rkt.india Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 8 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: the only they overdid with spinners is 2 left arm spinners.....one shudnt have been their instead they shud have gone for a seamer or thakur They gave them every kind of options n thats how it shud. Their shudnt be a fixed bowling lineup in t20..............study matchups, opposition , condition n play bowling attack acc too it Selection of every kind of spinner is job well done. Now TM doesnt want study matchups n play with one fixed formula they havent evolved . Ashwin/Rahul Ashwin/Varun. C Rahul/Varun.c One among all in some games or add the left armer in some n play 3 So much to play with When you have so many players to select, you mostly end up with bad selection Link to comment
SRT100 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, Cricspin said: Yeah we could have a second team easily. The second team can win some games too. I would replace Pandey with Mayank Agarwal. He played a gr8 captains innings this IPL. There is Prasidh and Siraj as well who have not been picked. Shaw Dhawan Padikkal Samson (WK) Mayank Agarwal N Rana Krunal Pandya Tewatia/Sundar Prasidh Siraj Avesh Rest of the Squad - M Pandey, Natarajan, Chahal The second team would even be stronger if you include any player not picked for the Indian first XI Meaning that Kishan, Axar, Ashwin, Thakur would make this side and improve it even further. Cricspin 1 Link to comment
urbestfriend Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 I hope they dont open with Rohit and Rahul, and Kohli at 3..That is a disaster when we score 60 runs in first 10 overs and leave the finishing tasks to the MO..Rohit,Kohli opening and Ishan Kishan at 3 is much better. express bowling and adi B 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: When you have so many players to select, you mostly end up with bad selection Why ?? If you follow matchups its easy. Ipl sides carry 18-25 players with every option avl . Either u follow matchup or go on instinct which i think only dhoni doesnt in IPL now rest all follow matchups. Actually dhoni also does now, he neways always carries a lot of bowling options. Team that do mess either choose to ignore it or are in state of panic. For eg U can drop ashwin against pak coz hafeez n azam can play him well and they dnt have much leftie options. U can drop rahul chahar against wi coz they have 4 lefties in lineup n all handle him well. Finding right matchup for simmons will be important. With varun need to see how many batsman of a side has played him in IPL n how they have played him. Abu dhabi last season offered good asst to pacer so three seamers may work better their. Edited September 9, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03 Norman 1 Link to comment
deepdynamo Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 The only missing chink in the playing XI is lack of batting at No. 8. The first 7 are locked in Rohit Kohli Sky Rahul Pant/Kishan Pandya Jadeja The problem lies from hereon. Since we don't have Thakur and Deepak Chahar, we don't have anybody who can bat with high strikerate( apart from Axar who is a backup to Jadeja and unlikely to play) So 8-11 would be 2 of Rahul Chahr, Ashwin, Varun 2 of Bumrah, Bhuvi, Shami Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, deepdynamo said: The only missing chink in the playing XI is lack of batting at No. 8. The first 7 are locked in Rohit Kohli Sky Rahul Pant/Kishan Pandya Jadeja The biggest issue is no proper backups for No.6 and No.7. What will happen if Hardik gets injured ? We will have to play with just 5 bowling options then. Even Axar can't real replace an injured Jadeja as he is more of a No.8 batter. And not choosing either Shardul or Deepak is a big blunder. Edited September 9, 2021 by express bowling Link to comment
deepdynamo Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 12 hours ago, express bowling said: The biggest issue is no proper backups for No.6 and No.7. What will happen if Hardik gets injured ? We will have to play with just 5 bowling options then. Even Axar can't real replace an injured Jadeja as he is more of a No.8 batter. And not choosing either Shardul or Hardik is a big blunder. I believe Shardul will travel with the team so if Hardik get injured midway, Shardul will step in. But yes, Jadeja at no. 7 and then 4 bowlers doesn't inspire that much confidence if batting has an off day. Consider a hypothetical situation of India need 35 from 20 balls with Jadeja and Rahul Chahar on crease. We will lose from that position. Add Shardul in there and now the odds will be of winning. I see lack of firepower in lower order a real concern. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 49 minutes ago, express bowling said: The biggest issue is no proper backups for No.6 and No.7. What will happen if Hardik gets injured ? We will have to play with just 5 bowling options then. Even Axar can't real replace an injured Jadeja as he is more of a No.8 batter. And not choosing either Shardul or Deepak is a big blunder. Shardul and Deepak are there standbys in case of injury. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Why ?? If you follow matchups its easy. Ipl sides carry 18-25 players with every option avl . Either u follow matchup or go on instinct which i think only dhoni doesnt in IPL now rest all follow matchups. Actually dhoni also does now, he neways always carries a lot of bowling options. Team that do mess either choose to ignore it or are in state of panic. For eg U can drop ashwin against pak coz hafeez n azam can play him well and they dnt have much leftie options. U can drop rahul chahar against wi coz they have 4 lefties in lineup n all handle him well. Finding right matchup for simmons will be important. With varun need to see how many batsman of a side has played him in IPL n how they have played him. Abu dhabi last season offered good asst to pacer so three seamers may work better their. Chakravarty and Axar were not required if you have Ashwin and Jaddu. They could have been in standby. