Ranvir Posted November 17, 2024 Share Posted November 17, 2024 1 hour ago, mishra said: Yes, UK is better than India that doesn’t justify every TDH country is better than India. Indian growth is organic. Its better in several aspects than rest of world and also has problems too. However US is definitely better than UK and i would have moved to US till particular phase of my life. Now I won’t. Just like my parents refused yo come here after retirement(phase of their life). US was and is land of opportunity. Not sure if you have experience working in a MNC but if you have worked, you will realise how Indians progressed in US but stuck/ignoored in UK in management hierarchy. When BBC portrays US is racist, Someone needs to ask them how many Indian took BBC top floor despite being in UK since over 200 years. I think you are probably one who get influenced by British propaganda. A eyeopener statement i read was on Rt? Why Russians report about Russia, Indian report about problems in India but British channels discuss about problems everywhere other than their own country? Think about it. Come on Russians have plenty of anti Western propaganda. Indians love to report on problems in Pakistan, it's a national habit, don't deny it. Yes I agree career wise you're better off in the USA if you're very ambitious, the Americans are less colour blind in that sense, it's a hyper capitalist society so whoever brings the most money in will be chosen, the UK is more like an old boy's club, it also wasn't founded as a nation of immigrants like the USA. But look at Rishi, he would have had to convert to Christianity in order to make it big in American politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 17, 2024 Share Posted November 17, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ranvir said: So you have left India to move to the UK, a bit hypocritical. I would never move to any Middle Eastern country as they are too Islamic for my liking. But still I would say they are better run than India and are OK for their Muslim population. India is a place where basic rules simply aren't followed or enforced. The quality of life in the USA is not better in my opinion, longer working hours, fewer holidays, gun violence, more drug addicts. I saw more crazy people in my one week holiday to Los Angeles than I have in my entire life. San Francisco is even worse. The amount of racism is worse, I had some fundamentalist Christian randomly shout out to my turbaned friend that he's going to hell in the Wall Street area. God knows what it's like in the mid West or South. The poor life expectancy in India isn't due to diet, it's due to the poor medical care, poor work conditions, lack of safety, disregard of human life. Indians in the UK have a life expectancy of about 83 years and eat that crappy food as well. Only through criticism can you improve. US is not what you see in movies and TV. It’s also not what you see in 7 days of tourism. Indians hardly face racism in the east coast and west coast. Career wise there is no discrimination and the freedom to practice religion is next to India. Even in India, it is becoming difficult to celebrate festivals like Ram Navami around Mosques or Muslim areas. I am talking about life in Sub-urban areas of US. Inner cities , yes, have gotten worse in crime and crazies Edited November 17, 2024 by coffee_rules diga and mishra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 17, 2024 Author Share Posted November 17, 2024 Just looking at all the debris is tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 18, 2024 Author Share Posted November 18, 2024 ICC (not to be confused with the cricket org) is seeking arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant, along with that of senior Hamas leaders. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 18, 2024 Author Share Posted November 18, 2024 Palestinians “prisoners”: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 19, 2024 Author Share Posted November 19, 2024 Israel’s flawed education system: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted November 19, 2024 Share Posted November 19, 2024 17 minutes ago, zen said: Israel’s flawed education system: What an irony.. the "book" teaches Palestinians to hate everyone coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 19, 2024 Author Share Posted November 19, 2024 10 minutes ago, diga said: What an irony.. the "book" teaches Palestinians to hate everyone Where did you learn how to hate? Self taught? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 19, 2024 Share Posted November 19, 2024 23 minutes ago, zen said: Where did you learn how to hate? Self taught? Same book. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 19, 2024 Author Share Posted November 19, 2024 13 minutes ago, mishra said: Same book. Extremism: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted November 19, 2024 Share Posted November 19, 2024 51 minutes ago, zen said: Where did you learn how to hate? Self taught? Unlike you I am not the "zen" master who hates people intruding into their territory.. I welcome all as long as they can coexist peacefully coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 19, 2024 Author Share Posted November 19, 2024 Just now, diga said: Unlike you I am not the "zen" master who hates people intruding into their territory.. I welcome all as long as they can coexist peacefully Zen master does not hate anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jigjig Posted November 19, 2024 Share Posted November 19, 2024 On 11/17/2024 at 10:25 AM, zen said: Just looking at all the debris is tragic. Don't go by world leaders statements. All show sympathy to Gazad but really are in bed with US Israel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 19, 2024 Share Posted November 19, 2024 @zenAre you getting paid for spreading fake narrative? Or is it your new venture PS: I am not clicking on those videos you are posting because, I dont want to confuse google that I am terror sympathiser zen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mishra Posted November 19, 2024 Share Posted November 19, 2024 (edited) I have a Muslim collegue of mine, His family is originally from Pakistan, second Gen British. Supports whats happening in Bangladesh (anti Hasina) and pro Gaza. So one day, He was going on and on about how world is so busy in Ukraine when nothing is happening there but How bad situation in Gaza is. I asked him why dont they release the hostages? His answer was "If they release, Israelis will hit them even Harder and indescriminately". I asked him, "On what basis he is concluding this because before Oct 7, Fact remains that Israelis were not sending tanks and bombing Gaza " As expected, He had no answer Edited November 19, 2024 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 19, 2024 Share Posted November 19, 2024 Quote “It really depends on what Israel means by the elimination of Hamas,” said Walid Seyam, a Palestinian political analyst based in South Africa. “If they mean clipping the nails of the organization and draining their military capabilities so that they cannot launch rockets again, then the answer is yes. If they mean a complete elimination of Hamas, then the answer is a definite no,” he argued. The reason for this, says Seyam, is Hamas’ social activity that is deeply ingrained in Palestinian society. Thats not Israeli saying. Thats from Hamas itself. Everyone in Gaza is Hamas, If thats the case, How can they be classed as innocent civilians? coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 19, 2024 Author Share Posted November 19, 2024 26 minutes ago, mishra said: @zenAre you getting paid for spreading fake narrative? Or is it your new venture PS: I am not clicking on those videos you are posting because, I dont want to confuse google that I am terror sympathiser I started this thread in 2021 (check the OP) when I became aware of Israeli brutality (terror) in Palestine. In 2024, it has been elevated to genocide. The region has been held hostage by the Zionist desire to occupy more land (no one is asking to take away Israeli lands). Israel (extremists) through its discriminating policies is encouraging hostile action against it which it uses to further eliminate the opposing forces. mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 19, 2024 Author Share Posted November 19, 2024 10 minutes ago, mishra said: Thats not Israeli saying. Thats from Hamas itself. Everyone in Gaza is Hamas, If thats the case, How can they be classed as innocent civilians? Palestinians are fighting an occupying force with their hands tied behind their backs. Palestine is in a handicap match with Israel which receives billions of dollars in aid from the likes of the US (influenced by the Zionist lobby). India’s freedom struggle had both Bhagat Singh, Bose, etc., and Gandhi, Nehru, etc. Same is the case with Palestine in its struggle. To fight the occuping force and gain freedom to establish its country is probably every Palestinian’s goal. How that is channeled depends upon individuals. That is probably what Hamas means that’ Israel can kill its military wing but not the desire in its people to fight these occupiers to gain freedom. Israel here is the bigger terrorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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