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coffee_rules Grand Master

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41 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces

The premier’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from

Netanyahu on Tuesday, however, dismissed those charges, claiming he only allowed Qatari money to flow into Gaza to avoid a humanitarian catastrophe, not to strengthen the arm of the administration there. 

“We wanted to avoid a civilian humanitarian collapse — disease, rampant hunger and other things that would have created an impossible humanitarian situation,” he said. “That’s why successive Israeli governments allowed this money to go in, not in order to strengthen Hamas. We didn’t want to strengthen Hamas at all. We wanted to weaken it and degrade its capabilities as far as we could.”
 

https://www.politico.eu/article/benjamin-netanyahu-hamas-qatar-money-war-israel-gaza-palestine/
 

PLO had no influence in Gaza ever since Hamas started operating from early 90s around time of Oslo accord. They eliminated all Fatah presence in Gaza in a civil war much before 2013 in the alleged money deal. 
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah–Hamas_conflict

 

He doesn’t deny money was not sent across, but the timeline of PA is far fetched to say Netanyahu created Hamas!!

vvvslaxman Grand Master

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1 minute ago, coffee_rules said:

Netanyahu on Tuesday, however, dismissed those charges, claiming he only allowed Qatari money to flow into Gaza to avoid a humanitarian catastrophe, not to strengthen the arm of the administration there. 

“We wanted to avoid a civilian humanitarian collapse — disease, rampant hunger and other things that would have created an impossible humanitarian situation,” he said. “That’s why successive Israeli governments allowed this money to go in, not in order to strengthen Hamas. We didn’t want to strengthen Hamas at all. We wanted to weaken it and degrade its capabilities as far as we could.”
 

https://www.politico.eu/article/benjamin-netanyahu-hamas-qatar-money-war-israel-gaza-palestine/
 

PLO had no influence in Gaza ever since Hamas started operating from early 90s around time of Oslo accord. They eliminated all Fatah presence in Gaza in a civil war much before 2013 in the alleged money deal. 
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah–Hamas_conflict

 

He doesn’t deny money was not sent across, but the timeline of PA is far fetched to say Netanyahu created Hamas!!

 

 

Netanyahu is a liar. This has been covered by many journalists. He says one thing. He does another thing. Hamas doesn't want two states. He doesn't want two states. He found common ground with them. He funded them. It backfired.

coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

 

Netanyahu is a liar. This has been covered by many journalists. He says one thing. He does another thing. Hamas doesn't want two states. He doesn't want two states. He found common ground with them. He funded them. It backfired.

Why would his successor continue sending the money in 2021? All are liars ? Not defending him, but I am skeptical of the conspiracy theories of epic proportions like GWB caused the 9/11 to happen to wage wars for the MIC. 

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vvvslaxman Grand Master

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-said-to-call-netanyahu-a-fking-liar-after-israeli-troops-entered-rafah/

 

 

According to the excerpts, during an April phone call, Biden asked Netanyahu: “What’s your strategy, man?”

 
 

Netanyahu said Israel had to go into Rafah, the Gaza-Egypt border city that the IDF said had become Hamas’s last stronghold in Gaza.

“Bibi, you’ve got no strategy,” responded Biden, according to Woodward, who also wrote that the US president said Netanyahu “doesn’t give a damn” about Hamas and “only about himself.”

 

 

 

After Israel entered Rafah, Biden said of Netanyahu: “He’s a *ing liar.”

“That son of a bitch, Bibi Netanyahu, he’s a bad guy,” said Biden privately, according to Woodward. “He’s a bad *ing guy!”

mishra Grand Master

mishra

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56 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-said-to-call-netanyahu-a-fking-liar-after-israeli-troops-entered-rafah/

 

 

According to the excerpts, during an April phone call, Biden asked Netanyahu: “What’s your strategy, man?”

 
 

Netanyahu said Israel had to go into Rafah, the Gaza-Egypt border city that the IDF said had become Hamas’s last stronghold in Gaza.

