Jay Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 On 6/13/2022 at 7:27 AM, rkt.india said: Bad form can strike anytime. No one in 2019 thought Kohli will struggle to score a 100 for three years, a guy with 70 international 100s in just 10 years, was averaging 53+ in tests. Turning point was the semi final loss to Kiwis in 2019 wc. Then the test series loss to Kiwis in 2020. He was finished there. Thats it. Should have dumped him then and there. Also the wtc final. Come the * on. How much more do you want to wait for him. Not to mention the flop show in t20 Wc. Vijy 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Root was able to pick wicket of Pant. He has already contributed more than Kohli in this test. Stan AF 1 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) Root has now made 2,500+ runs since the start of 2021. . Credit where it's due this has to be appreciated. I can't remember a batsman scoring this much in such a short span of time!!. Closest was ponting when he made 1500 runs in 2003 & 2005. Someone correct me if i'm wrong. Even he couldn't do it in consecutive years. Edited July 4, 2022 by Stan AF Link to comment
Majestic Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Joe Root has tamed the greatest Indian bowling attack of all-time like none. He has played Bumrah and Ashwin both like a master. Against India, he has scored 2460 runs at an average of 61 now. In this series , he is currently sitting at 691 runs at average of 96 and three of those innings were lone warrior hundreds from him. Unbelievable record vs India. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stan AF said: I can't remember a batsman scoring this much in such a short span of time!!. Closest was ponting when he made 1500 runs in 2003 & 2005. Someone correct me if i'm wrong. Even he couldn't do it in consecutive years. Really you forgot SS or Kohli himself? View overall figures [change view] Start of match date between 31 Jan 2016 and 31 Jan 2018 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 5 of 5 First Previous Next Last Return to query menuCleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s SPD Smith (AUS) 2016-2018 22 39 6 2467 239 74.75 4568 54.00 10 9 1 266 7 V Kohli (INDIA) 2016-2018 25 40 4 2560 243 71.11 3875 66.06 10 4 2 266 8 CA Pujara (INDIA) 2016-2018 25 40 2 2076 202 54.63 4552 45.60 7 10 2 237 4 JE Root (ENG) 2016-2018 26 47 2 2295 254 51.00 3860 59.45 4 18 1 276 2 AN Cook (ENG) 2016-2018 26 49 4 2041 244* 45.35 4016 50.82 4 8 0 240 1 Also look at the number of matches - View overall figures [change view] Start of match date greater than or equal to 31 Jan 2020 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 1500 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 1 of 1 First Previous Next Last Return to query menuCleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s JE Root (ENG) 2020-2022 29 55 6 2793 228 57.00 4876 57.28 10 7 3 297 6 Edited July 4, 2022 by R!TTER Link to comment
Nikola Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Really you forgot SS or Kohli himself? View overall figures [change view] Start of match date between 31 Jan 2016 and 31 Jan 2018 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 5 of 5 First Previous Next Last Return to query menuCleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s SPD Smith (AUS) 2016-2018 22 39 6 2467 239 74.75 4568 54.00 10 9 1 266 7 V Kohli (INDIA) 2016-2018 25 40 4 2560 243 71.11 3875 66.06 10 4 2 266 8 CA Pujara (INDIA) 2016-2018 25 40 2 2076 202 54.63 4552 45.60 7 10 2 237 4 JE Root (ENG) 2016-2018 26 47 2 2295 254 51.00 3860 59.45 4 18 1 276 2 AN Cook (ENG) 2016-2018 26 49 4 2041 244* 45.35 4016 50.82 4 8 0 240 1 Also look at the number of matches - View overall figures [change view] Start of match date greater than or equal to 31 Jan 2020 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 1500 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 1 of 1 First Previous Next Last Return to query menuCleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s JE Root (ENG) 2020-2022 29 55 6 2793 228 57.00 4876 57.28 10 7 3 297 6 Bit longer but this was actual peak of both Smith and Kohli. Scored majority of their hundreds in this phase (from australia series 2014 to last quarter of 2019) Link to comment
