express bowling Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, Mesky99 said: Yep they base their opinions on their own silly little perceptions, plus Zak and co are just celebrity coaches, do bare minimum coaching and collect a fat pay check. There were many quick bowlers 10-12 years back to, I can a name a dozen who probably never got a fair run and had genuine ability, Pawan suyal from Delhi was effortless 140kph bowler, parvinder Awana could bowl quick, Abu nechim Ahmed, sudip tyagi, even dinda was a whole hearted bowler, just lacked a proper setup and pathetic coaches who would never bank on a quick bowler in first class cricket instead go with trundlers to run through teams on greenish pitches. Add to that Rahul Shukla. One issue was that, apart from Sudip Tyagi, all others were on the shorter side and it's more difficult for such pacers to do well unless one is as skilful as Shami. Vijy, Mosher and Suhaan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 Prasidh dismisses Stoinis with s slower ball that was outside his hitting arc. Good to see. Suhaan and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 Prasidh 141.6 k good yorker It was preceded by a slower ball.and a vicious bouncer. Good to see him mixing things up in the death overs. Definite improvement in his death bowling skills. Last year he may have got hit for 20+ by a rampaging Stoinis. This year he dismisses him. singhvivek141, Mosher and Suhaan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesky99 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: Nah. Munaf when bowled 140+ used to run in hard and put effort. He slowed down once he started imitating McGrath, started running gingerly. The only time munaf ran in hard and bowled quick was in the series against wi and a few odi's against England at home. He was apparently express before his debut and bowled some quick spells for Mumbai but suffered two major injuries before his international debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesky99 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 3 hours ago, express bowling said: Add to that Rahul Shukla. One issue was that, apart from Sudip Tyagi, all others were on the shorter side and it's more difficult for such pacers to do well unless one is as skilful as Shami. Ohh yes, remember shukla bowling real quick in the 2013 cl for RR. Mithun I remember was hitting decent speeds back in 2011 for RR, nathu Singh got wasted and instead India picked the likes of barinder Sean, rishi dhawan In 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK55 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Bowlers like Avesh n Mohsin don’t excite me. You gotta be strong enough to maintain intensity. If you can’t do it for 4 overs then that’s a problem. Also u can’t do that for one match and then go missing for the next few. Getting wickets is a different issue. But fitness is controllable. Bumrah Prasidh and Umran are the most exciting for me. Would complement each other nicely. Bumrah is totally unique and there’s literally no one in the world that has got Umran pace right now. Now is the time to utilize him. Prasidh has got more aggressive lately n I’m loving that! Mosher, express bowling, rollingstoned and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 9 hours ago, express bowling said: Prasidh 141.6 k good yorker It was preceded by a slower ball.and a vicious bouncer. Good to see him mixing things up in the death overs. Definite improvement in his death bowling skills. Last year he may have got hit for 20+ by a rampaging Stoinis. This year he dismisses him. DK in one of the interviews on cricbuzz told that Prasidh is a thinking bowler. He has his own mind and makes his own plans. You shouldn't interfere with his plans much and let him decide what he wants to do. Because he knows his strengths and limits. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 Prasidh won the Swiggy Fastest Ball of the match bowling 145.9 kph Suhaan and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 7 hours ago, MK55 said: Bumrah Prasidh and Umran are the most exciting for me. Would complement each other nicely. Bumrah is totally unique and there’s literally no one in the world that has got Umran pace right now. Now is the time to utilize him. Prasidh has got more aggressive lately n I’m loving that! Agree strongly .... and I would add Tyagi to that list as my choice too. MK55 and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, express bowling said: Agree strongly .... and I would add Tyagi to that list as my choice too. And Kuldeep Sen. Prasidh, Umran, Kartik and Kuldeep is the quartet to groom for future. BCCI must send them to NCA under Troy Cooley for a proper grooming camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, rkt.india said: And Kuldeep Sen. Prasidh, Umran, Kartik and Kuldeep is the quartet to groom for future. BCCI must send them to NCA under Troy Cooley for a proper grooming camp. Yes. And Tyagi should work on his batting too, so that this bowling attack is possible on faster or bouncier tracks in tests in the near future. 7. Jadeja 8. Tyagi 9. Bumrah 10. Umran 11. Prasidh Edited May 16, 2022 by express bowling Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, express bowling said: Yes. And Tyagi should work on his batting too, so that this bowling attack is possible on faster or bouncier tracks in tests in the near future. 7. Jadeja 8. Tyagi 9. Bumrah 10. Umran 11. Prasidh Simarjeet looks a very good prospect for red ball cricket unless Dhoni trundelizes him express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, express bowling said: Yes. And Tyagi should work on his batting too, so that this bowling attack is possible on faster or bouncier tracks in tests in the near future. 