express bowling Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 Prasidh has not been able to bowl his usual good length off stump stuff today. Suhaan and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, express bowling said: Harshal is occupying the seamer allrounder's slot at 8. Khaleel was competing with Arshdeep .... and should have got in because of his wicket taking ability, pace and bounce, which are more suited to Australia. Arshdeep isn't any use if not able to pick any wickets express bowling and Suhaan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalvirsingh Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 40 minutes ago, express bowling said: Harshal is occupying the seamer allrounder's slot at 8. Khaleel was competing with Arshdeep .... and should have got in because of his wicket taking ability, pace and bounce, which are more suited to Australia. Arsh has a unique capability to give least runs in his overs and probably that was acknowledged by one and all. Hardik is the pace all rounder, harshal does not fit into that. Khaleel in this form where he was bowling with Pace ( upto 145K) and showing that he is very clever as well ( slow balls too). He had taken more wickets than Harshal too. Harshal was picked on his last IPL form and not this. as of today's form in this IPL Khaleel has been the bowler who had got loads of wickets. ARSH and khaleel were ahead of Harshal for sure. i think Selectors do not apply their thoughts and do not discuss in detail. I am 100 percent sure that arsh and Khaleel would do better against africa in T20. Harshal is trying out various tricks but he is not worth playing for INDIA even at his best. Suhaan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Defence Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Terrible from Prasidh. Not a death bowler yet express bowling and Suhaan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 On 5/20/2022 at 7:56 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said: This is why i dnt want prasidh in t20 squad. He has too much downside as a t20 bowler 3 guys - Iyer, Rana n Moeen have scored against him all extremely vunerable against short ball , yet he bowled length at them . Height hai laga bouncer In middle over he hardly bowls hard length Inexperienced Incomplete bowler Just a one phase bowler that to hasnt been exceptional in any way Not good at death on days he can be very expensive which anyone can be but he can have many such days Have no 2nd skill Even in PP i havent seen him run through a side apart from game when it was jagging like crazy which in similar condition even Ishant sharma ran through top orders in IPL . Chahar on his days run through top order and has done that a lot plus has extra skill even in his best season (this one ) he is at 17 number I want umran 100% in XI but no way Umran n Prasidh can play together- U cant have two inexperienced n incomplete bowlers playing together. Too play Umran u need a full or two phase good , consistent n reliable bowler so it doesnt put a lot of pressure on Bumrah Only If those Pitches are going to be too spicy then only he shud go Every point repeated again- Praisdh is 3i's in t20- inexperienced, Incomplete and inconsistent bowler . Saw his numbers against hardik today , hardik has beaten him at almost 200 s/r - horrible numbers (a guy vunerable against high pace hard length balls) Texan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 RR need to figure out a way to include Kuldeep Sen. Boult and Prasidh both aren't death bowlers, Kuldeep has better ability to bowl yorkers at death in comparison to Prasidh. Prasidh at the moment is too reliant on his awkward bounce, which is a very good skill for ODI and Tests...but in T20 it's a big risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) . Edited May 24, 2022 by speedheat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Terrible bowling by prasidh fully submitted to Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Prasidh is unfortunately not ready for T20Is. He is too one-dimensional to fit the needs of T20s. I think he should focus on getting into the Test side and possibly in ODI side for start and middle overs only. Miller keeps saying "If it is in the arc, it is out of the park". Everyone knows his strengths. Giving him 3 back to back balls in the arc is just very bad thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Want them to Groom kartik Tyagi. He can be an all phase bowler. Good with Yorkers. express bowling, Suhaan and singhvivek141 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said: Arsh has a unique capability to give least runs in his overs and probably that was acknowledged by one and all. Hardik is the pace all rounder, harshal does not fit into that. Khaleel in this form where he was bowling with Pace ( upto 145K) and showing that he is very clever as well ( slow balls too). He had taken more wickets than Harshal too. Harshal was picked on his last IPL form and not this. as of today's form in this IPL Khaleel has been the bowler