Stan AF Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 11 hours ago, R!TTER said: Really you forgot SS or Kohli himself? View overall figures [change view] Start of match date between 31 Jan 2016 and 31 Jan 2018 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 5 of 5 First Previous Next Last Return to query menuCleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s SPD Smith (AUS) 2016-2018 22 39 6 2467 239 74.75 4568 54.00 10 9 1 266 7 V Kohli (INDIA) 2016-2018 25 40 4 2560 243 71.11 3875 66.06 10 4 2 266 8 CA Pujara (INDIA) 2016-2018 25 40 2 2076 202 54.63 4552 45.60 7 10 2 237 4 JE Root (ENG) 2016-2018 26 47 2 2295 254 51.00 3860 59.45 4 18 1 276 2 AN Cook (ENG) 2016-2018 26 49 4 2041 244* 45.35 4016 50.82 4 8 0 240 1 Also look at the number of matches - View overall figures [change view] Start of match date greater than or equal to 31 Jan 2020 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 1500 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 1 of 1 First Previous Next Last Return to query menuCleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s JE Root (ENG) 2020-2022 29 55 6 2793 228 57.00 4876 57.28 10 7 3 297 6 In your post, Steve smith & Kohli 's stats are for 2 years when it is 1.5 years (Jan 2021 - Jul 2022)as of now for Joe Root. Roughly 533 days. In this period he has scored 2,569 runs with 10 Hundreds & 6 fifties. He's yet to play 6 more tests in this calendar year (3 against SA & 3 against Pakistan if i'm not wrong after the T20 WC). If he continues with this form, he will easily beat both of them in this run aggregate. I have huge respect for Steve smith but what joe root is achieving now deserves praise. https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/303669.html?class=1;spanmin1=01+jan+2021;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match Link to comment
Majestic Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Another way of comparing the fab four is based on who has done best against all the major nations :- Vs India - Root/Smith Vs Australia - Kohli Vs England - Smith Vs New Zealand - Smith Vs South Africa - Root/kohli Vs Pakistan - Williamson Vs Sri Lanka - Root Vs Windies - Smith Conclusion :- Smith - 4 Root - 3 Kohli - 2 Williamson - 1 Hence, in Tests , Smith > Root > Kohli > Williamson Stan AF 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Stan AF said: In your post, Steve smith & Kohli 's stats are for 2 years when it is 1.5 years (Jan 2021 - Jul 2022)as of now for Joe Root. Roughly 533 days. In this period he has scored 2,569 runs with 10 Hundreds & 6 fifties. He's yet to play 6 more tests in this calendar year (3 against SA & 3 against Pakistan if i'm not wrong after the T20 WC). If he continues with this form, he will easily beat both of them in this run aggregate. I have huge respect for Steve smith but what joe root is achieving now deserves praise. https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/303669.html?class=1;spanmin1=01+jan+2021;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match Like I said, check the number of matches. Link to comment
Stan AF Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Like I said, check the number of matches. More or less the same. 24/25 matches. And root was carrying the english line up till bairstow joined him in nz series. Link to comment
daryl1985 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Forget more centuries than Kohli. Tendulkar's record number of test runs under threat. I missed peak Tendulkar and Lara, would say Root is the best batsman i have seen. Steve Smith's numbers are better but i think with his unorthodox technique he will decline quicker. Root almost never seems out of tough, scores quickly without taking risks and is now regularly converting 50s to 100s. ABDV was more talented but Root gets more out of his ability. Majestic 1 Link to comment
sage Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 Root in my eyes is the most attractive batsman I've seen since Tendulkar. Smith although better is far too scratchy and awkward and Kohli always lacked the versatility and broader shot selection. Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) Its now insulting to compare Kohli with Root. Root vera level. Edited July 5, 2022 by sensible-indian nevada and Frustrated 2 Link to comment
sage Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 In November 2019, Virat Kohli had 27 Test hundreds and Joe Root had 16. In July 2022, Virat Kohli has 27 Test hundreds and Joe Root has 28. nevada and Forever Indian 2 Link to comment
Frustrated Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 In last 3 years, Loli averages lesser than Trent Boult. And this thread is comparing loli with Root. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 On 7/5/2022 at 4:33 PM, daryl1985 said: Forget more centuries than Kohli. Tendulkar's record number of test runs under threat. I missed peak Tendulkar and Lara, would say Root is the best batsman i have seen. Steve Smith's numbers are better but i think with his unorthodox technique he will decline quicker. Root almost never seems out of tough, scores quickly without taking risks and is now regularly converting 50s to 100s. ABDV was more talented but Root gets more out of his ability. It's not under any threat. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 On 7/5/2022 at 6:11 AM, sensible-indian said: Its now insulting to compare Kohli with Root. Root vera level. Who is Thala who is Thalapathi between them lol Link to comment
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