Franco Vazquez Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Innovative way to block youngsters from coming in Link to comment
dilliboy Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Always seemed like a no brainer to me.. Didn't he score like 900 runs in the IPL the season he opened? Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 he should open in T20s,he can hit the gaps like no other player in the game. Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 From Rahul being the best player of the team and Dhawan the back up opener to I will myself open in the next world cup over 5 matches. This guy is a lunatic and nothing that comes out of his mouth can be taken seriously. He just wants to do everything and hog all the possible limelight. Insecure buffoon! sergio04, sorak, ShoonyaSifar and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, cowboysfan said: he should open in T20s,he can hit the gaps like no other player in the game. Realising it a few months before the WC! So typical of the confused decision making which has been a hall mark of our cricket in last 4-5 years. The fact IMO however is this - Kishan and SKY left him with no option. SKY had shown him how to bat at 3 and couldn't have been dropped. One more chance to Kishan as an opener and he would have sealed that spot too. That leaves VeeRat out of top 3, with his tuk tuk approach that means many match losing innings and possibly a loss of captaincy. By proclaiming himself as the new opener, clown ensures no threat from Kishan, more opportunities to play run a ball 25-30 and then sometimes with some acceleration a 65-70 in 45 type of innings. If he fails, he can always say others could not step up as an opener so I was forced to take that responsibility. Watch this script unfold in the next few months. Edited March 21, 2021 by ShoonyaSifar sorak, chewy, Sgattick10 and 3 others 1 2 3 Link to comment
RajBan Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 That's the only way to keep new group of attacking batsmen out of the line-up. Kishaan has shown what is needed at the top, earlier KL has done the same but that approach puts question marks against the usual style of Kohli and Rohit. KL's demise(hopefully temporary) have given a grand opportunity to now stamp this philosophy of safety first again. Here is the thing. The MO is now fixed even though order may vary. Pant, Sky, Iyer(atleast two of them in playing 11) and Pandya along with lower middle of Jadeja,Sundar, is kind of a draft line-up. The competition is now for top 3. If KL and Ishaan gets chances and plays some 25-26 ball 50s, it not just demonstrates how outdated Kohli and Rohit's approach is (specially when both plays ) but also raises questions that is Kishaan (and the old KL) actually better/effective than Kohli and Rohit and do we need both then. With KLs horrible form and Ishaan's mysterious niggle , Kohli has a window of opportunity to eliminate the competition. ShoonyaSifar 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 10 hours ago, bahadur_billa said: Then Kishan should play at No 4 or 5 in IPL and try to get Iyer's spot. Kishan did bat at 4 in IPL. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 The thing to ponder over here is whether Kohli has made this move to satisfy the team needs or his own selfish needs? He was proactive in this series twice & both times got out trying to go from ball one. Good intention but he doesn't have the game to play in that way. Now, suddenly there is an epiphany that best batsmen should play maximum overs & he vows to open from now on. It's blasphemous to question Kohli's batting but let's be honest is there anything extraordinary he accomplished last night? Run a ball for first 30 balls again & then wait for last overs to hit. That's just routine stuff. I will stick my neck out & say Indian team needs an opener like Shaw/Kishan who can make use of power play & it would have been beneficial for the side if Virat had tried to evolve his game staying in the middle order. He has understood the fact that his style of play is untenable in middle order in current context of T20 batsmanship & he has moved to opening. He talked about his batting chemistry with Rohit, how one can play second fiddle if the other is going strong. FFS move on from this retrograde thought process, if the pitch is flat (like it was yesterday), teams try n do maximum damage to the opposition. And also we very well know who is gonna play second fiddle most of the times anyways. Rohit once again showed why he is captain of a successful side when he trashed Virat 's "I ll open from now" remark & said the World Cup is still far off & nothing is final. He definitely knows his captain & is well aware of mood swings. RajBan, Lone Wolf and Suhaan 3 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, SK_IH said: The thing to ponder over here is whether Kohli has made this move to satisfy the team needs or his own selfish needs? He was proactive in this series twice & both times got out trying to go from ball one. Good intention but he doesn't have the game to play in that way. Now, suddenly there is an epiphany that best batsmen should play maximum overs & he vows to open from now on. It's blasphemous to question Kohli's batting but let's be honest is there anything extraordinary he accomplished last night? Run a ball for first 30 balls again & then wait for last overs to hit. That's just routine stuff. I will stick my neck out & say Indian team needs an opener like Shaw/Kishan who can make use of power play & it would have been beneficial for the side if Virat had tried to evolve his game staying in the middle order. He has understood the fact that his style of play is untenable in middle order in current context of T20 batsmanship & he has moved to opening. He talked about his batting chemistry with Rohit, how one can play