Has Pant already eclipsed Dhoni as a TEST batsman ?

[Ravi_Shastri]

38 minutes ago, zen said:

Said it many times, likes of Pant (and SDP) are good enough to play as batsman alone. Let’s stop putting a limit on such cricketers where they can only get it based on AR contributions 

You also said Pujara is better than Dravid. 

Now that is some good shiit. 

[New guy]

Already has scored 515 runs this year and this is just March beginning

[Ankit_sharma03]

yes

yes

yes

[putrevus]

He is a far better test batsman than Dhoni ever was two years ago.Dhoni is not even in his league.He can be as good as Adam Gilchrist.Now some geniuses are lumping Pandya with guy. Pandya is nowhere near this guy.This guy was always a legit great batsman, keeping was only his issue.

[zen]

1 hour ago, Trichromatic said:

 

Apples and oranges. 

talent and potential (just that ppl have reservations w/ players who are unorthodox) ... Many wanted Saha over Pant (see post NZ tour) ... if  SDP had been backed, he too would have been developed by now (already the best player v Aus in recent LOIs - MOS in T20s. So after focusing on batting, he is attempting to take it to the next level)

 

Edited March 5, 2021 by zen

[Vijy]

yes, he has already done more outside SC than Dhongi did.

[putrevus]

Dhoni was epitome of player who got most out of his talent in every aspect of his career both on the field and off the field. Dhoni was not bad batsman for a keeper , it is just Pant is so far superior as a batsman.

[sandeep]

2 hours ago, mishra said:

Bhai come to think of it. I heard Stoksey saing this is toughest wicket he has ever batted on and then Pant does reverse sweep to Ande

I like it. 

 

From now on I will refer to Cloudy as AndeKaBaccha.

[ViruDilSeKhelo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_0cF9bIg74&ab_channel=CricketWithJulius

 

Aur Madras double century and plenty of 90s

 

Dukh ki baat hai, I thought no one would replace Dhoni as number 1 in India's history lekin immediately aa gaya Rishabh. I was his fan from the start and wanted Saha out. 

 

Still, Dhoni is ahead if he look at all facets in tests like tactics, leading and excellent behind the stumps. In an ATG Test XI Mahi will be the skipper/keeper/number 7. 

Edited March 5, 2021 by ViruDilSeKhelo

[express bowling]

3 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

SRT after 20 matches - 1085 runs at avg of 37, 4 100s.

Dravid - 1526 runs at avg of 52 with 1 100.

Sehwag - 1513 runs at avg of 45, 5 100s.

Gavaskar - 1733 runs avg of 51. 6 100s.

Kohli - 1235 runs at avg of 41, 4 100s.

 

Pant - 1358 runs at avg of 45, 3 centuries.

 

During this phase, he has already played

1. Big 100 knock at Sydney,

2. knock to draw the game in 4th inning overseas, 

3. Match winning knock to win game overseas chasing big total.

4. Century on turner in India when team was in trouble.

5. Century in 4th inning in England.

6. Good knocks on flat decks.

 

Scoring on flat decks - check

Scoring on turners - check

Scoring against top bowling - check

Attacking any bowling - check

Performing under pressure - check

Performing in easy situation - check

Consistency - Check

 

None of Indian batsmen could cover so many aspects so early in the career.

 

 

Scoring on fast bouncy tracks against tall fast bowlers - check

 

Scoring consistently in the 4th innings - check

 

Coming back strongly after every other ex-cricketer and his dog criticizes him in public - check

 

[Jay]

He is better than kohli ever was in second innings chases let alone dhoni. When has lolli ever scored a match winning innings vs sena in second innings? 

 

Kohli is a legendary player but in sena he never had performed like pant. 

Edited March 6, 2021 by Jay

[SRT100]

That 89* in the GABBA Test, is effectively a massive century as far as I am concerned.

 

While of course it is not one, it should be counted as one lol.

 

The only reason he didnt hit 100 is because Australia didnt score enough runs to chase down lol.

[gattaca]

But is he cool ? 

[nevada]

Dhoni abroad was no more than a handy batsman. Pant beats him handily in that criteria alone. On current form, he is better than most of our specialist batsmen. How many of them have played a series deciding 4th innings knock in SENA and made a habit of making big scores with backs to the wall? 

[SRT100]

3 minutes ago, nevada said:

Dhoni abroad was no more than a handy batsman. Pant beats him handily in that criteria alone. On current form, he is better than most of our specialist batsmen. How many of them have played a series deciding 4th innings knock in SENA and made a habit of making big scores with backs to the wall? 

 

If you count Pant's knock as a century, when was the last time a top order batsmen from India scored 100 in the 4th innings in SENA on the 5th day, regardless of the result????

[nevada]

53 minutes ago, Jay said:

He is better than kohli ever was in second innings chases let alone dhoni. When has lolli ever scored a match winning innings vs sena in second innings? 

 

Kohli is a legendary player but in sena he never had performed like pant. 

Kohli is a one trick pony. He is a very good front runner but backs to the wall, not so much. His captaincy is no better - comfortable only when the team is nicely ahead, on pins and needles when behind. 

[SRT100]

12 minutes ago, nevada said:

Kohli is a one trick pony. He is a very good front runner but backs to the wall, not so much. His captaincy is no better - comfortable only when the team is nicely ahead, on pins and needles when behind. 

 

While it was obvious that Dhoni still captained the ODI when he stepped down, its now obvious just how much he masked and covered up Kohli's inadequacy as a leader.

 

When Kohli was at his peak, his centuries and performances hid his ability to captain. Once his batting declined, he is been shown to be a huge pretender.

 

All jokes aside, like in the US presidency, Indian cricket should not be captained by a player for more than 4 years ever. I dont think its good for grooming the next captain.

 

At the moment, there is no player that is worthy of being a captain and also a place in the side. Sure Ashwin in Asian conditions, less so in SENA.

[SRT100]

53 minutes ago, gattaca said:

But is he cool ? 

 

When Pant did that somersault while keeping, did it appear as if Kohli told him not to do that?

[R!TTER]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

match winning innings vs sena in second innings? 

What about Asia, he's failed miserably here against Herath & co 

[beetle]

At this point,this question is an insult to Pant.