Vk1 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Cant stand these 150 scores and sub-standard bowlers picking wickets for fun.. some shabad guy, unadkats, even boult picking wickets at death.. best of finishers unable to time the ball.. wonder when cricket will be able to evolve, become scientific to cater pitches as per their will and not just relying solely on groundsman.. we already find test matches ending in 3-4 days.. barely see a double century.. almost impossible to score triple.. game very much in favor of bowlers.. Now, its not that every T20 should be 400+ game but avg first innings score has got to be 170+ to create some entertainment.. what we have seen in the last week is pretty poor imho.. u play 10 flat tracks and then see 1,2 such games its fine.. seeing back to back 5-6 such games is depressing to see. vijaydude, express bowling and ShoonyaSifar 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vk1 Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: Just shows how ordinary these hyped up batsmen are ,can't bat on anything less than a perfect batting pitch . this is actually a trade off to the exceptional hitting abilities they have developed in the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoonyaSifar Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 53 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: Just shows how ordinary these hyped up batsmen are ,can't bat on anything less than a perfect batting pitch . Problem is the extreme nature of these pitches. Mumbai has put up seaming pitches with uneven bounce, Chepauk has had torturous sluggish pitches which keep getting slower and lower. Makes for a boring viewing experience. PSL in UAE used to have similar pitches and was a complete dud for years. Do we want IPL to go the same way? Put the legends of the past on these same tracks, they will struggle to get to 100-110. Team's used to regularly defend 170-180 in ODIs on such pitches in 90s and 200-220 in even 2000s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoonyaSifar Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: when did that happen ? after 96 wc anything less than 300 was impossible to defend in indian condition . most of these batsmen are quite ordinary ,only virat is atg but he is out of form ,pant is in the form of his life, once that subsides he will struggle , you can throw in rohit as well ,rest are all average players. Check the stats once again. The 300+ scores were on flat pitches, not after 1996 but more after the 2003 WC. We are talking about spinning/sluggish/seaming wickets in ODIs. Those legends had their own struggles on such wickets. Remember some of the matches in SL or WI, even 230-240 was a defendable total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoonyaSifar Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 48 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: when did that happen ? after 96 wc anything less than 300 was impossible to defend in indian condition . most of these batsmen are quite ordinary ,only virat is atg but he is out of form ,pant is in the form of his life, once that subsides he will struggle , you can throw in rohit as well ,rest are all average players. We are talking about IPL here. Ok our batsmen are pathetic as you say. Are batsmen like Warner, Faf, QDK, Morgan, Buttler, Shakib, Gayle, Pooran average as well? Everyone has struggled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 The pitches are fine the FTB'S should learn how to bat. Matlab bas ball balle pe chahiye inhe, ther shouldn't be any spin or swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijaydude Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 You might as well produce super-flat decks in Tests and call them "fine" too if you are going to call these pitches fine. These are pathetic pitches for a premier T20 tournament. Makes for an appalling viewing to say the least. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: these are a bunch of out of form or retired batsmen ,and even otherwise likes of warner, morgan, buttler thrived on easy batting conditions ,these conditions are indeed too difficult for them. 19 minutes ago, vijaydude said: You might as well produce super-flat decks in Tests and call them "fine" too if you are going to call these pitches fine. These are pathetic pitches for a premier . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: these are a bunch of out of form or retired batsmen ,and even otherwise likes of warner, morgan, buttler thrived on easy batting conditions ,these conditions are indeed too difficult for them. 40 minutes ago, Adamant said: The pitches are fine the FTB'S should learn how to bat. Matlab bas ball balle pe chahiye inhe, ther shouldn't be any spin or swing. You guys are pretending as if the pitches are swinging or spinning a lot. The only reason batsmen are strugglinf is because they are sticky, slow wicket where ball keeps stopping throwing off timing. Its absolutely nothing to do with quality fo pitches. They are poor rubbish pitches not suitable for playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, MultiB48 said: Just shows how ordinary these hyped up batsmen are ,can't bat on anything less than a perfect batting pitch . Ordinary batsmen don't score 150 at 7 plus rpo in 20 overs on such pitches. Cricket has always been a highly condition dependent sport. On such pitches in 90s, 4 rpo used to be a norm. In 2003 and 2007 WC, we struggled to score 4 rpo against Holland and BD on similar slow sluggish pitches. Edited April 18, 2021 by rkt.india express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoonyaSifar Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: these are a bunch of out of form or retired batsmen ,and even otherwise likes of warner, morgan, buttler thrived on easy batting conditions ,these conditions are indeed too difficult for them. Everyone is bad. Pitches are great. Enjoy the borefest. I do hope that for your sake, they make it even tougher for batsmen and we see under 100 scores in each match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: it's either too fast or too slow for them unless it matches their hand eye coordination nicely. Who is them? Its just a pathetic wicket where openers themselves time well initially and towards the end the same settled batsmen find it difficult to time. Not a consistent or a good wicket at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoonyaSifar Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: cricket was not designed to entertain the masses, though it can on occasions.If it's too boring then they should put on something else . Do share this with the IPL franchises. I'm sure they'd love these compelling arguments on why IPL needs more boring matches to keep the traditions of cricket alive. vijaydude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vk1 Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 when do we put an end to these nonsensical pitches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 On 4/18/2021 at 1:21 PM, MultiB48 said: That has a lot to do with better bats and keeping the balls from getting too worn out. Yea past is always better at everything. Future players always get worse as time progresses. Our Indian test team is an ATG level Tema for god sake. Power hitting is on another level. It's not just bats. Power and aggressive play is lightyears ahead past eras. There is a trade off for techique though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vk1 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 yet another 120-140 pitch.. kill the game man.. kill it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianCapitals Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 is it really a 120 pitch when chasing team is 50/0 in 6 overs when it’s supposed to be tougher to bat poor batting these days automatically gets labeled as poor pitch we are doing exactly what England did during test series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 It is the responsibility of sides to assess the pitch and play accordingly. We miss the fact a lot of teams depend on one or two players and when they go they look out of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vk1 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 15 hours ago, Jay said: Yea past is always better at everything. Future players always get worse as time progresses. Our Indian test team is an ATG level Tema for god sake. Power hitting is on another level. It's not just bats. Power and aggressive play is lightyears ahead past eras. There is a trade off for techique though. Totally agree with you.. we cannot criticize our 1980's ODI players for scoring too slow.. cant blame our players beyond a point when even Pujara is struggling in home tests.. players will always be products of the times.. pitches have to be as per the format.. just for comparison sake.. Lara's 400 is now a boring thing as that test went into a tame draw.. Lara's 151 against Aus on a challenging pitch was million times better.. Test pitches should favor bowling.. ODIs.. some sort of balance slightly skewed in favor of batsmen T20s.. mostly favoring batsman.. min of 170 scores.. occassional <150 is fine but not like these chennai, kotla pitches Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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