second fiddle if the other is going strong. FFS move on from this retrograde thought process, if the pitch is flat (like it was yesterday), teams try n do maximum damage to the opposition. And also we very well know who is gonna play second fiddle most of the times anyways. Rohit once again showed why he is captain of a successful side when he trashed Virat 's "I ll open from now" remark & said the World Cup is still far off & nothing is final. He definitely knows his captain & is well aware of mood swings. He is not our best batsman in any format, no one stays ,there is always shelf life his batting and leadership (was always rotten)have exceeded that period He himself and his deluded fangirls can have all the joy while screaming"he's our best batsman",who cares SK_IH 1 Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Today’s promotion of kohli to open was a logical one. Not going to attach nefarious intentions to it. if kishan is actually injured then he can’t open. KL is terribly out of form, & he has been given enough chances, the team didn’t want to risk one more failure in a decider. The other option was to bring back Dhawan, that is just a step backward. They could have opened with Pant, but we don’t know how it might have worked. Kohli is kind of opening anyways with India losing a wicket early, so why not promote himself? It gives him more time which is how he bats. Now the question would be whether this is permanent? Kohli might have a bad IPL at the top, while KL might have a good one. Does it change things? What happens when Kishan is fit? Nothing is certain with Kohli’s captaincy. Stan AF 1 Link to comment
bowl_out Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 12 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Haha last match before T20 WC, captain decides to drop the best T20 player in the team and then publicly says I will open. Before the series the same clown had said Rohit and Rahul are the openers, Shikhar is the 3rd opener. Now 5 matches later all that stands for nothing. Nothing new or surprising though. Before the 2019 WC, this is how he went Sept '18 - Rahane is our no. 4 Jan '19 - Rayudu is the no. 4 for the WC Come the WC - Vijay Shankar was our no. 4 At the start of the WC, Rahul was our no. 4 In the middle of the WC, Vijay Shankar was our no. 4 By the end of the WC, Pant was our no. 4 SK_IH 1 Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Kishan, SKY are not experienced , seasoned players . They are bound to fail. Then what happens to No.3 & no.4 slots ? This is what Virat should think about . Its OK if you can do this once in a while or against a particular team . But that should be done with a purpose to gain advantage over the opposition plan . For Eg. I would prefer Virat opening if Eng go with same tactic of high pace attack in PP with Wood & Archer BUT the objective of Virat opening is to attack them and get runs and nullify their advantage in PP. Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said: Kishan, SKY are not experienced , seasoned players . They are bound to fail. Then what happens to No.3 & no.4 slots ? This is what Virat should think about . Its OK if you can do this once in a while or against a particular team . But that should be done with a purpose to gain advantage over the opposition plan . For Eg. I would prefer Virat opening if Eng go with same tactic of high pace attack in PP with Wood & Archer BUT the objective of Virat opening is to attack them and get runs and nullify their advantage in PP. Iyer is there as second line of defence if both Rohit and Kohli get out early,this is much better than Iyer and Kohli batting together. Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said: Kishan, SKY are not experienced , seasoned players . They are bound to fail. Then what happens to No.3 & no.4 slots ? This is what Virat should think about . Its OK if you can do this once in a while or against a particular team . But that should be done with a purpose to gain advantage over the opposition plan . For Eg. I would prefer Virat opening if Eng go with same tactic of high pace attack in PP with Wood & Archer BUT the objective of Virat opening is to attack them and get runs and nullify their advantage in PP. Good point. Virat is most comfortable facing pace. Link to comment
New guy Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 BTW, Rohit has contradicted Virat in his post match speech Opening with Kohli a tactical move, Rahul in fray as opener: Rohit Sharma sage 1 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, bowl_out said: At the start of the WC, Rahul was our no. 4 In the middle of the WC, Vijay Shankar was our no. 4 By the end of the WC, Pant was our no. 4 And we ended at number 4 in the WC. Poetic justice Similar fate awaits us in the T20 WC Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, New guy said: BTW, Rohit has contradicted Virat in his post match speech Opening with Kohli a tactical move, Rahul in fray as opener: Rohit Sharma usko bhi malum hai kohli kabhi kisi baat pe tikk nahin sakta New guy 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, bowl_out said: At the start of the WC, Rahul was our no. 4 In the middle of the WC, Vijay Shankar was our no. 4 By the end of the WC, Pant was our no. 4 in prepration to the Wc Yuvi was declared no. 4 Iyer was declared no.4 Rayudu was declared no.4 Rahane was declared no.4 DK was declared no.4 Raina was declared no.4 rollingstoned 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 I don't think it is a good move at all. Kohli and Rohit take time to settle down and then score .It puts so much pressure on later batsman if these two guys waste the power plays. Link to comment
Jay Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 kolhli thinks he is our best bat in t20 rofl? Link to comment
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