prudent_kreeda Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 ODIs ----Openers ----1. Rohit / Mayank2. Dhawan / Gill .... prefer Gill as first choice In next 2 years - Need one player whose primary job is to play aggressively - Try Shaw & Samson, KL Looking at a player who can hit length deliveries /back up length deliveries on stumps and score runs . Also a good puller /cutter/Ramp shot player. Basically get runs against test match type bowling. Check if Pant has it in him to play in this role . Some out of the box thinking. Post Rohit /Dhawan era - My choices are Gill , KL ,Shaw Others to be tried - Samson. Padikkal , . Middle order ----3. Kohli / Gill4. Iyer / Pant .... prefer Pant as first choice Add Ruturaj /Padikkal . Need to find a place as opener slot is too crowded and do not want to lose them . Batsman-keeper ----5. Rahul / Pant Add in Ishaan /Prab simran Batting all-rounders ----6. Hardik7. Jadeja / Sundar ? Add in Abhishek Sharma Spinners ----8. Chahal / Kuldeep .... wrist spinners preffered Add Chahar /Axar/Varun /Bishnoi Believe all can make it from T20 to 50 overs as they are young . Fast bowlers ----9. Bumrah10. Shami / Saini Add Mavi/ Prasidh /Thyagi /Akash /Koti Swing bowler ----11. Shardul / Bhuvi / Natarajan Add Chahar/ Porel Link to comment
Majestic Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) Our batting should be:- Rohit Gill( he scores his runs at good rate during powerplays, it's after powerplays that he will get slower and by then Rohit will start scoring aggressively) Kohli Rahul Pant(wkt) Pandya Jadeja Edited January 23, 2021 by Majestic express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, prudent_kreeda said: TEST MATCHES ----Openers ---- 1. Gill / Shaw 2. Rohit / Mayank This is a very iffy opening pair in ENG & NZ and to some extent in AUS & SA . Should have atleast one opener who is a true opener and has good experience as opener in Domestic. . My vote is to test Eashwaran. or even move Puji to open and bring Gill to #3. I would love Pujara to open in SENA ... but will he ? Rohit's off stump game has improved ... so, Gill and Rohit may work in Australia and SA. How is Easwaran against quick bowling and swing bowling ? Any evidence that he can play either ? Quote Batsman-keeper ---- 6. Pant ... no proper back-up as Saha can't bat in the top 6 No choices but to test K Bharat & Ishan Kishan (esp. if he succeeds in 50 overs - should be groomed upwards for test) . Bharat seems to be the preferred backup now. But is his batting adequate against fast bowling ? Can he be a No.6 batsman ? Kishan maybe better. Quote Fast-medium Swing Bowlers / Bounce bowlers ---- ( needed outside Asia ... usually not needed in Asia ) 11. Ishant / Siraj Would like to groom Porel in this category. Yes ... can be done. He gets bounce and can swing the ball too. Quote Fast bowlers ---- 9. Bumrah / Umesh 10. Shami / Saini Add one more pair of Tyagi & Mavi. I would love to groom Tyagi and Mavi as soon as possible. And want Prasidh to be tried. Quote Specialist spinners ---- 11. Kuldeep / Nadeem. ( In Asia, in place of the swing bowler ) Would like to test one more test kind of Leftie -Saurabh Kumar . Looks crafty. Has good experience and good numbers in FC. - 44 matches - 192 scalps . Also add in Rahul Chahar. He has been added as a net bowler. Edited January 23, 2021 by express bowling Mosher 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 6 hours ago, express bowling said: TEST MATCHES ----Openers ---- 1. Gill / Shaw 2. Rohit / Mayank currently for next one year with SA n ENG tour we need to look at one more. The chink in mayank n shaw game will be badly exploited in those 2 places Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: currently for next one year with SA n ENG tour we need to look at one more. The chink in mayank n shaw game will be badly exploited in those 2 places Mayank and Shaw can't be tried in SA and England. Both need to work on their game. Shaw will get over his issues if he works on them ... not so sure about Mayank. If anyone of Gill or Rohit are missing or injured, the safest option is Pujara as opener in England and SA. Mosher 1 Link to comment
Majestic Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: Mayank and Shaw can't be tried in SA and England. Both need to work on their game. Shaw will get over his issues if he works on them ... not so sure about Mayank. If anyone of Gill or Rohit are missing or injured, the safest option is Pujara as opener in England and SA. Vihari can open in such case. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Majestic said: Vihari can open in such case. That would be a risky step. Pujara is the only other batsman who has the requisite skills to play the new ball in SENA. Mosher 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, express bowling said: Mayank and Shaw can't be tried in SA and England. Both need to work on their game. Shaw will get over his issues if he works on them ... not so sure about Mayank. If anyone of Gill or Rohit are missing or injured, the safest option is Pujara as opener in England and SA. yea or i dnt mind vihari also in england since he can grind it out, his short ball issues are there but its england Link to comment
