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Forget about foreign teams, is preparing rank turners not injustice to Indian fast bowlers ? Is it good for Indian team in the longer run ?


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6 hours ago, Vilander said:

yup a full strength England might even run India close if they win most tosses. They will beat pak as well ( probably can beat BD as is ) and obviously they beat SL. India struggles to beat NZ Eng as of now in our away tours. 

 

Absolutely wrong comparison.

 

Your example supposes that all the teams are equal strength. They are not.

 

New Zealand are the no 1 ranked team and have probably their greatest ever XI and 4-5 players form this team will walk into their all time XI. 

England are ranked 4 and have 3-4 players who can enter their all time XI.

 

Pakistan are 5 (gap of 18 points with England, England meanwhile just have a gap of 10 points from 1st placed NZ) and have one of their weakest teams of all time and have no one who would get into their all time XI.

 

SL are 7th and it's the same thing. 

 

You cannot just compare like that.

 

Compare vs the same countries.

Ind whitewashes WI in WI. Eng lost.

Ind defeated Aus in Aus. Eng lost.

Both lost against NZ.

Only place they have done better than us is SA but the SA we played had DeVilliers, Steyn and Morkel. I full expect us to win the series in the winter.

 

Your comparison is like saying in 1995 that Pakistan is better than Australia cause they beat NZ and Eng away while Aus can't beat Pak and Ind away. That's cause they were some of the worst and weakest Eng and NZ teams of all time while both Pak and Ind were decent teams with a few all timers in their XI.

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Full strength England vs full stength in India? India will smoke them 3 0.

 

Away India loses but it will be competitive provided India take them seriously. India never replay with the sam fire and intensity they display vs Aussies when they tour England. 

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I’m amazed nobody talking about ‘the master of making  doctored pitches ‘ NZ  ,how blatantly they served us green mambas in both test without making  any fuss and nobody complained about it cause they are small nation and goody - goody people so they  have every right to make any kind of pitches .At the helm of wtc final ,keep aside your inner consciousness .

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1 hour ago, VT87 said:

I’m amazed nobody talking about ‘the master of making  doctored pitches ‘ NZ  ,how blatantly they served us green mambas in both test without making  any fuss and nobody complained about it cause they are small nation and goody - goody people so they  have every right to make any kind of pitches .At the helm of wtc final ,keep aside your inner consciousness .

NZ rarely complain about pitches they get served when they though. And i have never heard them deny preparing pitches for opposition teams the way English fans do so vehemently. 

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If it feels good to watch a pacers swinging the ball and taking outside edge, it looks equally lovely to watch a spinner  outfox a batsman in flight or beat them with turn. 
 

So both are a art and require both talent and hard work and not as if spin comes easy

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