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Im worried about Pant now


Suhaan

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1 hour ago, Yoda-esque said:

He hits on the up,not conducive to English or NZ conditions.His game is more suited where he can hit square of the wicket.He needs to start playing straight in these conditions.

it is the opposite in england, the mantra to score big runs is  leaving well, playing late and square of the wicket on the offside. If you look to keep driving you will get out sooner or later. Rahul in the first 2 tests, Root and Conway all typify this. Even Sehwag mentioned it. The problem is this team's poster boy is severely lacking in that department and has probably tinkered with something that didn't need tinkering ie Pant's technique.

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4 hours ago, Yoda-esque said:

He hits on the up,not conducive to English or NZ conditions.His game is more suited where he can hit square of the wicket.He needs to start playing straight in these conditions.

Dude england is the worst place to play straight. You need to play as late as possible to cover swing, so you would look to play more square and behind the wicket to succeed. However as you said, you cannot hit on the up, you have to wait and play softer and not go hard

 

 

 

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Pant is in real danger of going in a slump now. 1 50 in last 12 innings, has been found wanting in challenging conditions and hasn't found a way after 7 tests in Eng and SA. A non performing middle order hasn't helped but his own choice of shots to get out has been disappointing. Looks in control and then gets out after a start.

 

What can Dravid do to get him back on track?

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Just now, ShoonyaSifar said:

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Pant is in real danger of going in a slump now. 1 50 in last 12 innings, has been found wanting in challenging conditions and hasn't found a way after 7 tests in Eng and SA. A non performing middle order hasn't helped but his own choice of shots to get out has been disappointing. Looks in control and then gets out after a start.

 

What can Dravid do to get him back on track?

Tell him to focus on deciding what balls to hit, and what balls to avoid. It may seem oversimplified, but a lot of Pant's problems come from this issue. There are some technical glitches to fix, but the major issue is shot selection. One thing he was doing at his peak (i.e., from debut until 2020 Eng tour of India) was showing patience, getting behind the line of the ball, choosing what bowlers to attack and when, etc.

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39 minutes ago, Vijy said:

Tell him to focus on deciding what balls to hit, and what balls to avoid. It may seem oversimplified, but a lot of Pant's problems come from this issue. There are some technical glitches to fix, but the major issue is shot selection. One thing he was doing at his peak (i.e., from debut until 2020 Eng tour of India) was showing patience, getting behind the line of the ball, choosing what bowlers to attack and when, etc.

Yes,he doesn't seem to decide when to attack/which to attack

And has a problem in strike rotation as well, Infact not only him,the whole psych of this batting side is cowardice,they get stuck in a shell where people like Pant only see some slogs to get away with it,often they find themselves back in the pavilion without much contribution

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Pant is a static player with not a lot of feet movement. Only time he moves his feet is when he tries to attack by dancing down. Otherwise weight distribution is poor. He stands and slashes or drives with very little feet movement. So his game is fraught with risks. In every match he scores he takes chances.  In the matches that chances come off he looks great. In other matches they don't come off.  Almost 80% of the time he gets out when he shows intent. He has to strike a balance. Also has to spend time at the crease. 

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17 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Yes,he doesn't seem to decide when to attack/which to attack

And has a problem in strike rotation as well, Infact not only him,the whole psych of this batting side is cowardice,they get stuck in a shell where people like Pant only see some slogs to get away with it,often they find themselves back in the pavilion without much contribution

yes, he blocks too much and then gets pressured/loses concentration and proceeds to attack a good/decent ball with the wrong shot selection, thereupon falling quickly. In addition, he should work on some technical aspects and fitness too. With respect to the former, his backlift, lack of feet movement, etc. can be improved.

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2 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Yes,he doesn't seem to decide when to attack/which to attack

And has a problem in strike rotation as well, Infact not only him,the whole psych of this batting side is cowardice,they get stuck in a shell where people like Pant only see some slogs to get away with it,often they find themselves back in the pavilion without much contribution

 

It all starts with Pujara and the 3 in 33 balls........ Rahane and Vihari types are not much better. Some people accelarate after a slow start. Pujara - well.... whatever. He is what he is.

 

However Pant needs to play each ball on merit and not try to compensate for the rest of the team. That is fatal. 

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1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Pant does not have what we call is a middle game.He is either launching willy nilly shots or just blocking.I don't think he has technique to play late to cover for the movement on these wickets either.

Historically, if one excludes the green mambas that NZ give us, I'd say that SA is one of the hardest places to rack up big scores. And Pant's batting style is not well-suited for these tracks. We will just need to live with the fact that no keeper-batsman can perform equally well everywhere (e.g., Dhoni in Oz and Gilly in Ind): what he does need to do is maintain his performance in Oz/home, improve record in Eng and potentially NZ. I have a feeling that he cannot easily average more than about 25 in SA.

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1 hour ago, Vk1 said:

they should drop Pant before dropping Pujara or Rahane.. it will be hilariously tragic :phehe:

Yeah , anticipating few statements in upcoming pressers about him and showcasing how brutal is TM's approach when it comes to callousness in batting

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