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 50 minutes ago, express bowling said: The biggest issue is no proper backups for No.6 and No.7. What will happen if Hardik gets injured ? We will have to play with just 5 bowling options then. Even Axar can't real replace an injured Jadeja as he is more of a No.8 batter. And not choosing either Shardul or Deepak is a big blunder. Shardul & Deepak both are in reserves.. So If anyone gets injured they will be straightaway in. I'd have preferred Shardul over Bhuvi as he provides much better option in Batting but seems like they will go with Axar at 8 vs Pakistan. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Team vs Pakistan bar Injury. Rohit Rahul Kohli Surya Pant Pandya Jadeja Axar Rahul Chahar Bhuvi Bumrah. Pakistan has no left hand batsman in top 4 & left arm spinner will be handy over a offie. We have enough depth in batting to play aggressively. Lord 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 49 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Chakravarty and Axar were not required if you have Ashwin and Jaddu. They could have been in standby. Axar wasnt Chakavorty isnt a similar bowler to anyone, any bowler who adds variety to attack is needed ...specially who can be an X factor Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 47 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Team vs Pakistan bar Injury. Rohit Rahul Kohli Surya Pant Pandya Jadeja Axar Rahul Chahar Bhuvi Bumrah. Pakistan has no left hand batsman in top 4 & left arm spinner will be handy over a offie. We have enough depth in batting to play aggressively. yea we shud play a leggie n jaddu/axar 2 left arm spinner wud be too much , doesnt mean they dont know how to play spin Hafeez, Azam play spin very well ...................3 seamers + pandya + jaddu/ash + rahul or 1 seamer less n Varun. C Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 hour ago, express bowling said: The biggest issue is no proper backups for No.6 and No.7. sky , kishen, pant cant bat their jadeja n Axar will be choices at 7 1 hour ago, express bowling said: What will happen if Hardik gets injured ? We will have to play with just 5 bowling options then. Even Axar can't real replace an injured Jadeja as he is more of a No.8 batter. Thakur will go in main squad from reserve Their is anyways no replacement of hardik in whole country Tewatia was one who shud have been tried for no.7 , they didnt Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: yea we shud play a leggie n jaddu/axar 2 left arm spinner wud be too much , doesnt mean they dont know how to play spin Hafeez, Azam play spin very well ...................3 seamers + pandya + jaddu/ash + rahul or 1 seamer less n Varun. C I'll open with Axar vs Babar & Rizwan as both like pace on the ball. Axar has one of the best economy rates in PP. If he puts pressure or gets them out.. It's over for Pak. New guy 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 hour ago, deepdynamo said: I believe Shardul will travel with the team so if Hardik get injured midway, Shardul will step in. But yes, Jadeja at no. 7 and then 4 bowlers doesn't inspire that much confidence if batting has an off day. Consider a hypothetical situation of India need 35 from 20 balls with Jadeja and Rahul Chahar on crease. We will lose from that position. Add Shardul in there and now the odds will be of winning. I see lack of firepower in lower order a real concern. 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Shardul and Deepak are there standbys in case of injury. 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: Shardul & Deepak both are in reserves.. So If anyone gets injured they will be straightaway in. I'd have preferred Shardul over Bhuvi as he provides much better option in Batting but seems like they will go with Axar at 8 vs Pakistan. If Hardik is injured and Shardul replaces him then it will be 6. Jaddu 7. Shardul 8. Ashwin / Axar And this will be a poor lower-middle order. Link to comment
Bigg Brother Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Amazing after 5 and half years since last Wt20, Our bowling attack is more or less same as we played in 2016. Bumrah,Bhuvi,Jaddu,Ashwin,Pandya. Chahal-Kuldeep got only 1 ICC tournament to play- 2019 WC.. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, express bowling said: If Hardik is injured and Shardul replaces him then it will be 6. Jaddu 7. Shardul 8. Ashwin / Axar And this will be a poor lower-middle order. It will be okayish.. It's not that we have world beaters outside. These are pretty much the lower middle order batting options in reserve bar Sundar. In T20 cricket I think it won't matter that much. Rohit Rahul Kohli Surya alone would play 13-14 overs by themselves. Edited September 9, 2021 by Lone Wolf Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 38 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: I'll open with Axar vs Babar & Rizwan as both like pace on the ball. Axar has one of the best economy rates in PP. If he puts pressure or gets them out.. It's over for Pak. yea we shud open with spin against babar. Babar is like kohli against spin. Link to comment
The Realist Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Aakash Chopra almost in tears on a Cricinfo video that Chahal not been picked "2nd best legspinner in the world" Seriously... New guy, Lone Wolf and Lord 3 Link to comment
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