Israeli settlers in Occupied Palestine

[coffee_rules]

6 hours ago, mishra said:

LOL. If you dont Support actions of Hamas and Hezbollah or defending their action which are Terror outfit, then you are Islamophobic, Hate Islam.

This is priceless, You have to support Hamas , otherwise Muslims will yell at Indians on SM   and call us like names and stuff

Edited November 13, 2024 by coffee_rules

[BacktoCricaddict]

2 hours ago, zen said:

I suspect that Hamas will also retaliate in some fashion.

And on and on it will go, Bhai. Neither side is justified.

[zen]

6 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

And on and on it will go, Bhai. Neither side is justified.

Two State Solution (TSS):

 

 

[BacktoCricaddict]

2 minutes ago, zen said:

Two State Solution (TSS):

 

 

 

Put me in the pessimist camp. The guy who spoke first in the video said something about this being a fantasy. I agree.

[BacktoCricaddict]

@zen 

 

One more thing. I've said this before in other threads, but it bears repeating:

 

the reason I think this dispute will never be settled is that both groups of people consider this land their "holy" land. Once you attach a religious tag, nothing else matters. You can offer both groups of people the most productive, pristine, resource-rich, beautiful land with perfect climate, and they will refuse it in favor of *this holy land*.

Edited November 13, 2024 by BacktoCricaddict

[zen]

Just now, BacktoCricaddict said:

@zen 

 

One more thing. I've said this before in other threads, but it bears repeating:

 

the reason I think this dispute will never be settled is that both groups of people consider this land their "holy" land. Once you attach a religious tag, nothing else matters. You can offer both groups of people the most productive, pristine, resource-rich, beautiful land with perfect climate, and they will refuse it in favor of *this holy land*.

Jerusalem is the key issue, along with how to draw the borders esp. for Israel which is practically controlling the region. 
 
Jerusalem can be made into an international city or one with a shared capital - west to Israel and east to Palestine. 
 

Allow some minor concession to Israel on the West Bank. 

[zen]

 to all posters who have been more or less friendly despite the nature of the topic. 

Israel & Palestine could learn from us!

 

Edited November 13, 2024 by zen

[Sandz]

Just read that Palestine had a higher HDI than India in 2022. That’s a real wtf stat.

 

Even Iraq has a better HDI ranking 

[bharathh]

9 hours ago, zen said:

 

Maybe Egyptians, Saudis/Qataris/Bahrainis could take in these children. Wonder why they don't want to. They can actually make a difference. 

[zen]

19 minutes ago, bharathh said:

 

Maybe Egyptians, Saudis/Qataris/Bahrainis could take in these children. Wonder why they don't want to. They can actually make a difference. 

Israel need to stop the genocide. These people already live more or less in a refugee colony in their own country, which they have been fighting for for 70+ years.
 

By saying that why others don’t want them, you are a) attempting to dehumanize these people, and b) implying that Israel can do whatever it wants to people who are living in their own country. 

 

Israel has turned into a terrorist state with extremists in power. 

 

Stop making insensitive comments.

Edited November 14, 2024 by zen

[coffee_rules]

15 minutes ago, Sandz said:

Just read that Palestine had a higher HDI than India in 2022. That’s a real wtf stat.

 

Even Iraq has a better HDI ranking 

TFR of Gaza 3.97 , WB - 3.49 , Israel 2.9

 

The genocidee has better TFR than the genocider. At one point in the 90s when relative peace was there during Oslo Accord. The TFR of Palestine was 9.x . Each woman had an average of 9 children!!  The west like Kaneda would kill to have such TFR!!

[coffee_rules]

9 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

@zen 

 

One more thing. I've said this before in other threads, but it bears repeating:

 

the reason I think this dispute will never be settled is that both groups of people consider this land their "holy" land. Once you attach a religious tag, nothing else matters. You can offer both groups of people the most productive, pristine, resource-rich, beautiful land with perfect climate, and they will refuse it in favor of *this holy land*.

Refuse to accept that it is the same religious fervor across the aisle. This is classic monkey-balancing of the left The conflict of Palestine is “one side wanting to kill all and throw them to the sea and the other side refusing to get killed”!  This has been the Arab strategy since 1917 , the Balfour declaration.  The doctrine of Islam is that once it had established rule of a land, any change to that have to be fough back. Hence , the push in EU to get back Spain and Portugal, or South Sudan or rest of Nigeria. Only exception being East Timor. The Extremist Jewish settlers in WB is also similar doctrine, will not serve Israel in the long run. 
 

