We(indian fans) are most impatient fans in world cricket

[Jay]

26 minutes ago, dilliboy said:

People who are questioning his captaincy - they have every right to do so, Kohli is a good test captain but limited overs captaincy suits someone like Rohit better who is calmer in tense situations. 

 

People who are questioning his batting - you guys are out of your minds. Every batsmen in history has gone through rough patches, doesn't mean they are rubbish overnight 

Kohli isn't a good captain at all. He is helped by having a star studded team with quality bowlers and some match winning batsmen. 

 

Rahane is probably a better test captian. 

 

Kohli is woeful as captain in t20s and odi. 

 

He sucks these days even in short formats. He has clearly regressed. He doesn't have the power game anymore for. T20. He is ok as an anchor. 

 

Kohli should concentrate on playing as a pure batsman. That's all most fans are asking. 

 

Captaincy isn't for him. 

[ShoonyaSifar]

7 hours ago, neel roy said:

Reposting

 

 

We lost one match and all Hell broke lose. For god sake calm down. Our record in t20 past 2 years

in SENA

 

Beat AUS 2-1 and drew 1-1 ( should have won 3rd. Washed away)

Beat South Africa 2-1

Beat NZ :5-0 lost to NZ 2-1

Beat England 2-1

so we played 19 games and lost 6 won 13. Won 4 series out of 6 in SENA. I ll go on to say we are the best in t20s. 

We won every t20 home series in last 5 years except one against Aus where Maxwell beat us. There was lots of dew in that match. We have won Asia Cup , Nidahas you name it we won it. We supporters press panic button too soon. I m sure we will bounce back. 

Something was different about those two wins. Try recollecting what?

 

On us being number 1, well T20 rankings change every match. Mean nothing esp as teams keep experimenting. The reason why people are frustrated is anyone can see the pre-2019 WC pattern being repeated. We win most bilateral series, keep messing up team selections and ultimately lose out on another ICC trophy due to sheer idiocy of the captain and coach.

[zen]

Kohli may not be the best of captains but his criticism is a bigger joke. In the larger scheme of things following do not make a huge difference:

 

a) Toss lost -> whose fault -> Kohli 

b) 1-2 players not picked here and there -> whose fault -> Kohli (as if the other 9-10 become useless that too when playing for a top team) 

c) A player does not do well -> whose fault -> Kohli (as if the player is facing Kohli the bowler when batting or the batsman when bowling) 

 

Yes, things can be more optimized but if one man can make a team zero, you are probably underestimating the team and overestimating Kohli, and more importantly mainly concerned about token wins (when no team wins all its game and when most series esp. among top sides can be closely contested  

Edited March 13, 2021 by zen

[zen]

10 hours ago, King6 said:

Now Kohli in rough patch as a batsman. Here some people wants to Kohli retire and some more people saying Kohli is finished. He will surely bounce back. Wait few days.

 

Many of those are Rohit fans, a few switched to supporting Rohit from Sachin (retired), writing against anyone who is as good as or better than Sachin (whether Kohli, Dhoni, or whoever) ... so have to take most of such criticism w/ a pinch of salt  

Edited March 13, 2021 by zen

[BacktoCricaddict]

9 hours ago, neel roy said:

Where is his selection bias. Logically tell men think logically if you have any logic. This was the perfect team with available resources save Dhawan. And whole world knows he is being played as Rohit rested. Now coming to Sky. So you want me to think he would have played better than Iyer and won us the match?? Where the hell is bias??

Not necessarily bias, but a preference for seniority.  As fans, we are all looking for the next big Indian thing in T-20s, and with so much potential in the wings, it is a bit tiresome to see the same faces over and over again.  We know what they can do.  They are not bad players, but seem to have peaked.  Personally, I was seeing this series as an opportunity to groom the future, even at the expense of the series (which, in the big scheme of things does not count for much).  

 

I (and I reckon many others) wouldn't have complained if we had lost as badly as we did with a few newcomers (Kishan in place of Dhawan, SKY in place of Iyer, R Chahar in place of Chahal).  

[neel roy]

2 hours ago, zen said:

Kohli may not be the best of captains but his criticism is a bigger joke. In the larger scheme of things following do not make a huge difference:

 

a) Toss lost -> whose fault -> Kohli 

b) 1-2 players not picked here and there -> whose fault -> Kohli (as if the other 9-10 become useless that too when playing for a top team) 

c) A player does not do well -> whose fault -> Kohli (as if the player is facing Kohli the bowler when batting or the batsman when bowling) 

 

Yes, things can be more optimized but if one man can make a team zero, you are probably underestimating the team and overestimating Kohli, and more importantly mainly concerned about token wins (when no team wins all its game and when most series esp. among top sides can be closely contested  

Very valid point. The only blame I can have on kohli is he is bad at tosses..but hang on he won the champions trophy toss.. and still lost.. who were in the team Yuvraj dhoni kedar jadhav in middle order.. now who do we have now.. pant pandya iyer.. who did we have in w cup.. pant pandya dk...so are we underestimating the former or underestimating the latter. So its not about a single player.. its about the team..india couldnt chase 240 With latter in sf and 350 with former.. so who will you all blame..

