England vs New Zealand | 2nd Test | Edgbaston | June 10-14

[Jay]

8 hours ago, putrevus said:

People were laughing before  2019 world cup about NZ  when I stated NZ has all bases covered and have no such weaknesses. Samething applies to their test team they have all bases covered.The only  way India will be ahead is if pitch is flat and both our spinners play the match.

 

Bumrah might be the best bowler from both sides but NZ bowlers are right there with Indian bowlers.Kohli in present form in not better than Williamson.

 

Convay looks like a world class opener.

Spin flat, bounce = india well ahead. 

 

Seam = n.z ahead. 

 

Final = seam plus flat combo

 

50 50

[Norman]

Even Taylor's looking great now. 

 

Absolute no weakling in this kiwi lineup. 

[Lone Wolf]

Bracey is terrible with the gloves.  Even a 20 year old Pant kept 10 times better than him in England.  Shocking glove work so far. 

[Lord]

If I was Kane,would play following XI

 

Conway

Latham

Young

KW

Ross

Watling

Jamieson

Wagner

Boult

Henry

Patel

[Jay]

5 minutes ago, Lord said:

If I was Kane,would play following XI

 

Conway

Latham

Young

KW

Ross

Watling

Jamieson

Wagner

Boult

Henry

Patel

No weaknesses whatsoever. Underrated. For seam conditions they are easily amongst the best of all time. 

[Adamant]

If the pitch and conditions in WTC final are close to what we are seeing today then I won't mind Shami ahead of Siraj. 

 

The last time Shami played at Southampton he picked up 6 wkts in the match, For me now it's 52 - 48 between Siraj and Shami

[Adamant]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

No weaknesses whatsoever. Underrated. For seam conditions they are easily amongst the best of all time. 

Jamieson has a great batting average but is he really a good batsman? 

I haven't seen anything from him yet to suggest he is good with the bat. 

[Lone Wolf]

13 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Jamieson has a great batting average but is he really a good batsman? 

I haven't seen anything from him yet to suggest he is good with the bat. 

He is Shardul Thakur level batsman.  He ain't Sam Curran or Woakes level. 

[Lone Wolf]

David Warner in his recent Interview said that Aussies found Siraj very tough to deal with as compared to other Indian pacers. He said he was hitting difficult lengths & very hard to put away.

But if it is between him & Ishant..  I'll take Ishant with dukes anyday over him.  He is our best bowler in English conditions..  

Edited June 12, 2021 by Lone Wolf

[Jay]

Ideal team to whoop n.z's ass. 

 

Gill

Rohitaa

Puji 

Kohli

Pant

Jadeja

Sundar

Shardul

Bhuvi

Siraj

Ishant sharma

Bumrah

 

Batting depth check

Bowling depth check

Good swing bowlers check

World class bowlers check

 

Team under kohli that is possible;

 

Gill

Rohitaaa

Puju

Kuli

Rahania (good captain very ok)

Pant

Jadeja

Ashwin

Shami

Ishant

Bumrah

 

 

Still strong. Hope we win. 

 

[Adamant]

9 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

He is Shardul Thakur level batsman.  He ain't Sam Curran or Woakes level. 

I think Shardul is a better batsman than Woakes... If he gets more chances he will surely prove himself. 

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

England is fighting hard.  If they keep the lead down to 70..  Then there is some chance of comeback.

Frankly I don't want to see NZ win here. 

[Adamant]

5 minutes ago, Jay said:

Ideal team to whoop n.z's ass. 

 

Gill

Rohitaa

Puji 

Kohli

Pant

Jadeja

Sundar

Shardul

Bhuvi

Siraj

Ishant sharma

Bumrah

 

Batting depth check

Bowling depth check

Good swing bowlers check

World class bowlers check

 

Team under kohli that is possible;

 

Gill

Rohitaaa

Puju

Kuli

Rahania (good captain very ok)

Pant

Jadeja

Ashwin

Shami

Ishant

Bumrah

 

 

Still strong. Hope we win. 

 

No,  this isnt the ideal team. 

You can't replace Rahane with Sundar in a WTC final. Yes you can phase Rahane out over a longer period of time but not suddenly. Lol

Also why force players to play out of their preferred spot? 

Bhuvi hasn't been selected, so there's no chance of him playing

Shardul should play ahead of Ashwin only if it's a green seamer and the conditions are overcast, which i dont think will be the case considering that its an ICC final. 

You are experimenting too much in a Final. 

 

[Adamant]

6 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

England is fighting hard.  If they keep the lead down to 70..  Then there is some chance of comeback.

Frankly I don't want to see NZ win here. 

Looks like Kiwi lacks the killer instinct. 

[Jay]

This wood and stone are such average bowlers. If india is well prepared we can smash these fools. 

 

Just have to watch out for Archer who can only play 2 tests anyway. Max 3 given his poor fitness. His pace drops alot after the first test. 

 

Curran and salah woakes are nothing special. They are good but not great. 

[Jay]

6 minutes ago, Adamant said:

No,  this isnt the ideal team. 

You can't replace Rahane with Sundar in a WTC final. Yes you can phase Rahane out over a longer period of time but not suddenly. Lol

Also why force players to play out of their preferred spot? 

Bhuvi hasn't been selected, so there's no chance of him playing

Shardul should play ahead of Ashwin only if it's a green seamer and the conditions are overcast, which i dont think will be the case considering that its an ICC final. 

You are experimenting too much in a Final. 

 

Playing away from home is different. You need a balanced team. Team one is more balanced. Team 1 is perfect. Or just take bhuvi out and slot in ishant

 

Ishant siraj bumrah and shardul. 

[Sgattick10]

Pant made a good 50 in practice match 

[Lord]

7 minutes ago, Sgattick10 said:

Pant made a good 50 in practice match 

he made 121

[Sgattick10]

388 AO NZ

[Sgattick10]

Just now, Lord said:

he made 121

Oh read he got a 50