mishra Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 ^ Time is ripe to take such call. I am sure mentor team India will make it. If kohli is not happy, he can retire from white ball cricket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi B Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Jaiswal and gill look the best bet of the lot. I don't believe Ruturaj,Devdutt and Shaw have the all round game till now Chakdephatte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cricspin said: Shaw, Ruturaj, Iyer, DDP for ODI and T20I Gill for Tests. Overall for all formats like Shaw, DDP and Iyer. I don't see how Gill fits Shorter formats for the next few years atleast. Not seen enough of Ruturaj yet. Iyer seems mentally very stable but he lacks that polish in his batting technique. There are glaring weaknesses in his batting which will be easily exploited by International bowlers. He is not there at all. Edited October 14, 2021 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollingstoned Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 i think out of them all shaw has the highest ceiling but he needs to keep working on his game like the VHT after he got dropped in Australia. Gaekwad seems to have the best temperament imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Gill test and one day. Shaw T20. Ruturaj ODIs, T20s. Need to watch more of Jaiswal and Padikkal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Jaiswal>Gill>Shaw>>>>>>Paddikal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ruturaj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Regardless of the IPL, Gill is a different level batsman. Just that he has not fully realized his potential. With a few minor adjustments he is going to be far and ahead of everyone. But a lot of hard work has is needed. But his base game is good. Rituraj in shorter formats and later on in longer formats can come good. Chakdephatte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chakdephatte Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Rituraj in shorter formats and later on in longer formats can come good. Ruturaj Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Adamant said: Jaiswal>Gill>Shaw>>>>>>Paddikal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ruturaj. Does the Orange Cap not count for anything? Cricspin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Mariyam said: Does the Orange Cap not count for anything? It definitely does, it explains that at this moment Ruturaj has developed a vetter understanding of his game particularly in t20is but that's about it. The others are way younger than him and three of them (Jaiswal, Shaw and Gill) are teenage prodigies. Two of them are already knocking on the team's door for test selection. In the coming years they will definitely iron out their deficiencies and due to their way higher ceiling it will be very hard for Ruturaj to compete with any of them. Chakdephatte and Mariyam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalvirsingh Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 On 10/14/2021 at 11:08 AM, Majestic said: Who is the best Indian batting prospect across all formats among the mentioned names- Shubhman Gill Prithvi Shaw Ruturaj Gaekwad Devdutt Paddikal Yashasvi Jaiswal Discuss! All are phenomenal but if i have to pick in my team Gill = Prithvi shaw at the tops, and both are the best. Yashaswi jaiswal is the youngest and is growing very fast so I will rank him at no 2. ruturaj as no 3....i am not too Impressed with him. paddikkal is a bit weak batsman....not my favourite. Gill , Prithvi, and Yashaswi look really good. Prithvi cannot face bouncers very well so if i am forced to pick one amng prithvi or gill..may be 1 point , gill may go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgattick10 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 This IPL .. Iyer > Gaikwad > Shaw > Jaiswal > Gill > DDP Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 On 10/14/2021 at 2:58 PM, express bowling said: Venkatesh stands straight and plays fuller balls. There is no front press. On quicker pitches or if the ball is swinging, he might edge the ball a bit too often and get caught behind. Also Gavaskar did point out today he doesnt go much on bsckfoot so he ll be tested on short stuff in future. Thats why im keen to see him next season, at this point he doesnt convince me. Sadly in IPl he ll mostly open but in indian team if he gets in role wud be 6-7 , so we have no idea about his pros n cons in that position. Its a completey diff ball game on those slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prudent_kreeda Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Somehow many ICFers seem to not really appreciate and rate Gaikwad in short format (50 overs & 20 Overs). When evaluating the younger bats (Gaikwad, Shaw,DDP, Samson, Jaiswal, Gill, Eshaan ) Feel 1. Game Maturity - He is most improved in last 2 season. Tops all others (Top 2 - Gaikwad & Gill) 2. Range of shots with Less risks- Plays pacers pretty well both front foot as well back foot. Fine timer of the ball , Plays Pull well , timer of ball, among top player of spin .in the listed lot , only Ishan may be equal but with more risky shots . (Top 2 - Gaikwad , Gill & DDP ) 3. Consistency - Has the game to be the top 2 consistent player among the list and right now looks the top among them - ( Gaikwad , Gill ). 4. Fielding - Again only DDP looks better than him in field. (Top 3- DDP, Gaikwad, Ishan) 5. Strike rate - Looks among top 3 with higher strike rate but when you combine consistency with strike rate , he is top draw among the list. Shaw , Samson , Ishhan may strike at a better strike rate but way too inconsistent . Too many of such flashy players won't help in making of a formidable side. ( Top Strike rate -Shaw, Ishan, Gaikwad But higher strike rate with Consistency - Gaikwad tops) 6. Maintain Tempo past initial overs - Does not drop tempo past initial over part of innings . 7. Timer of ball PLUS finding gaps - Looks the best among the lot in this aspect. 8. Hitting over the top consistently in middle overs - Again looks among top 3 . Thus overall at this moment he has no apparent weakness for short format game , No pre meditated shots , good vs spin as well pace , fine timer with ability to find gaps and looks ready compared to others to be inducted while others seem to have some issues - Gill has a limitation of strike rate and has not looked like playing big vs spinners so far though has that ability to play spin well . Cannot be in T20 , Only for 50 overs . -Samson - Poor against spinners . - Ishan - Not yet convinced vs High Pace and inconsistent . - Shaw - Most teams can plot with change of pace and rising deliveries - Has best attacking ability but inconsistent . - DDP - Issue with strike rate and needs more improvement is overall game . - jaiswal - Needs a season or 2 Get a feeling Ruturaj & Jaiswal would be 2 guys who will work harder than others and raise their game . Do not get that feeling with Shaw, Samson . He should be the first guy among the lot to be part of team post T20WC in shorter format among batters. DO not go by some WOW strokes of others but check out strike rate with consistency to be a top notch member of a side. Thats the potential of this man and he needs to be backed fully and all the way. Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) Iyer. Calling it now. Edited October 17, 2021 by flamy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 gill, gaekwad, padikkal are good prospects while shaw's technique is a bit dodgy and jaiswal I havent watched. I believe most of them will thrive under MI or CSK. Both have good management and good captains and coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rantzz Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Let’s see if Rutu can keep up next season when even more pressure since he will likely be retained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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