7. Jadeja 8. Tyagi 9. Bumrah 10. Umran 11. Prasidh Could be the fastest attack ever to have played together. All four bowling 90 mph plus. express bowling and Suhaan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Yes. And Tyagi should work on his batting too, so that this bowling attack is possible on faster or bouncier tracks in tests in the near future. 7. Jadeja 8. Tyagi 9. Bumrah 10. Umran 11. Prasidh given paucity of batting talent, it partly makes sense why selectors wanted AR even at 8 (like Lord Thakur). As I do not expect our overseas batting to improve much anytime, we should not worry about batting - just accept that we will keep getting rolled out for scores of 150-250 most times. instead, the emphasis might be to select the best 5 bowlers irrespective of their batting abilities. on this note, jaddu is done - too many shoulder issues and his bowling is not that potent or accurate. better to have kuldeep yadav at 7 since he is a genuine wicket taking option. even though we will have 5 no. 11s, that is not an issue for the reasons I wrote. our top 6 will be quite mediocre, so it's unfair to expect nos. 7-11 to contribute in any tangible form. TL;DR --> fast and furious is the way to go. get 4 bowlers capable of crossing 145 kph (as peak speeds) Edited May 16, 2022 by Vijy Suhaan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Vijy said: given paucity of batting talent, it partly makes sense why selectors wanted AR even at 8 (like Lord Thakur). As I do not expect our overseas batting to improve much anytime, we should not worry about batting - just accept that we will keep getting rolled out for scores of 150-250 most times. instead, the emphasis might be to select the best 5 bowlers irrespective of their batting abilities. on this note, jaddu is done - too many shoulder issues and his bowling is not that potent or accurate. better to have kuldeep yadav at 7 since he is a genuine wicket taking option. even though we will have 5 no. 11s, that is not an issue for the reasons I wrote. our top 6 will be quite mediocre, so it's unfair to expect nos. 7-11 to contribute in any tangible form. TL;DR --> fast and furious is the way to go. get 4 bowlers capable of crossing 145 kph (as peak speeds) Yea more entertaining too. Don't care about batting. We will have to find the 6 best technical players with no weakness vs bounce and spin overseas. In India we have depth in all rounders for Asian conditions. Fast bowling is the way to go overseas. Hopefully fingers crossed tyagi can bat to a rabada level in tests. We need one premier bowler to bat to a starc Cummins level. I think bumrah actually has some talent to time shots. Hope he does some work on it or perhaps the new ones like Sen or umran can add some tools to their batting ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 4 hours ago, express bowling said: Yes. And Tyagi should work on his batting too, so that this bowling attack is possible on faster or bouncier tracks in tests in the near future. 7. Jadeja 8. Tyagi 9. Bumrah 10. Umran 11. Prasidh I would add two more names to the list...Yash Dayal & Arshdeep I am impressed with Yash's temperament, he seems unfazed with the batsman and focus on what skills he has got. I saw him in SMAT and he did a good job there, and so far in IPL as well he has bowled well. In terms of pace as well, I think he has the potential to bowl even faster than what he is bowling now (137-142). Arshdeep for now, I see him as a T20 specialist. But I think he can be serviceable for us in ODI's as well. Test wise, may not be at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, MultiB48 said: Then whom ?sangwan? Umesh to some extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 57 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: Saurabh Dubey is quite tall,got injured, wonder how he bowls. 6 foot 5. Seems to have decent pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Jay said: Yea more entertaining too. Don't care about batting. We will have to find the 6 best technical players with no weakness vs bounce and spin overseas. In India we have depth in all rounders for Asian conditions. Fast bowling is the way to go overseas. Hopefully fingers crossed tyagi can bat to a rabada level in tests. We need one premier bowler to bat to a starc Cummins level. I think bumrah actually has some talent to time shots. Hope he does some work on it or perhaps the new ones like Sen or umran can add some tools to their batting ability. fat chance of that happening. all our bats are either technically limited or have very poor fitness levels. moreover, none of our bowlers are interested in learning how to bat. they are sub-boult level of batting, i.e., genuine no. 11s. boult is at least a genuine no. 10 as I wrote, best bet is to try and roll out opposition early and hope that the crappy batting can muster 250-300 somehow rollingstoned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Vijy said: none of our bowlers are interested in learning how to bat. Bumrah to some extent has improved his batting, even Umesh's batting is now at a no 9 level. Thakur & Chahar have improved their batting as well. It's Shami and Bhuvi's batting which had gone down the drain. In spinners, Bishnoi, Kuldeep Yadav & Rahul Chahar...all 3 can bat Edited May 16, 2022 by singhvivek141 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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