Serpico Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, putrevus said: No way he should be played over those three.He is not even a patch on those three players yet in odis. The only place he has is at number 4 if Iyer fails. Till then Gill should worry scoring runs in tests. If he does exceedingly well against England , they will find a spot for him. There is no rule that a guy like Gill needs to be given opening role in odis when India has two great openers.He has to earn it. how can he earn it if he is not given chances though? when kohli and rohit debuted in ODIs, dravid and ganguly both made 10,000 ODI runs and multiple centuries in icc tournaments.. but still they were dropped and benched to give youngsters a chance because its important to build team for next world cup. Having three 35+ players in the top order because of their past records is a recipe for disaster Edited January 23, 2021 by Serpico vaul 1 Link to comment
RajBan Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) Gill should bat at 3 if we want to kick-start a long term transition plan. Even 4 is fine but with Kohli for another 4 years it's not happening soon. I know it sounds atrocious with Pujara resurrecting himself and Gill also playing very well as a debutant opener in an away series in Australia, but if we don't plan now starting with home series in England, the real challenge will be during the away series later this year. Gill is not yet ready to open in England with his side play and away from the body shots. My take here is to get Pujara and Vihari to open in English conditions and allow Gill to come one down. We can still lose a wicket early with Gill literally playing as an opener, but with those two opening we have slightly better chance of letting Gill avoid the new ball to an extent. Not that Pujara or Vihari is sure to survive but they have inherently better discipline compared to Rohit and Gill at this point. If Vihari and Pujara can manage the first hour of play with 25-30 for no loss, then allows Gill, Kohli, Rahane, Pant , Pandya/Sundar(AR) to play positively . Heart says Rohit should sit out for the right balance of the team in England but mind says he will open and won't get dropped atleast for couple of tests to start with even if he does not score much. He will score in India , so dropping him will face lot of opposition. It's a difficult choice but based on English conditions and current abilities that's what looks to be best option. Edited January 23, 2021 by RajBan mancalledsting 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, RajBan said: Gill should bat at 3 if we want to kick-start a long term transition plan. Kohli isn't giving up on three, even though he's practically done * all at that position in all KO games of consequence. As for long term transition I doubt this happens under the current TM, they just have an insatiable itch to go against the grain & I'd argue common sense by doing shite stuff just for fun - 4 WK in a SF, dropping your most potent bowler for a trundler & of course his love affair with Chahal Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Serpico said: how can he earn it if he is not given chances though? when kohli and rohit debuted in ODIs, dravid and ganguly both made 10,000 ODI runs and multiple centuries in icc tournaments.. but still they were dropped and benched to give youngsters a chance because its important to build team for next world cup. Having three 35+ players in the top order because of their past records is a recipe for disaster I got mad stressing this fact so may times ... but .. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Soldier said: Love that idea. If pant gets going, he can single handedly destroy teams. plus a leftie with rohit n kohli is to their own advantage , someone like allows other 2 to play acc to their pace Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Better for the likes of Gill, Pant, even Kuldeep to comeback to LOIs only under a new captain, hopefully Rohit after the T20 WC (or maybe earlier than that another RCB flopshow in IPL 2021). Link to comment
vaul Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Those who say Gill is not an opener are same who wanted Shaw ahead of him.Since Shaw - a minnow basher -has failed miserably,they are desperately trying that anyone else should open as they cannot tolerate Gill's success. Link to comment
Sgattick10 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I am OK with Gill as opener Link to comment
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