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7 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Which clause says middlemen will be taken out? Which ones says they will be replaced by corporations? Which clause even remotely mentions big corporation? 
 

That’s what the negotiations were, but Takait wanted only repealing. It is like peeling an onion. You response for this will be that the farmers don’t trust the government anymore

Govt did not do any such thing, was at the table, but it was only after K flags started showing up, they warned the farmers of outside influences. 


Read the history of agriculture reforms in the last 25 years, nothing was happening in coalition governments. Ab to majority mila, still political influences are making reforms a dream to achieve. First of all, you should believe that Govt and  all parties (in their manifestos) had good intentions for farmers, and not fear them with evil bogeymen and Ambani adani take over of their lands

You keep on repeating this ad nauseum. Look at this anywhere in the world (advanced economy) and farmers have been finished. It has happend in US, Europe and now China. Indian farmers know the storyline too well.

 

No you dont need a clause but the moment a big entity comes in small guys will not be able to compete.

 

Look at the story of other states, farmers were paid higher prices for first two years and then it all went down the drain.

 

Here is my suggestion and this is one of the better way forward. Leave farming alone. Do nothing except prop up the small farmer. invest in rapid industrialization of the country. When farmer will see better jobs he will leave the farm. This is not rocket science.

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17 hours ago, 9zaesm said:


 

Exactly ! Follow the timeline in manner things happen ! And you have all the answers. 
 

Does he really doesn’t know . Measures were taken due to violence on 26th ? Did those image sink in ? Who is responsible if during protest a policeman or group of cops fire weapon ? The government . 
who should be responsible if violence occurs from protestors ? The leaders of the protest . 
 

playing with the timeline of events and pushing it on social media feeds will get your attention . They are not the ones to convince . The only thing it does is tarnish the image of India.Is that the reason of the protest . Has the government not tried to listen to demands and propose solutions. You just don’t want to accept reality and sticking to only one option repeal laws is not realistic . 
 

 


So let us surmise. There is nothing. Not one single that you can point out about the farm law which stops status quo for this who wish it. 
 

So layman question is. If you can continue doing what you are doing, then what is protest for. 

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36 minutes ago, Khota said:

It should always be about country and its people and not political parties.

If coontry = khalistan people = khalistani then your your stand looks absolutely correct.  However Indians give a jackshit about that country. So , simole advise, You may have heard the story of boy who cried wolf. If you are not Khalistani then EVM, CAA, NRC, now farm bill each time opposition has been exposed of lieing.  Don’t generate so much distrust that people atop even listening to uou.

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1 hour ago, mishra said:

If coontry = khalistan people = khalistani then your your stand looks absolutely correct.  However Indians give a jackshit about that country. So , simole advise, You may have heard the story of boy who cried wolf. If you are not Khalistani then EVM, CAA, NRC, now farm bill each time opposition has been exposed of lieing.  Don’t generate so much distrust that people atop even listening to uou.

Name calling. You have learned it well from your masters. Personal attacks when you cant defend your actions against nations poor farmers.

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17 hours ago, Khota said:

So let me ask a question if everyone can continue doing what they are why do you have laws like this.

 

Need to start dismantling PSU's first.


Laws like this are for those who are willing and able to change. For those who want to remain stuck, there is no obstruction. 
 

Second point is happening as we speak. It’s irrelevant to this issue. 

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21 hours ago, ravishingravi said:


So let us surmise. There is nothing. Not one single that you can point out about the farm law which stops status quo for this who wish it. 
 

So layman question is. If you can continue doing what you are doing, then what is protest for. 

For this... They’ve misinformed some poor farmers that their lands will be snatched... There’s a huge corrupt nexus between Politivusbs & Aadtiyas (middlemen)... Torak game is on Commissions and black money...

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6 hours ago, ravishingravi said:


Laws like this are for those who are willing and able to change. For those who want to remain stuck, there is no obstruction. 
 

Second point is happening as we speak. It’s irrelevant to this issue. 

It is happening and I agree with you.Farming needs reform too. 

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5 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

Very interesting data. More than 68 % farmers hold less than 2 hectares of land. 

I think it is more than that. And those are the ones who will lose everything with or without reforms.

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6 hours ago, ravishingravi said:


Laws like this are for those who are willing and able to change. For those who want to remain stuck, there is no obstruction. 
 

Second point is happening as we speak. It’s irrelevant to this issue. 

I forgot to address that it is relevant because the massive salaries and pensions are draining the federal govt.

 

23 hours ago, urbestfriend said:

Modi govt doing that step by step...Look it up, dont change later(like you always do) saying they are selling the national asset.

And I applaud Modi for dismantling some of these.

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11 hours ago, Khota said:

Name calling. You have learned it well from your masters. Personal attacks when you cant defend your actions against nations poor farmers.

No name calling. I called people are able to see the lies of so called opposition whose base have eroded so much that its now limited to handful of Chinese stooge Commies, khalistani and Anti Hindu. Opposition is one mainstreaming their  “agenda”. Opposition can do politics and can get behind those forces but bottom line is the so called opposition and the supporters have no respect. You are educated person. You can understand what I am saying. If you can’t then don’t blame public for not trusting  opposition even if tomorrow their is some genuine concern 

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