Majestic Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, express bowling said: That would be a risky step. Pujara is the only other batsman who has the requisite skills to play the new ball in SENA. Not really. Vihari can play new bowl and he looked pretty compact in England last time. He will anyways not be part of first XI because Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Pant and Pandya(Jadeja if Pandya doesn't bowl) will be 3-7. So, if one of the two opener gets injured, I will replace him with Vihari, no need to make multiple batting position changes. Edited January 23, 2021 by Majestic Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: yea or i dnt mind vihari also in england since he can grind it out, his short ball issues are there but its england 4 minutes ago, Majestic said: Not really. Vihari can play new bowl and he looked pretty compact in England last time. He will anyways not be part of first XI because Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Pant and Pandya(Jadeja if Pandya doesn't bowl) will be 3-7. So, if one of the two opener gets injured, I will replace him with Vihari, no need to make multiple batting position changes. My impression is that Vihari has issues against the swinging ball and good channel balls. Mosher 1 Link to comment
QuarantineTormentino Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, express bowling said: That would be a risky step. Pujara is the only other batsman who has the requisite skills to play the new ball in SENA. I like this idea of Pujara opening in England and SA. With Jadeja proving to be a much capable batsman, we can probably play him and 4 seamers in these countries with Sundar performing a Moeen Ali type role express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 24, 2021 Author Share Posted January 24, 2021 14 hours ago, Majestic said: Our batting should be:- Rohit Gill( he scores his runs at good rate during powerplays, it's after powerplays that he will get slower and by then Rohit will start scoring aggressively) Kohli Rahul Pant(wkt) Pandya Jadeja You are talking about ODIs I guess. This is a nice lineup. Mosher and Majestic 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 18 hours ago, express bowling said: My impression is that Vihari has issues against the swinging ball and good channel balls. Everyone has that issue. Link to comment
Sgattick10 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Tbh Washy looks like a far superior batsman then Jadeja, of course in bowling Jaddu is far ahead Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sgattick10 said: Tbh Washy looks like a far superior batsman then Jadeja, of course in bowling Jaddu is far ahead Washy at 21 > Jaddu at 21.. India have invested for a long time in Jadeja. Nearly 8-9 years I guess. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 24, 2021 Author Share Posted January 24, 2021 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: Everyone has that issue. Some have it more than others. On a side note ... who do you think is the most promising uncapped 140 k+ pacer in India now ? Someone who can be a low average pacer in most conditions and can be hostile too. Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 24, 2021 Author Share Posted January 24, 2021 @Mosher, @Suhaan, @Ankit_sharma03, @prudent_kreeda All of you follow domestic cricket closely. 1. In LOIs, who do you think can be good backups for Hardik and Jadeja as batting all-rounders ? Who should be developed with special care ? 2. Which quick bowler, apart from Bumrah, can bowl good yorkers and slower balls ? ( Not talking about medium pacers ) Mosher and Suhaan 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 1:07 PM, express bowling said: Can Sundar develop into a good No.7 in ODIs. He can hit the big shots but can he do it consistently ?? Not keen on this for long term , Guys like Jaddu, Axar, Sundar are better placed at 5,6 coz at 7 u need a bit of extra muscle to hit that old ball from ball 1 without even getting ur eye in or u need players like DK and Uthappa in his prime who can hit and play the field . Genuinly hoping Samad comes through n takes that spot till then we can try sundar, tewatia Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 1:07 PM, express bowling said: 7. Jadeja / Sundar ? nope, time to send jaddu up...he scores when he has time in hand On 1/23/2021 at 1:28 PM, express bowling said: 9. Chahal / Varun / Kuldeep .... wrist spinners preffered where is Rahul chahar ? Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 1:28 PM, express bowling said: 8. Bhuvi / Shardul shardul eco is worrying but i think there is a smart way to use him, observed something he is very handy on long grounds like Dubai, Abu dhabi or australian rather NZ ones. He bowls a heavy ball which often ends up being caught on long ground. Also useful on two pace wkts rather flat where he lacks skills Link to comment
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