 

Edited November 14, 2024 by coffee_rules

[bharathh]

20 minutes ago, zen said:

Israel need to stop the genocide. These people already live more or less in a refugee colony in their own country.
 

By saying that why others don’t want them, you are implying that Israel can do whatever it wants to people who are living in their own country and if they can’t take it move out and let Israelis settle.

 

Israel has turned into a terrorist state with extremists in power. 

 

Stop making insensitive comments.

 

Strange how these videos of children cannot seem to get Hamas to return the civilian hostages taken even today - nor even stop further escalations. 

 

I guess the low EQ factor again.  

 

I care about these children as much as the Hamas does. 

Edited November 14, 2024 by bharathh

[zen]

11 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

TFR of Gaza 3.97 , WB - 3.49 , Israel 2.9

 

The genocidee has better TFR than the genocider.

Do not continue to post nonsense esp. on my threads. 

Everyone knows Palestine has a high death rate esp. in the last few months where 1/3rd of those dead are said to be children. 
 

The above only further showcases what has been said about your posts in the past. Don’t make stupid posts on sensitive topics. 

[coffee_rules]

22 minutes ago, zen said:

Do not continue to post nonsense esp. on my threads. 

Everyone knows Palestine has a high death rate esp. in the last few months where 1/3rd of those dead are said to be children. 
 

The above only further showcases what has been said about your posts in the past. Don’t make stupid posts on sensitive topics. 

I had chosen to ignore you and I suggest you do the same. I am finding hard to refute your posted content , but I won’t respond to your posts directly and I suggest you do the same. I see your posts when someone replies to you like  @bharathh. There is no thread ownership here in ICF. Why are you targeting only me, there are a varied of opinions expressed here. Just put me on ignore list , I will put you back.  No hard feelings!

 

You are assuming that I don’t care about the dead. I was regurgitating data in response to a post on HDI. I don’t care what you think about my posts. I am not here to seek your approval or your feedback or prove to you on what and how to post.  I will continue to speak my mind. 

Edited November 14, 2024 by coffee_rules

[zen]

Protests continue in Israel against Netanyahu (facing charges of corruption as well) Many believe he is keeping the “war” going as it is said that a PM cannot be removed during a war:

 

 

[diga]

13 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

I had chosen to ignore you and I suggest you do the same. I am finding hard to refute your posted content , but I won’t respond to your posts directly and I suggest you do the same. I see your posts when someone replies to you like  @bharathh. There is no thread ownership here in ICF. Why are you targeting only me, there are a varied of opinions expressed here. Just put me on ignore list , I will put you back.  No hard feelings!

 

You are assuming that I don’t care about the dead. I was regurgitating data in response to a post on HDI. I don’t care what you think about my posts. I am not here to seek your approval or your feedback or prove to you on what and how to post.  I will continue to speak my mind. 

Its a discussion group ..anybody can post their opinions. Where does the question of thread ownership come in?

 

As long as one posts in moderation without prejudice, it should be allowed.

[zen]

6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

I had chosen to ignore you and I suggest you do the same. I am finding hard to refute your posted content , but I won’t respond to your posts directly and I suggest you do the same. I see your posts when someone replies to you like Bharathh. There is no thread ownership here in ICF. Why are you targeting only me, there are a varied of opinions expressed here. Just put me on ignore list , I will put you back.  No hard feelings!

 

You are assuming that I don’t care about the dead. I was regurgitating data in response to a post on HDI. I don’t care what you think about my posts. I will continue to speak my mind. 

 

Yes, you do appear insensitive towards the dead. If you ignore my posts, you could ignore my threads as well.
 

My thread here is by and large discussing the plight of Palestinians in territories occupied by Israel esp. due to its extremism. 

 

Thank you!! 

[zen]

Criminal cases against Netanyahu: 

 

 

 

[zen]

“42,000 killed in Gaza over the last 12 months could be an underestimate”

 

 

Health care workers volunteering in Gaza appear to be suffering from trauma by experiencing what’s happening there.