“Bibi, you’ve got no strategy,” responded Biden, according to Woodward, who also wrote that the US president said Netanyahu “doesn’t give a damn” about Hamas and “only about himself.”

 

 

 

After Israel entered Rafah, Biden said of Netanyahu: “He’s a *ing liar.”

“That son of a bitch, Bibi Netanyahu, he’s a bad guy,” said Biden privately, according to Woodward. “He’s a bad *ing guy!”

See , Biden is out because he was definitely wrong on America. Whether he was wrong on Israel, atleast election results cant conclusively confirm that.

 

Now why did it happened what happened on Oct 7 and later.

 

1. Israelis had management control of Phildelphia corridor which they gave up that allowed smuggling of weapons.

2. There was a UN resolution for Hezbollah to get behind 30 Km from lenon Israel border and they never went back. ie US/UN did not enforce the resolution.

3. Abraham accord and I2U2 which effectively meant recognistion of Israel among ME nations is further delayed for considerable time. Effectively Iran played Geo Politcal game using its proxies.

 

Blinken himself said that Hamas never accepted hostage deal which could have brough Peace which logically means Victim Card was part of the Iranian/Palestinian war game. Qataris are saying to Hamas to please leave for Sudan

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zen Grand Master

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“Gaza City looks like Stalingrad after the 2nd World War”


“Israel is using starvation tactics”

 

”Israel is not telling the truth”

 

 

:((

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5 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

 

Only Morons defend Israel and its actions. Thankfully, We got a lot of morons in ICF


A lack of EQ and general awareness of the situation (In India, many people don’t even stop when they see someone in an accident as we could be late for a meeting. Human life is valued relatively less) . 
 

For many it could be like if it is Muslims, we clap for their suffering without probably worrying about what is right or wrong. 


 

 

 

bharathh Grand Master

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Bleeding hearts should wonder why Egypt and other Ummah countries don't want even a single Palestinian in their countries. Also, they should wonder why they all had their heads in the ground when the so called innocents were being corrupted. 

 

It's due to the fact that bleeding hearts are clueless to the causes and just want to jump onto the bandwagon of what appears to be relevant. 

 

Don't see any crocodile tears shed for the children of Yemen or Sudan or Ethiopia even though they have had it worse for much longer. 

 

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mishra Grand Master

mishra

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4 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

NRIs in this forum seem to be bigger supporters of Israel. It all stems from Muslim hatred as you suggested.

 

If they want to quench their thirst, they can pick on Sudan Civil War. But supporting Israel for the sake of it seems very stupid.

 

They embarass our religion and ethos by supporting Israel on Social Media. Muslims from Arab world have joined in on shitting on us along with whites (which already existed) and Pakistanis (which is expected) on social media.

 

 

LOL. If you dont Support actions of Hamas and Hezbollah or defending their action which are Terror outfit, then you are Islamophobic, Hate Islam.

zen Grand Master

zen

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11 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

NRIs in this forum seem to be bigger supporters of Israel. It all stems from Muslim hatred as you suggested.

 

If they want to quench their thirst, they can pick on Sudan Civil War. But supporting Israel for the sake of it seems very stupid.

 

They embarass our religion and ethos by supporting Israel on Social Media. Muslims from Arab world have joined in on shitting on us along with whites (which already existed) and Pakistanis (which is expected) on social media.

 

 


Need to remain relatively neutral. Call out what is right or wrong.

 

What Hamas did last Oct was shocking (and rightly criticized). But what Israel is doing is beyond words. 
 

People who got sympathy for having to go through Holocaust are now creating a “Holocaust” for another community. A group of people are laid seize and bombed to extinction while a set of extremist make plans on how to resettle Jews in Gaza.

 

I suspect that Hamas will also retaliate in some fashion.

bharathh Grand Master

bharathh

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19 minutes ago, zen said:


^ Roy blasts Israel

 

 

This really made my day! Same scum supports Kashmiri Islamists and Naxals killing Indians.  Must be the high EQ that you folks develop.

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