rkt.india Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: That’s why I specifically mentioned Kallis. Fair point and not trying to argue but Kallis used to smash the ball in to the pitch and because he was underestimated at times as the 5th bowler batsmen and he wasn’t the bowler you assess in the air, he used to surprise the batsman when they played a basic prod. I think we are more or less saying the same thing. A bowler can't be quick of the pitch without being quick in the air. A bowler can't bowl heavy ball unless he hits the deck hard but not everyone who hits the deck hard bowls heavy ball. So a heavy ball is a deceptively quicker ball that bounced more than the usual or other deliveries of that bowler. Focus is on being deceptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, express bowling said: Even a good length ball, when the pacer has hit the deck hard and the ball zips in with a bit of bounce and hits the splice of the bat really hard, is a heavy ball. A short of a length ball can be a heavy ball too. Bowlers can hit splice of the bat bowling good length on bouncy tracks. It isn't heavy ball but hitting the bat higher and harder on less responsive pitches will qualify as heavy ball. I associate heavy ball with deceptive pace and bounce, anything otherwise is hit the deck bowling. Edited April 15, 2021 by rkt.india Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Bowlers can hit splice of the bat bowling good length on bouncy tracks. It isn't heavy ball but hitting the bat higher and harder on less responsive pitches will qualify as heavy ball. Obviously ! A bit more zip and a bit more bounce than expected, is the key. Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 Prasidh probably has thd heaviest ball among Indians now. Bumrah bowls both heavy balls as well as skiddy balls. Siraj, Shami, Saini and Umesh are very skiddy. Mosher and vishalvirsingh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 4 hours ago, rkt.india said: He always had same problem. So I am not sure. One IPL season, most bowlers were clocked quicker, so, I have doubts over those numbers when Siraj, Avesh, Mavi, prasidh all clocked 149k. Heavy ball you are talking about isn't actually heavy ball. There is no such thing like heavy ball. It's just a rhetoric term told when they can't explain why a bowler suddenly surprises batsman. It's all about consistency or rather inconsistency of velocity with extra bounce that deceives the batsman. Yup I think there is fastest median slowest avg. speed funda behind it probably, some seasons are quicker but most are like current season. 145 seems to be the cap this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 Fastest balls by Indians largely dominated by Prasidh and Siraj .... with Bumrah in 3rd position. https://www.iplt20.com/stats/2021/fastest-balls vishalvirsingh and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoonyaSifar Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Average pace is overall down in this edition. IPL missing Nortje, Archer and Lockie. Saini, the lone Indian pacer on top 100 entry with 2 150 kmph deliveries is warming benches. Even Cummins and Rabada didn't go flat out. Could also be due to players being tired. Last year lot of them were well rested and fresh Edited April 16, 2021 by ShoonyaSifar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickydev Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Average pace is overall down in this edition. IPL missing Nortje, Archer and Lockie. Saini, the lone Indian pacer on top 100 entry with 2 150 kmph deliveries is warming benches. Even Cummins and Rabada didn't go flat out. Could also be due to players being tired. Last year lot of them were well rested and fresh Yeah, the pitches are not conducive to flat out pace bowling. Only pace with movement has worked Also the domestic trundlers have really exploited the conditions well and fully maximised their abilities in trying to become death over specialists by bowling variations and yorkers. Cant fault the franchises if they stick with these guys. They are doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Chahar cleans up Mayank with a beautiful outswinger. Pitches middle and hits top of off. Forward Defence and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 Shami bounces out Raina with a snorter. Gets Rayudu next ball with another short ball. Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 Shami 4th over 138 ... good short ball 136 ... snorter bouncer ... OUT 138 ... short ball ... OUT 140 ... good yorker 140 141 ... attempted yorker themask, vishalvirsingh and Mosher 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoonyaSifar Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, express bowling said: Shami 4th over 138 ... good short ball 136 ... snorter bouncer ... OUT 138 ... short ball ... OUT 140 ... good yorker 140 141 ... attempted yorker He doesn't look in very good shape. Seems to have out on a few kilos during his recovery. Hopefully he will get leaner during IPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: He doesn't look in very good shape. Seems to have out on a few kilos during his recovery. Hopefully he will get leaner during IPL Yeah ... Shami is looking fat. Mosher and Indwin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Khaleel 141 express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Good pace and bounce on this pittch express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 Khaleel bowls first over at 136 k to 141 k. Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 Khaleel 2nd over 141 138 136 Wide Slower 134 137 Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 Vijay Shankar has picked up 2 wickets. This has been an IPL of slow-medium pacers and slower balls. Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, express bowling said: Khaleel 2nd over 141 138 136 Wide Slower 134 137 Khaleel to me has much more natural pace than Avesh but he too needs some work on his action. Edited April 17, 2021 by rkt.india Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed_thrills Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Khaleel to me has much more natural pace than Avesh but he too needs some work on his action. Both trundlers and not worth international call up Indwin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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