up of England

And Jadeja the less said the better,he is irreplaceable in Tests more so in SC

His contribution with the bat at 6,7 and his ability to put unrelenting pressure on batsmen with Ashwin is something hard to replace

England will be very happy to not see them taking field this time around

They might be back by 3rd test. Anyway our depth is so good now that we can easily cover these injuries especially at home. Will be good to see Bumrah have a bowl in Indian conditions (he is yet to play a test at home!!!), him, Ishant, Umesh, really potent unit. If Umesh isn't fit I think even playing Nattu in his place can be an option for variety...guys like Fizz/Vaas have great home record and no reason why Nattu can't be groomed for that role, not like Siraj/Saini are the only back-ups.  

 

Jaddu is a miss but it will be an opportunity for Kuldeep/Nadeem to make their mark. Ashwin is 34 and his body keeps breaking down, Jaddu is 32 and his all-format duties will make him more fatigued and possibly injury-prone, about time we start grooming their successors. Hopefully we look at these injuries as an opportunity to get next set of players ready. 

 

[Gollum]

We are frighteningly strong at home, so can do with a few new faces and experimentation. Many of our stalwarts are close to mid-30s, so some planning required for transition.

 

Hope Gill, Pant, Kuldeep, Bumrah play all matches. Yeah Bumrah as well, want to see how he does in India, whether he is as good as Umesh/Shami or not on these pitches. 

Edited January 16, 2021 by Gollum

[Ankit_sharma03]

Im excited to see siraj with SG red ball, i think he ll do really well with it. 

[RajBan]

3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Im excited to see siraj with SG red ball, i think he ll do really well with it. 

Same here. He has been a workhorse nd one man army for his domestic team. A line up of Ishant, Siraj, Umesh, Bumrah in India is as good as it gets.