zen Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Jay said: Aussies did the same in their home country though. They just competed vs Unfit teams in an era where there were virtually 2 teams that took fitness seriously. Real test was post 2010 ish. It is getting comical ... Link to comment
Jay Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, zen said: It is getting comical ... I am not wrong. India were easily one of the most unfit sides in that period. So we're padosis. Most Asian teams. You had Australia, maybe staffers. That's it. Kiwis were mediocre. English were mediocre till about kid 2000. People have a terrible tendency to Overrate the past due to nostalgic reasons. I cringe when I look at the fodder bowling attacks Aussies took advantage of in that period. The one time they faced a half decent attack they drew in Australia. Apart from the old saffer bowling attack there is none that were effective enough on flat pitches of Australia. Edited April 8, 2021 by Jay Link to comment
Frustrated Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) I was aware this thread would backfire. Badly. Edited June 19, 2021 by Frustrated raki05 1 Link to comment
Frustrated Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Apart from one or two decent innings in Australia, he has done nothing in SENA in 10 years. Has enjoyed very long rope though. raki05 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Frustrated said: Apart from one or two decent innings in Australia, he has done nothing in SENA in 10 years. Has enjoyed very long rope though. 1-2 decent innings? I can count 10 probably. Link to comment
Frustrated Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: 1-2 decent innings? I can count 10 probably. Not sure about 10. Let's assume 10. So, 10 decent knocks in 10 years is an achievement? raki05 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, Frustrated said: Not sure about 10. Let's assume 10. So, 10 decent knocks in 10 years is an achievement? Yes What number should be condidered decent for a good batsman? 20 good knocks in 4 countries over 10 years? There will be very few decent batsmen left in world then. Link to comment
Lord Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 He's neither an ATG nor useless. Good solid batsman however on decline Plays super innings on song but there isn't much in between When he started,he used to be more positive,specially v spin and we had hopes of another Dravid Over the years its changed though.Maybe due to bad knees and role Mentally strong guy though raki05 1 Link to comment
kohli Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 47 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: 1-2 decent innings? I can count 10 probably. I want to know that 10 decent innings?? Frustrated and raki05 1 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, kohli said: I want to know that 10 decent innings?? Sure 1. Link to comment
kohli Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Sure 1. Plz update Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 minute ago, kohli said: Plz update Sure 1. 193 at SCG - Game drawn 2. 153 at Joberg - Drawn match 3. 132 at Southampton - Lost match 4. 123 at Adelaide - Won match 5. 106 at Melbourne - Won match 6. 77 in 285 balls at Sydney -- saved the game 7. 72 v England at Nottingham - test we won in 2018 8. 71 in 2nd inning of Adelaide in 2018 - test we won, Pujara was top scorer and margin of defeat was 31 runs 9. 56 in 211 balls at Gabba 2021 - probably one of the best wins in Indian cricket 10. 50 at Jober in 2018 -- test we won and it was low scoring game. Basically he has been major contributor in won/drawn games we had seen in last 10 years in SENA Same can't be said about any other Indian batsman. Norman and zen 1 1 Link to comment
The Realist Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Pujara is a pure passenger. Doesn't even chip in for petrol anymore. Norman, Frustrated, sarcastic and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Link to comment
kohli Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Sure 1. 193 at SCG - Game drawn 2. 153 at Joberg - Drawn match 3. 132 at Southampton - Lost match 4. 123 at Adelaide - Won match 5. 106 at Melbourne - Won match 6. 77 in 285 balls at Sydney -- saved the game 7. 72 v England at Nottingham - test we won in 2018 8. 71 in 2nd inning of Adelaide in 2018 - test we won, Pujara was top scorer and margin of defeat was 31 runs 9. 56 in 211 balls at Gabba 2021 - probably one of the best wins in Indian cricket 10. 50 at Jober in 2018 -- test we won and it was low scoring game. Basically he has been major contributor in won/drawn games we had seen in last 10 years in SENA Same can't be said about any other Indian batsman. If haif century is decent innings in sena county then rahane has more than 10 decent innings in sena. Frustrated and raki05 1 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Just now, kohli said: If haif century is decent innings in sena county then rahane has more than 10 decent innings in sena. Yeah he has and your point is? Link to comment
kohli Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Yeah he has and your point is? I want more innings from him bcz he is our 2nd best batsman in last 8 year Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, kohli said: I want more innings from him bcz he is our 2nd best batsman in last 8 year What you want is an ATG batsman else nothing. Not everything can be ATG. He is great batsman. He will end career with 8-9k runs at avg of 45+. That's a tier below ATG batsmen, but an Indian great nonetheless. There have been hardly 5-6 ATG batsmen in history of Indian cricket. Pujara is among top 10 Indian batsmen in history. kohli 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Sure 1. 193 at SCG - Game drawn 2. 153 at Joberg - Drawn match 3. 132 at Southampton - Lost match 4. 123 at Adelaide - Won match 5. 106 at Melbourne - Won match 6. 77 in 285 balls at Sydney -- saved the game 7. 72 v England at Nottingham - test we won in 2018 8. 71 in 2nd inning of Adelaide in 2018 - test we won, Pujara was top scorer and margin of defeat was 31 runs 9. 56 in 211 balls at Gabba 2021 - probably one of the best wins in Indian cricket 10. 50 at Jober in 2018 -- test we won and it was low scoring game. Basically he has been major contributor in won/drawn games we had seen in last 10 years in SENA Same can't be said about any other Indian batsman. Actually his 140 odd in SL damn good as it was a greentop with series on SL.Almost SENA like Link to comment
Moochad Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Basically he has been major contributor in won/drawn games we had seen in last 10 years in SENA Same can't be said about any other Indian batsman. Lords 2014 20 odd off 100+ balls was decent as well. Made it easier for the lower order to score more runs on a green pitch Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 But 10 decent innings away is not enough, it's not achievement. It's no achievement to be among top 10 Indian batsmen of all time. Some people have expectations like Indian parents. If you're not among top 3, you haven't achieved anything. Khota 1 Link to comment
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