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48 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Khaleel struggles to get into Rajasthan Ranji team ahead of Aniket and Tanvirul Haq. and yet you want him to be picked fo the test squad? Khaleel's red ball skills are still unproven. Arzan is a proper FC bowler. Nothing wrong in his selection

Domestic state selections are 100 percent wrong nearly at all times dear and there is no contention or fight too. Lil noise is made but ignored.

 

I have followed Mumbai team selections. Do you know d kulkarni was selected ahead of zaheer Khan and shardul Thakur for many matches. One more fast bowler who is the best fast bowler for Mumbai was benched and shardul was played.

 

Prasidh was finding it tough to play for his state team  12 months before but today everyone including kohli and shastri are tracking his carona status as they want him to go to england.

You should be 100 percent sure that the fast bowling unit that represents Mumbai are not the best three pacers in Mumbai.

 

Indian selection committee is answerable to Indian public and many important folks and that is why you are seeing fairly good selections.

Would you believe that India had only 1 pacer kapil Dev and other spinners..no other pacer came up and if they did they were not supported at all. There was huge politics at indian selection also.

 

I can remember so many good fast bowlers who were as good as kapil dev and they hardly played 2 to 3 international matches and dumped. Even bharat arun played one or two matches only.

Srinath was not played for so many matches when prabhakar and kapil played and in the first match when Srinath played, he out bowled both of them.

Srinath was bowling around 142 to 146k and these two guys bowled in early 120"s.

 

I remember listening to commentary and kapil bowling 25 overs + to get a no 11 batsman out to get his 432 wickets trying to break a record.

Kapil should have retired when his leg was operated n he was hurt. He played and stopped many to debut.

Brother... rajasthan not playing khaleel and playing a fatty aniket Chowdhury is a joke. Seriously wrong call. He bowled quick n fast and in next ipl he will perform better and soon play for India.

 

 

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I may be wrong as I have just seen a few videos of nagwaswalla.

I hope he proves me wrong and bowls fast and produces banana swing and takes bucket full of wickets.

My understanding is he has nattu"s pace and a lil less skilled than Nattu.

If you pick him as reserves than what's wrong with Sir jaydev unadkkkut.

Both are probably same pace and unadkat is skilled for sure.

 

Point I am making is that Indian selectors had picked Saini umesh ishant umesh boom earlier. This was a phenomenal selection. All 140 + bowlers. If Saini lost his mojo as he was not played ..support him get him back into form.

He is a Pedigree bowler..a 145k true talent .. support him. Supporting a 130 k Trundler and Saini is about to be lost exactly as Varun Aroon.

Varun Aroon was fastest India produced ..faster than umesh and Srinath. He was not supported.

Umesh n Shammi n boom got lucky ..they got support from kohli. Varun was benched by dhoni and then dumped.

Saini should have been picked as a reserve at least.

 

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15 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

Domestic state selections are 100 percent wrong nearly at all times dear and there is no contention or fight too. Lil noise is made but ignored.

 

I have followed Mumbai team selections. Do you know d kulkarni was selected ahead of zaheer Khan and shardul Thakur for many matches. One more fast bowler who is the best fast bowler for Mumbai was benched and shardul was played.

 

Prasidh was finding it tough to play for his state team  12 months before but today everyone including kohli and shastri are tracking his carona status as they want him to go to england.

You should be 100 percent sure that the fast bowling unit that represents Mumbai are not the best three pacers in Mumbai.

 

Indian selection committee is answerable to Indian public and many important folks and that is why you are seeing fairly good selections.

Would you believe that India had only 1 pacer kapil Dev and other spinners..no other pacer came up and if they did they were not supported at all. There was huge politics at indian selection also.

 

I can remember so many good fast bowlers who were as good as kapil dev and they hardly played 2 to 3 international matches and dumped. Even bharat arun played one or two matches only.

Srinath was not played for so many matches when prabhakar and kapil played and in the first match when Srinath played, he out bowled both of them.

Srinath was bowling around 142 to 146k and these two guys bowled in early 120"s.

 

I remember listening to commentary and kapil bowling 25 overs + to get a no 11 batsman out to get his 432 wickets trying to break a record.

Kapil should have retired when his leg was operated n he was hurt. He played and stopped many to debut.

Brother... rajasthan not playing khaleel and playing a fatty aniket Chowdhury is a joke. Seriously wrong call. He bowled quick n fast and in next ipl he will perform better and soon play for India.

 

 

I agree khaleel has talent and more importantly has pace. 

