Virat vs Rohit - Head to head as IPL captains

[Stan AF]

This is ICF's no brainer thread of the week. . Bravo, well done actually.

 

That Rohit hasn't been made INDIAN white ball captain is india's loss. There are ample examples where Kohli has screwed up for both India and in RCB. The fact that he still gets to be rcb captain after 8 seasons of failure is a goddamn miracle in itself.

[Adamant]

30 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

How did you think they got their Indian debut??

By batting well in IPL and earning their spots bcoz of their own ability. 

[Stan AF]

33 minutes ago, Adamant said:

By batting well in IPL and earning their spots bcoz of their own ability. 

 

They wouldn't have that chance if Rohit didn't believe in them and give chances. Ishan especially was given a 2nd chance as he was dropped from the team and he was a non-starter in the 11.

Edited April 9, 2021 by Stan AF

[sage]

1 hour ago, rageaddict said:

What are the head to head statistics between RCB and MI ? 

Total number of matches played: 29

Matches won by MI: 19

Matches won by RCB: 10

[ShoonyaSifar]

56 minutes ago, sage said:

Total number of matches played: 29

Matches won by MI: 19

Matches won by RCB: 10

Till 2013 the H2H was even..RCB and MI won 5 match each. Both were mid table teams with some sparks.

 

Since then, when the respective captains took over, it's 14/5 in favour of MI (last one won by RCB in super over).

 

And since 2016 when Kohli became the India captain, the record is 8/2 in favour of MI. Rohit seems to have got that extra motivation since then 

[New guy]

3 hours ago, Adamant said:

So Rohit extracts the best out of players.. 

So how come the same SKY and Kishan did well under Kohli in the last series. 

As for pollard, the guy was smoking sixes in various t20 leagues and was in the form of his life last year. 

 

Relating a batman's performance with captaincy shows the cricket illiteracy, a good player can score well under any freaking captain. 

 

 

they FIRST did well under Rohit and came to Kohli as finished products. 

 

Pollard has been past it for a long time but Rohit still knows how to use it best. 

 

Man management is the WHOLE point of captaincy, if getting best use out of players didnt matter, no team would need a captain except for toss

[Adamant]

36 minutes ago, New guy said:

they FIRST did well under Rohit and came to Kohli as finished products. 

 

Pollard has been past it for a long time but Rohit still knows how to use it best. 

 

Man management is the WHOLE point of captaincy, if getting best use out of players didnt matter, no team would need a captain except for toss

Bhai get over it. 

Rohit is no connoisseur infact no one is, they are all third class chauthi fail. 

 

A player deserves credit when he plays a good innings not the captain. 

 

On 2018 tour to aus Pant was our second best batsman under Kohli, how did that happen even though Kohli can't get the best out of a player? 

The reality is that this is all BS, credit goes to the player himself. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

[BacktoCricaddict]

8 hours ago, gattaca said:

 

just shows you need a good organization  and the office running it. Mumbai is far ahead of RCB.

There is an article about how Mahela Jayawardene grooms youngsters.  His contributions have delivered fully prepared players like Ishan Kishan to the Indian team.   

[Majestic]

3 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Till 2013 the H2H was even..RCB and MI won 5 match each. Both were mid table teams with some sparks.

 

Since then, when the respective captains took over, it's 14/5 in favour of MI (last one won by RCB in super over).

 

And since 2016 when Kohli became the India captain, the record is 8/2 in favour of MI. Rohit seems to have got that extra motivation since then 

I think some of those wins also have come because of ABD's exploits like the one last year or that 133* vs MI he got some time back.

[kruiser]

Watch the docu series on MI. The support staff scrutinizes every single aspect and develops the players. Captains are served a ready made dish, they only have to present it, all the cooking is done by the chefs. 

[zen]

7 hours ago, Mariyam said:

@zen I don't understand the point you are trying to make with those batting statistics. Rohit Sharma has contributed to building the  team franchise. He has selected and nurtured a set of players.

 

If Kohli has *only* ABDV, he has himself to blame. In 8 years he couldn't develop a support system in the RCB squad. 

 

I would have liked to compare win ratios in knock out games for the two captains. But Kohli's team wouldn't provide for many data points.

The point is that first a player should be good enough to make it to the side as a batsman!

 

There is a team that scouts and selects players in IPL.  Appears as if you have started to believe  that Sharma actually picked SDP, Bumrah, etc., and maybe even himself  

 

If Kohli is not a good captain, groom a youngster, who can serve Ind for more years. Rohit can be a good captain but his boat may have passed as a batsman when considering the long term impact

 

Also I like to steer away from the “propaganda” of Rohit fanboys, many are Sachin fanatics now supporting Rohit, who have habitually written against other Ind players whether Gavaskar, Dravid or whoever (now Kohli) as they are as good as or better than Sachin  

Edited April 9, 2021 by zen

[zen]

3 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

Sharma made choozaas like Pandya into the crowing roosters they are today. The only downside is that now we have to suffer your cringe af 'nicknames' for them.

Ok and I guess, himself, Kishan, R Chahar,  QdK, Jensen, Pollard, Malinga, Boult, etc., too

Edited April 9, 2021 by zen

[zen]

1 minute ago, sarchasm said:

No, not all of them you dumb duck.

Yes, smartass, we believe that “conveniently” he made SDP while doing zilch with others 

[zen]

1 minute ago, sarchasm said:

Rohit is the winner, the shepherd, the jesus. Rohit is the madaari, Pandya is his bhaalu.

 ... first let Rohit develop himself :

Edited April 9, 2021 by zen

[sandeep]

have they put a mat on the side wickets to protect them?  Looks so orange on either side....

[zen]

13 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

Uff, the searing comeback of this witless bore. Yeah, you better spend your days coming up with gems like SDP

For me to make a “comeback”, you would have to be ahead first ... and to be ahead, you first have to not be so fragile 

[sarcastic]

And I think Kohli is winning this match over Rohit today....

 

[Vilander]

9 hours ago, Adamant said:

So Rohit extracts the best out of players.. 

So how come the same SKY and Kishan did well under Kohli in the last series. 

As for pollard, the guy was smoking sixes in various t20 leagues and was in the form of his life last year. 

 

Relating a batman's performance with captaincy shows the cricket illiteracy, a good player can score well under any freaking captain. 

 

 

Captaincy has value during bowling ( attack) and chase in death overs ( order) again attack.  It has value during middle overs in odi batting with the order ( but only contibutive). Captaincy has value in players feeling secure enough to play freely. Someone who is not trust worthy cant be a captain, Rohit is more trusted than kohli. Thats abt it everything else is fluff I agree. 

[Vilander]

2 hours ago, sarchasm said:

Uff, the searing comeback of this witless bore. Yeah, you better spend your days coming up with gems like SDP

I dislike the term SDP from @zen dislike this @sarchasm  guy more because of his general douchebagary.. really divided in down voting up voting this damn. Let me up vote the douchebag cause he is right a douche you can walk away but a cringe troll you can't.