Mariyam Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 16 hours ago, Yoda-esque said: On 8/1/2021 at 1:41 PM, jf1gp_1 said: .. and how far do you think we are from that conversation ? Once we get to that, you won't be existing to have that conversation That is harsh. Muslims, even the pious ones, take no offence to pig slaughter. You can slaughter away all the pigs you wish. It is pork consumption that is haram It's not comparable to cow slaughter. The cow is revered and hence protected constitutionally. Why draw equivalences when none exist? Clarke and Singh bling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 You claimed that Hindus are most violent when it comes to cow slaughter. Can you show some numbers of Hindus crime in different scenario v numbers in cases of cow slaughter to back up this claim?He doesn't have those numbers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said: He doesn't have those numbers . He can say it from his personal experience also and would believe it. But if it based on on media reports where such comparisons are not available, then I would say that claim is made up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 That is harsh. Muslims, even the pious ones, take no offence to pig slaughter. You can slaughter away all the pigs you wish. It is pork consumption that is haram It's not comparable to cow slaughter. The cow is revered and hence protected constitutionally. Why draw equivalences when none exist? It won't be harsh when people start holding pork parties and posting pork pictures with specific incediary hashtags to mock majoritarian sentiment, if and when there's a Islamic majority.As I understand ,buffalo beef is available in most states and its only cow slaughter that is banned.I guess that's not enough though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Beef availability varies based on the states I think. In TN it was never a problem, I used to eat beef regularly, both cow and buffalo. Beef chilly with beef fried rice is a very good combo. There is a shop near Marina called Titanic, easily the best beef chilly I have ever tasted. Chennai guys check it out, won't be disappointed. In Bangalore it is difficult to find beef. Not sure if it is political or the demand is less, but it sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Trichromatic said: You claimed that Hindus are most violent when it comes to cow slaughter. Can you show some numbers of Hindus crime in different scenario v numbers in cases of cow slaughter to back up this claim? I said intolerant not violence. Although intolerance leads to violence but large number of intolerant are not violent but they definitely vote on the issue and makes their intolerance become legal. As far crimes are concerned , do such stats exists where we can distinguish Hindu crimes, Sikh crimes , Muslim crimes? Large number of crimes are not committed for religious reasons. They are committed for different reasons irrespective of religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 21 hours ago, Singh bling said: If this is reality then what problem Hindu's have if cows and bull that roam on streets injure people ,destroy property ,destroy crops exported legally to Bangladesh ? BD don't have any agenda they just fulfill their demand for meat and export. Hindu's may be tolerant for 100s of reasons but cow slaughters something where they are most voilent 4 minutes ago, Singh bling said: I said intolerant not violence. Although intolerance leads to violence but large number of intolerant are not violent but they definitely vote on the issue and makes their intolerance become legal. As far crimes are concerned , do such stats exists where we can distinguish Hindu crimes, Sikh crimes , Muslim crimes? Large number of crimes are not committed for religious reasons. They are committed for different reasons irrespective of religion. Ok. Got it. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 15 hours ago, Mariyam said: That is harsh. Muslims, even the pious ones, take no offence to pig slaughter. You can slaughter away all the pigs you wish. It is pork consumption that is haram It's not comparable to cow slaughter. The cow is revered and hence protected constitutionally. Why draw equivalences when none exist? This is a country where a young girl lost her life for wearing jeans , no discussion is far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 18 hours ago, Singh bling said: Lynchings , Strict beef ban, draconian punishments for cow slaughter, ban on export of live cattle .,go rakshak attacking trucks which are transporting cows. Millions of stray cows and bulls, 100s of people dying because of attacks of stray cattle . do you have any news reports to back up that claim. usually cattle are not "attacking" in nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 On 8/1/2021 at 7:59 PM, Singh bling said: If this is reality then what problem Hindu's have if cows and bull that roam on streets injure people ,destroy property ,destroy crops exported legally to Bangladesh ? BD don't have any agenda they just fulfill their demand for meat and export. Hindu's may be tolerant for 100s of reasons but cow slaughters something where they are most voilent 16 hours ago, Singh bling said: I said intolerant not violence. Although intolerance leads to violence but large number of intolerant are not violent but they definitely vote on the issue and makes their intolerance become legal. As far crimes are concerned , do such stats exists where we can distinguish Hindu crimes, Sikh crimes , Muslim crimes? Large number of crimes are not committed for religious reasons. They are committed for different reasons irrespective of religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 On 8/1/2021 at 8:52 AM, Singh bling said: Is there any threat of pork ban? Threat is no threat beef ban too in Meghalaya. People should read the