 

Indian fans are mostly clueless as a vast majority don't watch Ranji games. I watched almost all A games. Seen some highlights of ranji matches here and there. 

 

Always knew Siraj was a special talent even before he got picked. Not were mocking him based on some shitty performances in his worst format i.e. T20 back when he was first picked to play for India. 

 

Even Saini is actually a good bowler. Go watch his ranji games and you will see what he is capable of. He played and under performed in 2 of the most parts wickets I have ever seen in Australia and people write him off for ODI. 

 

Prasidh is another one that has gained some traction only now. Go watch his Karnataka games and you should be able to discern how talented he actually is. But then most here probably have never played at a competitive level so it's understandable to see them fail to identify real talent. 

 

Porel is another one that's been written off for some reason. 

 

I do believe nagrakoti is overrated however. 

 

Mavi has potential but he needs to be consistent. 

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2 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

I may be wrong as I have just seen a few videos of nagwaswalla.

I hope he proves me wrong and bowls fast and produces banana swing and takes bucket full of wickets.

My understanding is he has nattu"s pace and a lil less skilled than Nattu.

If you pick him as reserves than what's wrong with Sir jaydev unadkkkut.

Both are probably same pace and unadkat is skilled for sure.

 

Point I am making is that Indian selectors had picked Saini umesh ishant umesh boom earlier. This was a phenomenal selection. All 140 + bowlers. If Saini lost his mojo as he was not played ..support him get him back into form.

He is a Pedigree bowler..a 145k true talent .. support him. Supporting a 130 k Trundler and Saini is about to be lost exactly as Varun Aroon.

Varun Aroon was fastest India produced ..faster than umesh and Srinath. He was not supported.

Umesh n Shammi n boom got lucky ..they got support from kohli. Varun was benched by dhoni and then dumped.

Saini should have been picked as a reserve at least.

 

Varun wasnt picked when he actually hit form. He would been good even in ODI if he had better backing. Instead Dhoni chose Mohit Sharma. Rofl.

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4 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

Domestic state selections are 100 percent wrong nearly at all times dear and there is no contention or fight too. Lil noise is made but ignored.

 

I have followed Mumbai team selections. Do you know d kulkarni was selected ahead of zaheer Khan and shardul Thakur for many matches. One more fast bowler who is the best fast bowler for Mumbai was benched and shardul was played.

 

Prasidh was finding it tough to play for his state team  12 months before but today everyone including kohli and shastri are tracking his carona status as they want him to go to england.

You should be 100 percent sure that the fast bowling unit that represents Mumbai are not the best three pacers in Mumbai.

 

Indian selection committee is answerable to Indian public and many important folks and that is why you are seeing fairly good selections.

Would you believe that India had only 1 pacer kapil Dev and other spinners..no other pacer came up and if they did they were not supported at all. There was huge politics at indian selection also.

 

I can remember so many good fast bowlers who were as good as kapil dev and they hardly played 2 to 3 international matches and dumped. Even bharat arun played one or two matches only.

Srinath was not played for so many matches when prabhakar and kapil played and in the first match when Srinath played, he out bowled both of them.

Srinath was bowling around 142 to 146k and these two guys bowled in early 120"s.

 

I remember listening to commentary and kapil bowling 25 overs + to get a no 11 batsman out to get his 432 wickets trying to break a record.

Kapil should have retired when his leg was operated n he was hurt. He played and stopped many to debut.

Brother... rajasthan not playing khaleel and playing a fatty aniket Chowdhury is a joke. Seriously wrong call. He bowled quick n fast and in next ipl he will perform better and soon play for India.

 

 

All you could have written is you saw Khaleel bowl 140+ in IPL, that's why you want him. No need to mock Ranji veterans like Aniket (who BTW before injuries was bowling upto 140 kmph in domestic FC cricket a couple of years back)

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I played for My COmpany ( a TOP Financial company) and opened the Batting , also played for a CLUB registered in MUMBAI and hence i used to play 35 overs and 45 overs and some 20 over matches.

 

our coach used to show us photographs with Sachin and boosted that he is a big cricket shot, he was a fairly good coach. He created a culture where if he got any player from Police lines or from any other team, He expected us to give exceptional respect to him. For me respecting the COACH was great as He was the guru but i was surprised to see that there was too much SIR BAAZI in domestic cricket. 

