R!TTER Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 42 minutes ago, raki05 said: Dravid was good in eng,NZ He was arguably better in NZ, Eng than SRT for sure, worse off in SA & much worse in Oz. Kohli is not that good in NZ & arguably, even after his 2018 exploit, that assured against the swinging in Eng. raki05 1 Link to comment
Adamant Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, raki05 said: ya with avg of 29,20,31,20 in eng,nz,sa and wi respectively after playing for 10 years he definitely is irreplaceable. Had it been Rohit you guys were crying like anything. Rohit avg is not very different than him and much better in Asian condition. Rohit is not much better in Indian conditions haha. Don’t go by average Pujara has been our go to man in most important series in India and SRL I think either you started watching test cricket recently or you don't like his conventional playing style. Pujara is the best batsman against spin on this Planet. Link to comment
Adamant Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I don't think that anyone who has followed Indian test cricket over the years will rate Sharma ahead of Pujara in Asia. @Ankit_sharma03 your thoughts on this. Link to comment
raki05 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Adamant said: Rohit is not much better in Indian conditions haha. Don’t go by average Pujara has been our go to man in most important series in India and SRL I think either you started watching test cricket recently or you don't like his conventional playing style. Pujara is the best batsman against spin on this Planet. ...Well i don't leave in past.. if i have to go back in past i would always prefer watching Sehwag against spin and in Asian condition than pujara's Mujara which he has developed lately. Leave it man i dont want to bash Pujara he is great in asian condition and i respect that... But some of you guys hyped him so much inspite of him being shambolic since aus 2018 attaract some unwanted criticism towards him. Edited February 25, 2021 by raki05 kohli 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Adamant said: I don't think that anyone who has followed Indian test cricket over the years will rate Sharma ahead of Pujara in Asia. @Ankit_sharma03 your thoughts on this. Pujara has massive level of performance in home , i rate him higher then dravid at home Sharma volume of work at home isnt as big as of now Adamant 1 Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I wont say he is not good enough but time has come for a replacement. I have said it before, Pujara has at max 15 months of cricket left in him and now with the IPL contract he will also relax a bit. We need to start grooming a young batsman for no.3 spot...especially in home tests. Also, Rahane dont have long time either...so another replacement would require at no.5 spot. Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) His game against spin has been shocking in recent times, even in Australia Lyon was toying with him and unlucky that he couldn't get him out more number of times. After that 2018-19 Aus tour his numbers make for grim reading, no big score even at home. Is this terminal decline or what? Have always rated him as a beast at home, especially on turners. My #3 in AT Indian XI for home matches, ahead of Dravid. So his recent returns are worrying. Has also become a mental issue with him I think, looks scared/fidgety against spin. Edited February 26, 2021 by Gollum Link to comment
Jay Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 58 minutes ago, Gollum said: His game against spin has been shocking in recent times, even in Australia Lyon was toying with him and unlucky that he couldn't get him out more number of times. After that 2018-19 Aus tour his numbers make for grim reading, no big score even at home. Is this terminal decline or what? Have always rated him as a beast at home, especially on turners. My #3 in AT Indian XI for home matches, ahead of Dravid. So his recent returns are worrying. Has also become a mental issue with him I think, looks scared/fidgety against spin. Reflex gone and honestly he needs a rest. Tired from Aussie tour. He should have been rested. He will come back. Form is temporary. Class is permanent. Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Yeah, the guy who has won our two biggest series is suddenly not good enough. The guy literally put his body in the line to win us the series in Australia. Take him out and both Aus tours would have been 0-4 whitewashes. Leave him alone and let him be. He can score a dozen ducks, still should keep his place in the side. Link to comment
dilliboy Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Oh dear.. One failure and the knives are out again. Unbelievable mindset of some Indian 'fans' Link to comment
VVS_Rahane Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Pujara is a borderline ATG batsman. At the SCG, he faced nearly 400 balls in the 3rd test in Australia for India to draw the test but some of you guys will only look at batting average which was immaterial in the context he was batting in. At the Gabba, he single handedly batted Australia out of the win at one end while sacrificing his body so that batsmen from the other end could play for the Indian win. Read Pat Cummins's analysis of Pujara - https://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1250818/pat-cummins---once-we-knew-virat-was-going-to-miss-the-last-three-tests--pujara-was-the-big-wicket-for-me. In an interview in the past, he has called Pujara the toughest batsmen he has bowled to in cricket. He has had 4 bad innings and now you want to desert him. Such fans don't deserve him. Pearls before swine. f20143g70 1 Link to comment
G_B_ Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Pujara still has utility overseas with his ability to blunt the new ball. Imo post Sa series next year both Rahane n Pujara need to move on and kohli needs to step down as captain. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, G_B_ said: kohli needs to step down as captain. Over my dead *in body Link to comment
