beetle 20,053 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 He doesn't bat in nets when he's not scoring, Ricky Ponting recalls Prithvi Shaw's 'interesting' training habits https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/ipl/top-stories/he-doesnt-bat-in-nets-when-hes-not-scoring-ricky-ponting-recalls-prithvi-shaws-interesting-training-habits/articleshow/81914312.cms One doesn't want net practice when out of form and the other thinks SR is not important. kya kya sapne dekhe the humne sage, saik, sorak and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beetle 20,053 Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 WTh!!!!!What ego! How does someone who has not achieved anything yet have the guts to not listen to his coach....that too when he was doing so bad with the bat? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ankit_sharma03 23,332 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) dnt think its ego, players know what works for them. Sometimes taking time off is the best thing. IF he was lazy he wudnt wanna face more balls when he is in form. Gavaskar n tendulkar skipped nets a lot in latter part of their career. At times ppl over rate practice,its better to take time off sometimes . Sehwag always said he knew he only needs to face certain number of balls in nets but someone like gambhir needed 10 times more Edited April 5 by Ankit_sharma03 nevada 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Wolf 2,019 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I am pretty sure after the Adelaide test dude was practicing alright. Maybe over confidence got to him in IPl. I think he did get a reality check sooner which is good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beetle 20,053 Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 9 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: dnt think its ego, players know what works for them. Sometimes taking time off is the best thing. IF he was lazy he wudnt wanna face more balls when he is in form. Gavaskar n tendulkar skipped nets a lot in latter part of their career. At times ppl over rate practice,its better to take time off sometimes . Sehwag always said he knew he only needs to face certain number of balls in nets but someone like gambhir needed 10 times more Gavaskar ,Tendulkar and Sehwag probably did it when they had made it and knew what worked for them. It is too early for Shaw . Besides how is the coach supposed to work on someone's shortcomings if he won't put in the effort. velu, New guy and sorak 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beetle 20,053 Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 What could be the reason for coming out with this in public? Ponting giving a warning early in the season? If true,then I am glad it is out. If he has attitude problems,he will know it is in public now. sorak 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShoonyaSifar 4,412 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Never ever good for a coach or a selector to say such things publicly about a young player. How is this going to help Shaw? Unless the idea here to motivate him by asking ng hai m to prove the coach wrong. Again, that could either ways if a player isn't mentally as strong as say someone like Pant. Having said that Punter is one guy who can really help Shaw get back on track and set him up for international success for a decade or more. He was a complete j**k as an individual, but achieved legendary status through sheer grit, determination and disciplined hard work, wasn't the most naturally gifted player. If he could pass on even a bit of those qualities, especially discipline, to Shaw, all the potential will start getting converted into consistent performances. BacktoCricaddict 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beetle 20,053 Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 May be Shaw gave him a tough time last year and he does not want the repeat happening again .... trying to prevent it from happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ankit_sharma03 23,332 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 27 minutes ago, beetle said: Gavaskar ,Tendulkar and Sehwag probably did it when they had made it and knew what worked for them. sehwag was same from starting 27 minutes ago, beetle said: It is too early for Shaw . Besides how is the coach supposed to work on someone's shortcomings if he won't put in the effort. didnt amre work on it, every player cant follow same method. Technical issues creep generally becoz of bad habbits for some it works out with extra practice and for some it works out by taking mind off. Every player has to be treated differently thats what man management is. Problem was if he didnt work had all any time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Late Cut 115 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Good things don't happen without hard work- after a certain point, talent cant get you any further. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New guy 6,116 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: sehwag was same from starting didnt amre work on it, every player cant follow same method. Technical issues creep generally becoz of bad habbits for some it works out with extra practice and for some it works out by taking mind off. Every player has to be treated differently thats what man management is. Problem was if he didnt work had all any time A 21 year old has absolutely no way to decide what works for him. Players grow and change and find new things. There is no way a 21 year old player can already decide what works for him In the end basics are important. What method are you even talking about when Shaw didn't even take the nets so absolutely no method was even tried beetle 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ankit_sharma03 23,332 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 6 minutes ago, New guy said: A 21 year old has absolutely no way to decide what works for him. Players grow and change and find new things. There is no way a 21 year old player can already decide what works for him In the end basics are important. What method are you even talking about when Shaw didn't even take the nets so absolutely no method was even tried Every player knows what works for him at international level . Ull hear every cricketer saying take a bit of time off when form isnt good coz u keep repeating bad habbits in nets making it worse . Working in nets in a middle of a tournament is far different then going away from team and working on basics Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zen 11,387 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 You can feel that there is something wrong about Shaw ... there are many things he needs to work on including fielding ... since Ind has many options, it is his loss if he does not push himself sorak 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mariyam 6,337 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) 13 hours ago, beetle said: WTh!!!!!What ego! How does someone who has not achieved anything yet have the guts to not listen to his coach....that too when he was doing so bad with the bat? Semantic gap. This is the media sensationalizing the issue. Most probably, Shaw doesn't understand what Ponting is saying. Many a times, during the game when they go to Ponting for a sound byte, I don't understand anything. The language sounds familiar but its all gargle punctuated by the occasional 'mayte'. Edited April 6 by Mariyam Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mariyam 6,337 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) Ricky Ponting's biggest talent lies in the gentle art of seeking favours under the guise of conferring them. He talked his way into a coaching contract and made it seem like we needed him. And now he's calling out our youngsters for non issues like being unfit and skipping training. Edited April 6 by Mariyam Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sarchasm 3,062 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 7 hours ago, zen said: You can feel that there is something wrong about Shaw Where do you feel it specifically? Your anal sphincter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zen 11,387 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Just now, sarchasm said: Where do you feel it specifically? Your anal sphincter? in your ugly demeanour wc2023 and sarchasm 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheWall 999 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 He should never be let into the national team Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Global.Baba 8,641 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 16 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Every player knows what works for him at international level . Ull hear every cricketer saying take a bit of time off when form isnt good coz u keep repeating bad habbits in nets making it worse . Working in nets in a middle of a tournament is far different then going away from team and working on basics what works for you should be handled in private. When you are part of a professional set up, you have a hierarchy and rules to follow, you have to follow them. If Ponting as a coach wanted to see his game in the nets and find flaws, he should have obeyed him. So a player can refuse things to his captain,coach,management etc on the pretext that it doesn’t works for him ? Wonder if this is the attitude Shaw has towards Ponting, I wonder how he feels about taking tips from Rathour. beetle 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kirkutfan 314 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I think that loss of form in the IPL messed up Shaw mentally. And, when he was in that slump, he was in no mood to practice. Think Ponting should have handled that privately and helped give the guy the tools necessary to handle failure, mentally. My guess is Shaw will have learned from this. He has taken the first step with fighting his way back by scoring in domestic tournaments. I really hope he does well this IPL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