This Sir Baazi later becomes chamcha giri. assume that I am the coach with some powers to select a team and I have a dhruv kulkarni as my chamcha and I need to select a player and I have a tushar deshpande too ( who is much faster and more promising and even more wicket taking than dhruv) , i will select Dhruv ( as he is my chamncha) and say that dhruv is senior pacer and Tushar is good but he will get his chance next time and drop tushar.  finally a pacer who may be less dangerous , slower , who has less energy than Tushar gets to play.

 

i have seen a mumbai match in which tushar and dhruv bowled and tushar was way faster and better. tushar was even better than shardul in many matches , though both were equally good on bowling analysis.

idea is this SIR BAAJI is too much. 

 

Dear domestic Ranjit trophy and State Selectors - please be professional , idea is to have the best team go and play , not the most experienced team goes to Play.

 

When I see domestic Matches , i do see one good pacer in each team for sure. But i also see some Spinners and some medium trundlers playing for state teams. i feel that i have seen faster bowlers than them on Mumbai grounds and in Mumbai Clubs. feel shocked to see them bowling for a state team.

 

Pardon me but just see that sardar bowling in IPL (forgot his name)and samson had to hit a 6 of the last ball. samson did hit but it was a 4. little better connect and it could have been a 6. he was a trundling sardar playing for king 11 n may be playing for Punjab. do u think he is one of the best pacer in Punjab- definitely not. 

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4 hours ago, Jay said:

Varun wasnt picked when he actually hit form. He would been good even in ODI if he had better backing. Instead Dhoni chose Mohit Sharma. Rofl.

i was very excited to see varun aroon and Umesh yadav bowling together. varun even was picked and sent to england or australia for a series but DHONI did not give him even one match except one domestic england match. in that match varun took some 4 or 5 wickets also hurt a few players and I was kinda sure that varun will play in the test but he was not played.

 

keeping to a trundler at 125 K and keeping to a 145K bowler are two different things. i feel dhoni could have managed and get varun to bowl good line and length and made his career.

instead he did not play him as keeping to varun was also a tough Job.

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4 hours ago, Jay said:

I agree khaleel has talent and more importantly has pace. 

 

Indian fans are mostly clueless as a vast majority don't watch Ranji games. I watched almost all A games. Seen some highlights of ranji matches here and there. 

 

Always knew Siraj was a special talent even before he got picked. Not were mocking him based on some shitty performances in his worst format i.e. T20 back when he was first picked to play for India. 

 

Even Saini is actually a good bowler. Go watch his ranji games and you will see what he is capable of. He played and under performed in 2 of the most parts wickets I have ever seen in Australia and people write him off for ODI. 

 

Prasidh is another one that has gained some traction only now. Go watch his Karnataka games and you should be able to discern how talented he actually is. But then most here probably have never played at a competitive level so it's understandable to see them fail to identify real talent. 

 

Porel is another one that's been written off for some reason. 

 

I do believe nagrakoti is overrated however. 

 

Mavi has potential but he needs to be consistent. 

Prasidh , saini, siraj, avesh are very good bowlers and are to be trained to take over from ISHANT SHAMMI UMESH BHUVI.( boom is young) ...ishant shammi and bhuvi may not have many more international cricket years. Bhuvi and Ishant have already started slowing down and SHAMMI is also not as fast as last year.

 

i am OK for Nattu for only T20's and may be can be considered in ODI, if he improves his pace a bit.

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On 5/9/2021 at 3:55 PM, vishalvirsingh said:

i was very excited to see varun aroon and Umesh yadav bowling together. varun even was picked and sent to england or australia for a series but DHONI did not give him even one match except one domestic england match. in that match varun took some 4 or 5 wickets also hurt a few players and I was kinda sure that varun will play in the test but he was not played.

 

keeping to a trundler at 125 K and keeping to a 145K bowler are two different things. i feel dhoni could have managed and get varun to bowl good line and length and made his career.

instead he did not play him as keeping to varun was also a tough Job.

Any time we discuss selection unfairness, we must also factor in injuries.  It is hard to go back in time and track when someone was hurt and when they weren't picked, but it bears consideration.  KL Rahul (early in his career), Karun Nair and Varun Aaron are some good examples.

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R Sharma

C Pujara

S Gill

V Kohli

A Rahane

R Pant

R Jadeja

R Ashwin

I Sharma

M Shami

J Bumrah

 

Rather have Pujara opening than Gill as Pujara likely to see off the new ball.

 

India's success in reaching the Test final has been largely dependent on the experienced bowling line up, they deserve to play in the final. M Siraj/A Patel can come in some of the test matches Vs England later in the summer.

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