Samcric Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, G_B_ said: Pujara still has utility overseas with his ability to blunt the new ball. Imo post Sa series next year both Rahane n Pujara need to move on and kohli needs to step down as captain. Rahane scored one of the greatest centuries in Australia just 1 month back. Forget about that, in the last test match (Chennai 2nd test), he put up a great partnership with Rohit. Pujara played very well in Australia. He has failed for literally 4 innings! People think that guys like Iyer and KL Rahul (or pick your names) can just walk in and replace Pujara, Kohli and Rahane. while there are a lot of replacements for bowlers, ironically, there are not many young Indian batters who can stand up and make themselves count in SENA. Vihari failed other than one innings in Sydney, guys like Iyer etc. are unproven even in India A tours. Gill is the only one that can potentially replace any of these guys in middle order. India needs to try and find replacements for these guys first. Some of the younger batters need to put their hands up and prove themselves in India A tours. Until that happens, these 3 aren't going anywhere. India vs India A in England should be interesting. VVS_Rahane 1 Link to comment
G_B_ Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Samcric said: Rahane scored one of the greatest centuries in Australia just 1 month back. Forget about that, in the last test match (Chennai 2nd test), he put up a great partnership with Rohit. Pujara played very well in Australia. He has failed for literally 4 innings! People think that guys like Iyer and KL Rahul (or pick your names) can just walk in and replace Pujara, Kohli and Rahane. while there are a lot of replacements for bowlers, ironically, there are not many young Indian batters who can stand up and make themselves count in SENA. Vihari failed other than one innings in Sydney, guys like Iyer etc. are unproven even in India A tours. Gill is the only one that can potentially replace any of these guys in middle order. India needs to try and find replacements for these guys first. Some of the younger batters need to put their hands up and prove themselves in India A tours. Until that happens, these 3 aren't going anywhere. India vs India A in England should be interesting. See i just think its strategic. After the SA series (which i feel we have a great chance to win and thus should have experience). India will be facing the likes of Aus SA NZ and England at home. You dont want to be in a situation like 2011 that our greats failed in the England series and we had Australia series to follow. Post the SA series we will have roughly 2 years for a young batting side to get used to test cricket. Link to comment
Vickydev Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Post Gabba he was the greatest Indian test batsman since the 90s, and now he is not good enough. Why such extremes? Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) Leave the fricking guy alone, he is doing just fine.Pujara even if he flops next test is fine. He still has another five years of cricket left in him, why are we looking for his replacement. What he did in Australia was magical on last two tours.He will do well in England too this year.If he does well India will win that series.He is more important batsman than Kohli for this line up as he will hold one end up and tire bowlers out. Edited February 26, 2021 by putrevus Link to comment
LordPrabhzy Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 53 minutes ago, putrevus said: Leave the fricking guy alone, he is doing just fine.Pujara even if he flops next test is fine. He still has another five years of cricket left in him, why are we looking for his replacement. What he did in Australia was magically on last two tours.He will do well in England too this year.If he does well India will win that series.He is more important batsman than Kohli for this line up as he will hold one end up and tire bowlers out. If he had played a lot of county games yes he probably would have but he chose to play IPL and sit on the benches and rake in the money rather than play in county to help his performance and India in the tour sage 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: If he had played a lot of county games yes he probably would have but he chose to play IPL and sit on the benches and rake in the money rather than play in county to help his performance and India in the tour Why are we gruding players making money.He does not have to play county cricket to do well in England.He does not have score big 100s either, he needs to absorb pressure and hold one end as long as possible. Link to comment
LordPrabhzy Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, putrevus said: Why are we gruding players making money.He does not have to play county cricket to do well in England.He does not have score big 100s either, he needs to absorb pressure and hold one end as long as possible. BCCI has enough money to compensate our Test specialists adequately to play first class cricket in overseas conditions without feeling left out. You seem to have a fattu mindset. No wonder only Kohli could make any centuries. Everyone isnt Kohli so they need time to acclimatise to conditions to even ' block and hold one end'. Pujara will end up nicking to slips every innings cheaply because he hasnt been able to adjust to the lenghts and his footwork without acclimatisation. So will Rahane and so will our openers. Its all about priorities. BCCI does not care about SENA tours enough- Australia is conquered but we are nowhere near competitive in NZ and England as we should be. Link to comment
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