SK_IH Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: are u serious 400 runs for a 6-7 spot player seems avg ............ru kiddng me no all rounder will have value with both every time Remember russell, last season struggling with bat but value with ball yea n the basis is rustiness . Rather seeing thing as black n white better understand reason every cricketer will have a phase where his some problem will be found - his case + injury . Regress kiya hota to do saal men 47 ka avg na hota , ab u dnt want consider that then problem ur blind dismissaL Indian cricket is rich enough to not carry on with his rusty batting & bowling, he can take that average of 47 in last two years & improve on that for Baroda. Indian cricket deserve other players who are more focused & hungry for success than this show pony Lone Wolf and raki05 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Just now, sandeep said: Secondly, setting that aside, how does one speculate and make claims about a players work ethic and motivation, without really any basis? i hve same question, i guess they sit n have daaru chakhna with them and we dont sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: i hve same question, i guess they sit n have daaru chakhna with them and we dont Honestly, Austin is a quality poster, and I'm quite surprised to see such nonsense from him. Its one thing to dislike a player, or consider him not good enough for selection etc. Quite another to make silly assumptions about his work ethic - purely based on tattoos and appearances. Quite immature really. But that's an Indian stereotype right - we do like to judge books by the cover. And harbor negative biases against less educated folks who like to be "flashy". Even if none of that has any fact-based bearing whatsoever on their work ethic or performances. Chakdephatte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 Just now, sandeep said: First off, the numbers don't agree with this assertion. Secondly, setting that aside, how does one speculate and make claims about a players work ethic and motivation, without really any basis? Results don't always reflect the work put in. yes maybe personal attacks are unwarranted but I think the frustration comes from the fact that there is lack of clarity. You are either fit or unfit. It’s binary. Hardik is an allrounder. He is in the team for that. If he can’t do one of his 2 skills that reduces his utility. Now if TM believes that he is valuable alone as a batsman, they are still taking punt on someone who is half-fit. Is talent depth in India so low that we have to carry a player who is half-fit? Now next point coming to batting, I have never seen either MI or team india having enough faith or whatever the reason not using his batting for more than 4 overs. Especially in the last couple of years. He might be the best every power hitter in the history of the universe but that’s a thankless job, it’s at best 50-50 situation for anyone. You can’t play 30(12) ball type innings everyday. It’s impossible. Then the expectation is you will contribute other ways. Recently he hasn’t even taken the field on a few occasions indicating there is a niggle. There is no doubt Pandya works hard. You can’t have that chiseled physique without hard work but it’s not been translating on field . More than Pandya’s form,ability or lack of it, his presence on current fitness (keyword) is messing up the balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putrevus Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 There is a reason why this is happening.Pandya has failed to evolve as a player.I know he is injured now but he needed to either become a batsman who could bowl or bowler who could bat. Do we know for sure what exactly Pandya is as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 each IPL team can retain max 3 Indians + 1 foreigner... most probably MI will retain Rohit, Bumrah, Pollard & Pandya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 If SDP enters auctions, he could create a new bid record Austin 3:!6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeelaraja Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Good...will come back to ground. He was very contempt with his life due to Ambani and stopped working hard. Maybe this will help him to get back his mojo. A talent like Pandya should be regular in test cricket but he wasted his own career. 1 hour ago, sandeep said: Just what exactly is this based on? @Austin 3:!6 makes a fair point. Pandya always give the impression of being another Vinod Kambli attitude wise ( new money and fame getting the better of him ). Hardik's mannerisms around the MI dressing room far from being professional and intense are of someone who thinks that -- Ambani gujju, main bhi gujju, mera bhai Krunal bhi yahan, Sachin ka mere sar pe haath he, aur Sachin hamesha Ambani ke saath hi hai - matlab MI is my maika. This attitude does not fly. Perform or perish. @sandeep - you are being a little rude here, if you want to act oversmart, you can go now - I am saying it openly here. Edited October 28, 2021 by rangeelaraja Sunil_narine024, Austin 3:!6 and maniac 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruiser Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Players have to agree to be retained. May be Pandu wants to get released and become an Icon player for Amdavad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl_out Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Pandya has been a star from 2016-2020, but bang average in recent times after his injury. Tough decision for MI to choose one of Kishan /SKY /Pandya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFever Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 If 4th retention is allowed, MI will definitely go for Kishan over Pandya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try_Ball Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Krunal Pandya planning for his future - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoonyaSifar Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 If Hardik goes into the Auction pool, he will be snapped up by one of the two new franchises before the auctions. Even otherwise, with no right to match cards this time, MI will find it difficult to get him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try_Ball Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 With Mumbai Indians still looking to have either Quinton or Ishan in the system and have an explosive batsman/wk combo in the team - They would be the priority over Hardik after Rohit , Bumrah and Pollard and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 6 hours ago, RedFever said: If 4th retention is allowed, MI will definitely go for Kishan over Pandya Yep .. max 3 Indians can be retained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raki05 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) I am sure he can create bidding war but than Negi, Unadkat and pandey also did on several occasion. Reality is in 5 years since his debut his performance is ghanta, heck he dint even play consistently in those 5 years. He is bigger scam than Harshad Mehta most overhyped fake alrounder. He keep skiping icc tournaments and test cricket and scoring here and there in ipl or biletral series to keep his disciples and fan girl happy. Edited October 29, 2021 by raki05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 What a fraud. Will still support him but he has regressed bad. Good luck. raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevada Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Maybe MI have put out this news to fire him up and make him rediscover his form. They can then keep him without any concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 MI could still retain him based on bids right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 39 minutes ago, Clarke said: MI could still retain him based on bids right ? The two new teams get first choice. Rest can only bid after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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