who had got loads of wickets. ARSH and khaleel were ahead of Harshal for sure. i think Selectors do not apply their thoughts and do not discuss in detail. I am 100 percent sure that arsh and Khaleel would do better against africa in T20. Harshal is trying out various tricks but he is not worth playing for INDIA even at his best. The TM has made it amply clear that they want a seam bowling all-rounder at No.8 Candidates being Harshal, Deepak and Shardul. Hardik will bat at 6. Different roles. This leaves only 2 spots for specialist pacers. One will be Bumrah. We are searching for the other pacer. And that pacer should be a new ball bowler who can bowl in Australia. And Khaleel is more suited to this role than Arshdeep.. Edited May 25, 2022 by express bowling Mosher, Suhaan and vishalvirsingh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, express bowling said: And Khaleel is more suited to this role than Arshdeep.. That will be counted as "overhype" by some ustads Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Mujhe ye samajh nahi aata Har Fun Maula chaiye bowling me? Fun milega फन nahi, don't look for every trait in a fast bowler Categorise them for their special ability All phase bowlers are rare,just see how well they do in their strong phases T20 cricket needs simple/subtle research express bowling and Mosher 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: Want them to Groom kartik Tyagi. He can be an all phase bowler. Good with Yorkers. Tyagi is temperamentally quite strong too. But he is being ignored by both Team India ( not picked as a net bowler after the Aussie tour even when fit ) and his franchise SRH ( dropped from a meaningless last game even ) Edited May 25, 2022 by express bowling Suhaan, Mosher and singhvivek141 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Mujhe ye samajh nahi aata Har Fun Maula chaiye bowling me? Fun milega फन nahi, don't look for every trait in a fast bowler Categorise them for their special ability All phase bowlers are rare,just see how well they do in their strong phases T20 cricket needs simple/subtle research + 2000 Can't agree more. We look for Jack of all trades and master of none. We don't pick players based on roles but just names and overall performances. Which is why some people can't understand the need for Hardik type batsmen in the last 5 overs of T20s and last 10 overs of ODIs. Similarly, in the pace bowling department, our selectors can't understand that we need a new ball bowler who can take wickets upfront. They just go for pacers who are passable in every phase. Edited May 25, 2022 by express bowling Mosher and Suhaan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: Want them to Groom kartik Tyagi. He can be an all phase bowler. Good with Yorkers. Tyagi will be a GOLD, his skills are way better than his counterparts. Unfortunately, he is stuck with a franchise like SRH where Bhuvi, Natarajan are the first choice. express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Tyagi is temperamentally quite strong too. But he is being ignored by both Team India ( not picked as a net bowler after the Aussie tour even when fit ) and his franchise SRH ( dropped from a meaningless last game even ) He injured batsmen in the nets so they didn't pick him as a net bowler after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Suhaan said: That will be counted as "overhype" by some ustads Khaleel has 16 wickets in 10 games at 19 with ER 8. Arshdeep 10 in 14 games at 38 with ER at 7.70. his ER isn't 5.7 to ignore the average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Kuldeep Sen can be another all phase bowler. Swings and seams the new ball. Can bowl Yorkers as well. singhvivek141 and Mosher 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 49 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: Can't agree ,these days you need everything as a bowler,there is no place to hide. Look at prasidh ,he is like Umesh of old, just bowls outswingers outside off, albeit with more bounce but that's not enough .He is too reliant on helpful conditions ,since he doesn't use the new ball effectively as he can't get his outswingers on the stumps and open up the right handers to hit the off stump with the new ball, something Umesh has learnt after all these years.Then he can't bowl the inswingers to the right handers ,also struggles for lbws against left handers from over the wicket. Can't nail those yorkers ,his only slower ball is the off cutter and even that gets picked easily by the batsman and then he is too intelligent to bowl bouncers. It's not just about getting hit but the way he bowls,it's all very one dimensional and the batsman can line him up if they can get hold of his attempted wide outswingers and off cutters. A young fast bowler who can bowl 145 clicks only need to learn three deliveries at the start in T20s hard length, bouncer and Yorker. Just perfect them as well as possible. don't give bad balls. Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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