maniac Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) @Ankit_sharma03 let me come up with a new cricketing theory. It is called the Ishant Sharma conundrum. When I used to support Ishant here I always said when Indian bowling unit sucked as a unit, Ishant always stood out as the worst because I felt he tried too hard but when Indian attack bowled well as a unit he used to run through line ups kind of like Stuart Broad. Because Ishant needed support. Shami in T20 is the same way. In Kings X1 he bowls alongside Trundlers like Cottrell and with all due respect Arshdeep (love this kid. Has nerves of steel) and some useless Aussie BBL phaasht bowlers so he gets hammered but put in him in an attack with someone like Chahar/Bhuvi who can take wickets up front with swing or bowl tightly in PP and have an xfactor bowler like Bumrah, he will become a different beast. He will run through line ups in the middle overs trust me. Only alternate option or equivalent is Thakur who adds a lot more with the bat but is similar with lesser bowling skill and can be expensive but can chip away with wickets. Natarajan and Bumrah can’t be in the same X1. Nattu is the watered down version of Bumrah with his accuracy. Having Bumrah and Natarajan in the same X1 makes the attack one dimensional even though Natarajan has the left arm variety. That’s about it, he is not a Amir type swing bowler or neither a Starc type speed demon but yes apples to apples can be a replacement for Bumrah if required as we will need a death bowler. Similarly can’t have Bhuvi and Chahar in the same bowling line up. A fit and firing Bumrah, a swing bowler with the new ball like Bhuvi/Chahar and Shami, this attack will run through line ups provided spinners cooperate and Pandya can chip in. Edited July 29, 2021 by maniac Link to comment
maniac Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I don’t want Siraj to play international T20. Don’t want him to suffer what Ishant went through, he may win matches singlehandedly 2/10 games but in unfavorable conditions he will get smacked bad and that may destroy his confidence. He is the guy I back to get 400 test wickets. He can earn some easy money in IPL. As we saw in this tour, IPL doesn’t translate to international success all the time. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, maniac said: @Ankit_sharma03 let me come up with a new cricketing theory. It is called the Ishant Sharma conundrum. When I used to support Ishant here I always said when Indian bowling unit sucked as a unit, Ishant always stood out as the worst because I felt he tried too hard but when Indian attack bowled well as a unit he used to run through line ups kind of like Stuart Broad. Because Ishant needed support. Shami in T20 is the same way. In Kings X1 he bowls alongside Trundlers like Cottrell and with all due respect Arshdeep (love this kid. Has nerves of steel) and some useless Aussie BBL phaasht bowlers so he gets hammered but put in him in an attack with someone like Chahar/Bhuvi who can take wickets up front with swing or bowl tightly in PP and have an xfactor bowler like Bumrah, he will become a different beast. He will run through line ups in the middle overs trust me. Only alternate option or equivalent is Thakur who adds a lot more with the bat but is similar with lesser bowling skill and can be expensive but can chip away with wickets. Natarajan and Bumrah can’t be in the same X1. Nattu is the watered down version of Bumrah with his accuracy. Having Bumrah and Natarajan in the same X1 makes the attack one dimensional even though Natarajan has the left arm variety. That’s about it, he is not a Amir type swing bowler or neither a Starc type speed demon but yes apples to apples can be a replacement for Bumrah if required as we will need a death bowler. Similarly can’t have Bhuvi and Chahar in the same bowling line up. A fit and firing Bumrah, a swing bowler with the new ball like Bhuvi/Chahar and Shami, this attack will run through line ups provided spinners cooperate and Pandya can chip in. Shami struggles coz he lacks variety and bowls veyr predictable lengths in t20 which is where jaddu also struggles as bowler in t20 and he is inconsistent at death as he will land few good yorker but will also feed some length balls Nattu is left armer so that creates a left arm angle Why siraj is a must coz he has all the tools - he can bowl in any situation of the match Siraj works as combo with deepak with new ball Siraj works as combo with bumrah at death Nattu doesnt work with new ball Shami leaks a lot at death and at times even at start Chahar is decent in death but not as good as bumrah Bhuvi if he gets back to his 100% is one of world top t20 bowlers Thakur can leak runs any time, he works best when opposition is under pressure of chasing so its siraj that creates the balance in the attack over anyone Link to comment
maniac Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Shami struggles coz he lacks variety and bowls veyr predictable lengths in t20 which is where jaddu also struggles as bowler in t20 and he is inconsistent at death as he will land few good yorker but will also feed some length balls Nattu is left armer so that creates a left arm angle Why siraj is a must coz he has all the tools - he can bowl in any situation of the match Siraj works as combo with deepak with new ball Siraj works as combo with bumrah at death Nattu doesnt work with new ball Shami leaks a lot at death and at times even at start Chahar is decent in death but not as good as bumrah Bhuvi if he gets back to his 100% is one of world top t20 bowlers Thakur can leak runs any time, he works best when opposition is under pressure of chasing so its siraj that creates the balance in the attack over anyone that’s why he should bowl in the middle overs to create pressure. He has had similar success in odis also. No I am saying this right now playing Siraj in T20 will be a big mistake from his and India’s future perspective. Link to comment