[Majestic]

I agree. SKY, Kishan and Tewatia will get matches too, have some patience.

[Nash]

For me it was deja vu of 90s when our batsman cant handle fast bowling. 

[SRT100]

 

It is the bigger picture that most fans are upset about.

 

Dhawan played when he shouldnt be.

Kohli played yet another poor game, in what has been forever since he contributed to an Indian win.

When your top 3 batsmen score 5 runs off almost 4 overs, there is massive cause for concern.

Chahal being torn apart when he shouldnt have played in the first place.

England going at over 10 an over and not losing their first wicket till over 70 runs on the board.

 

There is also the debate should India play Kohli, Dhawan and Iyer in the same team when effectively they play the same role of anchoring an innings. Given that Kohli is unfortunately the constant variable in the formula, both Dhawan and Iyer need to make way for more explosive and destructive batsmen. While Iyer had a decent game, he has struggled for a while.

 

Lastly only one batsmen to score over 100 SR in a T20 is terrible.

 

I dont expect India to win every game. I expect India to fight to win every game. This game was over inside the first over when 2 runs were score of a slow spin bowler. It was a sign of just how timid and passive the Indian batsmen have become.

 

It set the tone for the entire game.

[Jay]

Hate is well deserved. 

[King6]

5 hours ago, zen said:

 

Many of those are Rohit fans, a few switched to supporting Rohit from Sachin (retired), writing against anyone who is as good as or better than Sachin (whether Kohli, Dhoni, or whoever) ... so have to take most of such criticism w/ a pinch of salt  

Yes true. 

[New guy]

6 hours ago, zen said:

 

Many of those are Rohit fans, a few switched to supporting Rohit from Sachin (retired), writing against anyone who is as good as or better than Sachin (whether Kohli, Dhoni, or whoever) ... so have to take most of such criticism w/ a pinch of salt  

Dude you are so  biased you think imzamam is better than Sachin. The irony of  someone as pathetically biased as you  accuaing others of being biased is hilarious. 

 

In fact you are so utterly biased you think any criticism of kohli is because of being sachin fan, that's how obsessed you are 

[New guy]

14 minutes ago, King6 said:

Yes true. 

So you genuinely think any criticism of kohli si because peole are Sachin fans? Any valid points you might  have gets utterly destroyed when  you make such stupid assertions

 

If you genuinely think that, why even post or make these points? 

[IndianRenegade]

13 hours ago, neel roy said:

Where is his selection bias. Logically tell men think logically if you have any logic. This was the perfect team with available resources save Dhawan. And whole world knows he is being played as Rohit rested. Now coming to Sky. So you want me to think he would have played better than Iyer and won us the match?? Where the hell is bias??

Why is Dhawan selection considering his inconsistent performance not bias? 
 

what is sundar doing in the team if he isn’t going to bowl 4 overs? He is a good bat in tests, but he clearly not an explosive batsman that the position requires, Virat hardly bowls sundar too. SKY could have been drafted in as our batting without Rohit needed a boost. 

[King6]

2 minutes ago, New guy said:

So you genuinely think any criticism of kohli si because peole are Sachin fans? Any valid points you might  have gets utterly destroyed when  you make such stupid assertions

 

If you genuinely think that, why even post or make these points? 

I saw so many Sachin fans converted to rohit fans. They hate Kohli

[Vilander]

Truth bombs:  What is the point lol.. there are just 10 teams playing in thw World ( and three of them are pakistan Afghanistan and bd) and the whole of India ( size of sahara desert and population of africa) is behind this team wanting it to win everything lol.. . May be this is the least worth sport of all hehe.. may be competes with unicycle hockey , wife carrying etc in terms of prestige, its popular only because of huge Indian pakistani bd anaemic population. 

[zen]

14 minutes ago, New guy said:

Dude you are so  biased you think imzamam is better than Sachin. The irony of  someone as pathetically biased as you  accuaing others of being biased is hilarious. 

 

In fact you are so utterly biased you think any criticism of kohli is because of being sachin fan, that's how obsessed you are 

 

Appears as if I revealed the hidden truth

[Vilander]

10 minutes ago, King6 said:

I saw so many Sachin fans converted to rohit fans. They hate Kohli

 

#Mumbaikars

#gavamanjushamelesskars 

 

[Vilander]

6 hours ago, zen said:

 

Many of those are Rohit fans, a few switched to supporting Rohit from Sachin (retired), writing against anyone who is as good as or better than Sachin (whether Kohli, Dhoni, or whoever) ... so have to take most of such criticism w/ a pinch of salt  

 

Great insightful Post although its coming from you. Well done.

[zen]

19 minutes ago, King6 said:

I saw so many Sachin fans converted to rohit fans. They hate Kohli

 

A saint forgives, a scorpion bites, a Sachin bhakt criticizes players who are as good as or better (one of the only ways to display devotion)  

 

 

Edited March 14, 2021 by zen