article they post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Threat is no threat beef ban too in Meghalaya. People should read the article they post. This what he said This will subside the wrong information in the mind of the people that BJP will impose a cow slaughter ban,” He is clearing a rumour. And Do I need to remind you Demand of pan India cow slaughter ban by radical Hindu's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Real McCoy said: do you have any news reports to back up that claim. usually cattle are not "attacking" in nature https://m.timesofindia.com/city/gurgaon/stray-cattle-menace-241-lives-lost-in-haryana-in-2-years/amp_articleshow/74588676.cms Stray cattle menace: 241 lives lost in Haryana in 2 years 300 killed in road accidents in past 2.5 years due to stray cows: Punjab Gau Seva Aayog https://www.india.com/news/india/300-killed-in-road-accidents-in-past-2-5-years-due-to-stray-cows-punjab-gau-seva-aayog-2042699/ These are stats of two states. If you take stats of entire india the figure will be close to1000 per year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 22 hours ago, Singh bling said: Lynchings , Strict beef ban, draconian punishments for cow slaughter, ban on export of live cattle .,go rakshak attacking trucks which are transporting cows. Millions of stray cows and bulls, 100s of people dying because of attacks of stray cattle . 13 minutes ago, Singh bling said: https://m.timesofindia.com/city/gurgaon/stray-cattle-menace-241-lives-lost-in-haryana-in-2-years/amp_articleshow/74588676.cms Stray cattle menace: 241 lives lost in Haryana in 2 years 300 killed in road accidents in past 2.5 years due to stray cows: Punjab Gau Seva Aayog https://www.india.com/news/india/300-killed-in-road-accidents-in-past-2-5-years-due-to-stray-cows-punjab-gau-seva-aayog-2042699/ These are stats of two states. If you take stats of entire india the figure will be close to1000 per year According to the articles, it says accidents not "attacks". Troll much? This is India. Its not just cows. Elephants, deers and other wild animals cross roads. Just because the speed limit is 100k doesnt mean one has to maintain that speed. Its more like reckless driving that killed those people not the cattle. It seems you have an agenda with your framing of words. cattle attacks ohnoes sombady staap it! And how do you want to stop it. By killing cows? What about the elephants and other wild animals. Kill em all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Real McCoy said: According to the articles, it says accidents not "attacks". Troll much? This is India. Its not just cows. Elephants, deers and other wild animals cross roads. Just because the speed limit is 100k doesnt mean one has to maintain that speed. Its more like reckless driving that killed those people not the cattle. It seems you have an agenda with your framing of words. cattle attacks ohnoes sombady staap it! And how do you want to stop it. By killing cows? What about the elephants and other wild animals. Kill em all? Seriously . Do elephants deer and other wildlife roam in cities ? And what make you think that all those die were driving at 100k . BTW I don't think you have ever driven on indian roads o/w you will definitely know how risky if cattle come in front of you no matter what speed you are driving . BTW Stray bulls also kill people without accident Stray bull in Jaipur hits foreign tourist, dies https://m.timesofindia.com/videos/city/jaipur/stray-bull-in-jaipur-hits-foreign-tourist-dies/videoshow/61719499.cms Edited August 3, 2021 by Singh bling EnterTheVoid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) More cattle attacks https://nypost.com/2019/04/08/video-captures-bull-running-into-motorcyclist-at-top-speed/ Edited August 3, 2021 by Singh bling EnterTheVoid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Let the people eat what they want to eat. If Beef is legally banned in some states then it should be followed by all. But if it is not then there is no point to debate. Same way people should be free to eat Pork as well. Vegans should especially stay away from this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 49 minutes ago, Singh bling said: Seriously . Do elephants deer and other wildlife roam in cities ? And what make you think that all those die were driving at 100k . BTW I don't think you have ever driven on indian roads o/w you will definitely know how risky if cattle come in front of you no matter what speed you are driving . BTW Stray bulls also kill people without accident Stray bull in Jaipur hits foreign tourist, dies https://m.timesofindia.com/videos/city/jaipur/stray-bull-in-jaipur-hits-foreign-tourist-dies/videoshow/61719499.cms Perhaps these deaths don't matter to you people You didn't post this info when I asked you for sources. You posted accidents due to cattle. So don't blame me. You left me with wrong info and claim human deaths don't matter to me which is not right. I have traveled several times in the South and this sort of situation has never happened while I was traveling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: You didn't post this info when I asked you for sources. You posted accidents due to cattle. So don't blame me. You left me with wrong info and claim human deaths don't matter to me which is not right. I have traveled several times in the South and this sort of situation has never happened while I was traveling. I have deleted the part that death don't matter to you. When somebody say that I have agenda I get charged up. I have no agenda and have plenty of information on this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 On a serious note is it right to eat meat? What gives humans right to kill other animals for consumption? These are just questions I am asking. Astros 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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