maniac Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Baji-Rao said: have siraj and bumrah ever paired together in domestics? Are chalfalaaz and zimbabaer from the same Italian province? Trolling to theek se kar ghonchu Edited July 29, 2021 by maniac Frustrated 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 12 hours ago, maniac said: that’s why he should bowl in the middle overs to create pressure. He has had similar success in odis also. No I am saying this right now playing Siraj in T20 will be a big mistake from his and India’s future perspective. who'll bowl in the death then? Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 13 hours ago, maniac said: that’s why he should bowl in the middle overs to create pressure. He has had similar success in odis also. He even leaks runs in Middle ODI is a different game, Im a huge shami fan in ODI and always prefer him over bhuvi in ODI but in t20 bhuvi is miles ahead of shami 13 hours ago, maniac said: No I am saying this right now playing Siraj in T20 will be a big mistake from his and India’s future perspective. thats the challenge for every modern day bowler, he is bowling at his best if not now then when Link to comment
Norman Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Rohit Rahul (with license to go all guns blazing in the pp) SKY Kohli Iyer Pandya Jadeja Sundar R Chahar Bhuvi Bumrah Capable batters all way until 10 so we won't see a "145/4 in 15 overs to 161 all out 19 " sort of madness. Bowling looks okayish. Sundar is underrated as a T20 spinner. Can give us valuable tight overs in the PP. If there is some help for seamers then play Shardul in place of Jadeja at 7. Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, Norman said: Rohit Rahul (with license to go all guns blazing in the pp) SKY Kohli Iyer Pandya Jadeja Sundar R Chahar Bhuvi Bumrah Capable batters all way until 10 so we won't see a "145/4 in 15 overs to 161 all out 19 " sort of madness. Bowling looks okayish. Sundar is underrated as a T20 spinner. Can give us valuable tight overs in the PP. If there is some help for seamers then play Shardul in place of Jadeja at 7. You dont want Pant? Link to comment
QuarantineTormentino Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Rohit, Rahul, SKY, Kohli (c), Pant, Hardik, Jadeja, Deepak Cahar/Sundar/Varun (depending on conditions), Rahul Chahar, Bhuvi, Bumrah if Varun is playing he bats at no 11 and everyone from Rahul Chahar moves a spot up. Siraj can replace Bhuvi if he can improve his batting/slogging ability (something like Hasan Ali) Edited July 30, 2021 by QuarantineTormentino Link to comment
Norman Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: You dont want Pant? Iyer over pant for now. CodeOfWisden 1 Link to comment
CodeOfWisden Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Iyer over Pant is the kind of decision which only a blind captain like Kohli can make. The difference in their ability is as vast as the Mississippi. Ankit_sharma03 and Lord 2 Link to comment
adkrish22290 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 KL Shaw Sky Virat (c) Pant (wk) Hardik Jaddu D Chahar Bhuvi Bumrah Chahal Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 On 7/30/2021 at 5:54 PM, Norman said: Iyer over pant for now. Link to comment
SRT100 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Has Kohli not stated in the media that he will most likely open in the T20 WC? Im sure his role will be to anchor the innings and frustrate us with a run a ball scoring rate, which is "fine" if the batsmen all around him go into attacking mode as we do bat deep. Hitman Kohli KL SKY Pant Pandya Jaddu R Chahar Bhuvi Bumrah Chahal While Charha and Bhuvi can bat, they wont win us a game nor get us to a competitive total, but more than capable of doing enough if the Top 7 do their part IMO. The less said about Bumrah and Chahal batting, the better, which is fine if their bowling delivers. We need our top 7 batsmen capable of winning a game or changing the momentum of a game, which all have done in the past. Current form, conditions and opposition will dictate whether Pandya, Charhar and Chahal play or not. Pandya and Jaddu in the field will be a massive asset if they have their confidence levels up. Link to comment
Lord Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 11 hours ago, SRT100 said: Has Kohli not stated in the media that he will most likely open in the T20 WC? Im sure his role will be to anchor the innings and frustrate us with a run a ball scoring rate, which is "fine" if the batsmen all around him go into attacking mode as we do bat deep. Hitman Kohli KL SKY Pant Pandya Jaddu R Chahar Bhuvi Bumrah Chahal While Charha and Bhuvi can bat, they wont win us a game nor get us to a competitive total, but more than capable of doing enough if the Top 7 do their part IMO. The less said about Bumrah and Chahal batting, the better, which is fine if their bowling delivers. We need our top 7 batsmen capable of winning a game or changing the momentum of a game, which all have done in the past. Current form, conditions and opposition will dictate whether Pandya, Charhar and Chahal play or not. Pandya and Jaddu in the field will be a massive asset if they have their confidence levels up. Went back on it next game Link to comment
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