rkt.india Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 8 hours ago, Lord said: Yudhvir was good but played too little. Thakur and Madhwal are trundlers. Madhwal is one trick pony. Thakur isn't a trundler.
Suhaan Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Thakur isn't a trundler. He is 85%a trundler 15% pacer,even in 24 balls he will mostly clock below 135 in 16-17 deliveries He is young can pick/might be picking pace now for his age ,though Even Tyagi used to trundle most of the times with RR majority of times,has picked up pace now Mosher 1
rkt.india Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Suhaan said: He is 85%a trundler 15% pacer,even in 24 balls he will mostly clock below 135 in 16-17 deliveries He is young can pick/might be picking pace now for his age ,though Even Tyagi used to trundle most of the times with RR majority of times,has picked up pace now Even Steyn never bowled 140s all the time. A fast bowler does not need to bowl fast all the time that is brainless bowling especially in T20 cricket. a fast bowler should not bowl like a bowling machine. Edited May 26, 2023 by rkt.india
Suhaan Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 36 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Even Steyn never bowled 140s all the time. A fast bowler does not need to bowl fast all the time that is brainless bowling especially in T20 cricket. You are talking complete opposite in t20s I'm speaking facts ,most pacers bowl faster than usual in t20s brainless or not that is topic for another debate What I'm saying is about their current ability to bowl at pace, nothing related with what one needs to do express bowling and Mosher 2
Lone Wolf Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Suhaan said: He is 85%a trundler 15% pacer,even in 24 balls he will mostly clock below 135 in 16-17 deliveries He is young can pick/might be picking pace now for his age ,though Even Tyagi used to trundle most of the times with RR majority of times,has picked up pace now 135kph isn't particularly trundlerism either especially if one can bowl in 140's too. Likes of Boobie Bhaiya, Avesh K and Sandeep Sharma, Purple Patel are ideal flag bearers of trundlerism
Suhaan Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: 135kph isn't particularly trundlerism either especially if one can bowl in 140's too. Likes of Boobie Bhaiya, Avesh K and Sandeep Sharma, Purple Patel are ideal flag bearers of trundlerism Below 135 k for major part comes under trundlism Above names are called trundlers for very reason I'm not saying he will trundle in future as well,noone can't predict He is getting stronger,and this is where he is starting to pickup pace now At current rate,he will surely be a genuine pacer in 1-2 years time Edited May 26, 2023 by Suhaan MK55 and Mosher 2
vice Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 Some points regarding Madhwal. Yeah, he's on the shorter side but for LOI, with this skiddy action and yorker ability, there's utility for such bowlers. Apart from death bowling, what was another positive was that he was able to extract seam movement in the middle overs during that CSK game esp that delivery that got Pooran. IMO, his seam movement reminded me of Shami at the front along with good lines. First season, let's see how he shapes but some promise there. Harshit looked impressive just with that first glance. Easy effortless action, reminds of you someone like Cummins. Gives you the impression, he's looks good for the longer formats. He's got the height, physique, and bowling action for the longer formats. Pity Prasidth is injured, he's the ideal bowler for tests esp in SENA. tweaker and deepdynamo 2
vice Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 IMO lateral movement is biggest weapon against batsmen i.e seam or swing. Batsmen make errors with lateral movement or either change of pace. Monotone pace without changes in length, line, lateral movement will get punished. With pace, ideally you still need lateral movement or changes in pace, length, line for that optimal bowling. Same reason spinners bowling less than 100km deceive batsmen.
Mosher Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 Nasty skiddy bouncer by Madhwal. Hits Saha on the head. Suhaan and express bowling 2
Lord Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 9 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: 135kph isn't particularly trundlerism either especially if one can bowl in 140's too. Likes of Boobie Bhaiya, Avesh K and Sandeep Sharma, Purple Patel are ideal flag bearers of trundlerism Even Avesh clocked 140+ that way
Suhaan Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 Madhwal , consistent Yorker lengths fetches him Gill's wicket Mosher and express bowling 2
Need4Speed Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 40 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Madhwal , consistent Yorker lengths fetches him Gill's wicket just a bad day with dew\wet ball for Madhwal I guess? apart from thsoe slipped balls in last overs he came back well imo Suhaan 1
Need4Speed Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 10 hours ago, Suhaan said: Below 135 k for major part comes under trundlism Above names are called trundlers for very reason I'm not saying he will trundle in future as well,noone can't predict He is getting stronger,and this is where he is starting to pickup pace now At current rate,he will surely be a genuine pacer in 1-2 years time I believe if Yash Thakur can grow strength to strength and clock 140k consistently..with the control he has shown+more game time\maturity he gets..he is going to be a very good prospect Suhaan, Mosher and express bowling 3
express bowling Posted May 26, 2023 Author Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) Shami 144.5 k and 143 6 k Dismissed Wadhera too. Edited May 26, 2023 by express bowling Mosher and Suhaan 2
express bowling Posted May 26, 2023 Author Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) Nasty short ball by Hardik at 146 k ... injures Green's elbow. He has to walk off. Edited May 26, 2023 by express bowling MK55, Suhaan and Mosher 3
Suhaan Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Need4Speed said: I believe if Yash Thakur can grow strength to strength and clock 140k consistently..with the control he has shown+more game time\maturity he gets..he is going to be a very good prospect Yes express bowling and Need4Speed 2
express bowling Posted May 26, 2023 Author Posted May 26, 2023 Shami 143.5 k and extra bounce. Rohit dismissed. Mosher 1
Need4Speed Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 2 hours ago, vice said: Some points regarding Madhwal. Yeah, he's on the shorter side but for LOI, with this skiddy action and yorker ability, there's utility for such bowlers. Apart from death bowling, what was another positive was that he was able to extract seam movement in the middle overs during that CSK game esp that delivery that got Pooran. IMO, his seam movement reminded me of Shami at the front along with good lines. First season, let's see how he shapes but some promise there. Harshit looked impressive just with that first glance. Easy effortless action, reminds of you someone like Cummins. Gives you the impression, he's looks good for the longer formats. He's got the height, physique, and bowling action for the longer formats. Pity Prasidth is injured, he's the ideal bowler for tests esp in SENA. last year IPL..when I first noticed Harshit..I felt his action + high pace was getting difficult for him to control his line..after playing Ranji trophy since then and bowled lot more overs and some maturity..he looks well in control of that action..and good to me.. I also noticed that he bowls slower ball..however I can easily notice that when he tries it(easier to say watching on a chair though lol)..would like to get it more subtle atleast similar to Haris Rauf.. he already bowls good short ball..getting that slower bowl working more for him+ yorkers with experience and practice.. he is going to be a real prospect.. tweaker 1
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