Tendulkar1996 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 We will crush england,their spinners are trash.Just have to ensure no massive turning wickets.Simple flat slow indian wickets and they cant take 20 wickets. Rohit Gill Pujara Kohli Rahane Pant Pandya/Sundar Kuldeep Ashwin Ishant Bumrah Link to comment
cricketrulez Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 15 hours ago, RajBan said: That thread has been very effective to make a point rather than useless debates to prove somebody wrong. It was thread to stick it to Junaids and his enabler MIG. If you notice, MIG stayed away from the thread. * the $orkis Link to comment
GeeGaw Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 14 hours ago, Charlie_ said: this England team is ATG Not even close. They are ranked #4 right now so not even a current time great much less ATG. I swear the ICF brain trust gets dumber by the day. ViruDilSeKhelo 1 Link to comment
Prabhdeep Singh Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) India's Golden Period in Test Cricket started from November 2000. Only team that has better win/loss ratio against India is England so it is imperative India does well at home & away vs England this year. Edited January 22, 2021 by Prabhdeep Singh express bowling 1 Link to comment
Soldier Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Tendulkar1996 said: We will crush england,their spinners are trash.Just have to ensure no massive turning wickets.Simple flat slow indian wickets and they cant take 20 wickets. Rohit Gill Pujara Kohli Rahane Pant Pandya/Sundar Kuldeep Ashwin Ishant Bumrah Yea I don't see this team losing Link to comment
Soldier Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, GeeGaw said: Not even close. They are ranked #4 right now so not even a current time great much less ATG. I swear the ICF brain trust gets dumber by the day. Their bowling is quality to be fair. It's one of their best with Archer and broad. Batting is no joke either. Good blend of players. Root and stokes who are with ATGs. Good support players and possibly their bestw wicket keeper batsman. Look objectively and you will be surprised. This England team is quality. It's just that other teams like India and Australia have more quality. Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 15 hours ago, Tendulkar1996 said: We will crush england,their spinners are trash.Just have to ensure no massive turning wickets.Simple flat slow indian wickets and they cant take 20 wickets. Rohit Gill Pujara Kohli Rahane Pant Pandya/Sundar Kuldeep Ashwin Ishant Bumrah We desperately need a quality SLA and replacements for skiddy quicks Umesh/Shami. If we have those, we'll bury England. Link to comment
Prabhdeep Singh Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Play the following Vs England considering how they are playing SLA. R Sharma S Gill C Pujara V Kohli A Rahane R Pant A Patel R Ashwin K Yadav I Sharma J Bumrah Samcric 1 Link to comment
kohli Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Rohit gill pujara kohli rahane pant sundar axar/Kuldeep ishant/siraj bumrah sundar can play as batting all rounder & 5th bowling option. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 14 hours ago, Prabhdeep Singh said: Only team that has better win/loss ratio against India is England That's relatively easy to explain - India's played 21 tests in England vs 17 in India. Link to comment
Prabhdeep Singh Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, R!TTER said: That's relatively easy to explain - India's played 21 tests in England vs 17 in India. This is similar to Australia, played 24 tests in Australia 21 test in India however India's win/loss is better. So the argument is still valid. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Depends, As far as I'm concerned India's turnaround happens post 2001 Kolkata. You can ignore that or agree but since that time India's never been afraid of Oz, even with all the losses against their best ever sides - in that time India also has the best record vs Oz by far. If you'd ask me India is Oz bogey team, post 2011 Eng is ours especially in tests. It isn't a straight line as you think, our progression against different teams has had many peaks & troughs over the last 2 decades. Link to comment
Norman Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Root's form is scaring me a little bit now. Looking absolutely at home against Lankan spinners. Hope Ashwin keeps him in check like he did with Smith. With a weak second spinner option, it will be tough to contain him. Link to comment
GeeGaw Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 16 hours ago, Soldier said: Their bowling is quality to be fair. It's one of their best with Archer and broad. Batting is no joke either. Good blend of players. Root and stokes who are with ATGs. Good support players and possibly their bestw wicket keeper batsman. Look objectively and you will be surprised. This England team is quality. It's just that other teams like India and Australia have more quality. This supposed ATG team drew a series against PAK and came close to drawing the series against a terrible WI team; both home series. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Norman said: With a weak second spinner option, it will be tough to contain him. This is why we need our best pacers (in India) playing this game, of course they're not fit so maybe make the pitch just a tad more spin friendly - just a little bit like that Mumbai 2016 game, not like the Chennai one Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, GeeGaw said: This supposed ATG team drew a series against PAK and came close to drawing the series against a terrible WI team; both home series. But they've beaten SA away twice in that period in (2017 & 2020).. Also Lanka in 2018. If only they had a few decent spinners they'd pose a serious threat to us which isn't the case. Batting is actually fine. Link to comment
GeeGaw Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 ENG are a good side, my disagreement is with ranking them as an ATG side especially in test cricket. That kind of honor is reserved only for the likes of the 1980’s West Indies and late 1990’s early 2000’s Australia teams. An ATG team would certainly be the #1 ranked team in the world at the time and would be way ahead of #2. That alone disqualifies current ENG team from even sniffing ATG status. Link to comment
neel roy Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 22 hours ago, Tendulkar1996 said: We will crush england,their spinners are trash.Just have to ensure no massive turning wickets.Simple flat slow indian wickets and they cant take 20 wickets. Rohit Gill Pujara Kohli Rahane Pant Pandya/Sundar Kuldeep Ashwin Ishant Bumrah Axar Patel Anyday. Sibley Crawley all struggling against Embuldenyas left arm spin. Link to comment
ShebbySB Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Rohit Gill Pujara Kohli (C) Rahane Pant (Wk) Sundar (Jadeja will be missed and batting at 7 will be too high for Axar). Ashwin Kuldeep Bumrah Siraj (Would pick him over Ishant on current form). Axar and Ishant misses out and this team can bury England. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Samcric Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 If Indian spinners don't find a strategy for Root's sweeping and reverse-sweeping, it will turn into 2012 Kevin Pieterson again. He looks in prime form and will be a bigger challenge than Smith 2017. Given how Broad and Anderson are bowling, England's pacers may be the bigger challenge. Anyone who has seen the Sri Lanka series and wickets taken by Embuldeniya, knows that we need to have a left arm spinner. Would have ideally liked Nadeem but will have to do with Axar now. This series will be far tighter than we may have initially thought. Root, Broad, Anderson will be key. A few unknowns like Foakes, Leach, Archer as well. Link to comment
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